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Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:29 AM

My mother used to call it manners

I'm getting old (66 this year), but we didn't have political correctness when I was growing up. It was called basic manners. You didn't say mean things about people's skin color. You didn't say bad things about religion. You didn't know or want to know what they did in the privacy of their homes. It was simply none of your business, so keep your mouth shut. Now, in an over-reaction to what they deem "political correctness" Trump's followers are emboldened to say any damn thing that pops into their decaying heads. My mom would say they don't have any manners. And she'd be right.

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Reply My mother used to call it manners (Original post)
CanonRay Feb 2017 OP
randr Feb 2017 #1
underpants Feb 2017 #2
SharonAnn Feb 2017 #9
luvMIdog Feb 2017 #3
deurbano Feb 2017 #14
thbobby Feb 2017 #4
Grammy23 Feb 2017 #17
yardwork Feb 2017 #5
TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #26
lostnfound Feb 2017 #6
Buckeyeblue Feb 2017 #7
dinger130 Feb 2017 #8
underpants Feb 2017 #11
Ligyron Feb 2017 #10
wildeyed Feb 2017 #12
They_Live Feb 2017 #13
Maynar Feb 2017 #15
liberalmuse Feb 2017 #16
gvstn Feb 2017 #18
IndianaDave Feb 2017 #19
narnian60 Feb 2017 #28
Mister Ed Feb 2017 #20
Warpy Feb 2017 #21
HopeAgain Feb 2017 #22
Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #23
Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #24
appleannie1943 Feb 2017 #25
Initech Feb 2017 #27

Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:39 AM

1. Lack of common decency--Deplorable

And they are proud of the title making them---just can't think of any word for it, seriously at a loss for words.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:40 AM

2. I agree completely and say this all the time

When someone mockingly or dismissively says "oh that's just PC" I point out that it's simply manners. If someone says something is offensive to them you should take that into account. You can still say what you want in your own home or in certain settings but in front of them you now know that saying that costs you in some shape or form. They're not telling you what you can say.

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Response to underpants (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:01 AM

9. And I add "respect and courtesy" in case people think "manners" is too high-faluting

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:47 AM

3. And the same morons make a huge deal out of who says 'Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Holidays '

every year they have a melt down about people saying 'Happy Holidays' . What they really mean is that they miss the days when people used the N word and they want those days brought back.

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Response to luvMIdog (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:00 AM

14. Exactly.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:47 AM

4. My grandmother's wisdom

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
We can and should disagree sometimes, but civility is just part of human decency.

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Response to thbobby (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:18 AM

17. Another saying..."Mind your own knitting"

Which is another way of saying, "Mind your own business." Unless you know there is abuse going on, you need to stay out of other people's lives. But somehow people think they have a right to meddle around in other people's lives, bedrooms, political choices, etc.

Discussing religion, politics or even the latest dietary fad is fraught with land mines. It seems that anger is frequently the go to emotion associated with certain topics, so we find ourselves having to avoid those topics. The notion of old fashioned debate is dead. Watching the political debates last fall demonstrated that clearly. Forget facts and ideas. Zingers that snap and designed to hurt are what it has come to. 😢

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:50 AM

5. Very good point. I'm going to say this when the PC thing comes up.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:26 PM

26. Yeah, "politically correct" is still correct n/t

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:51 AM

6. Kindness is the most important value. Nt

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:54 AM

7. I think it was Vonnegut who wrote

In one of his novels, Vonnegut had the line, "Enough about love, how about some common decency..."

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:55 AM

8. My 96 year old mother

says Trump's mouth looks like the hind end of a duck.

So much for politeness and manners around here.

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Response to dinger130 (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:12 AM

11. Same output too

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:04 AM

10. Trump himself has no filter at all.

Often to the embarrassment of his spin meisters. While his deplorables love it, it will one day contribute significantly to his downfall.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:14 AM

12. Yes, basic manners and MYOB goes a long way toward making life smoother for all.

Dunno why that is so difficult and upsetting for them.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:34 AM

13. Remember when public figures used to try to

"set an example" of how to behave?

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Response to They_Live (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:06 AM

15. Vaguely.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:08 AM

16. Exactly!

Manners. Common decency. Being kind.

Filtering all the crap that we call "thoughts" and then selectively tossing out the bullshit and meanness before we express them instead of allowing our mouths to function as a second asshole is actually a good thing, ya know?

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:27 AM

18. Exactly.

When someone says something about "the" Jews, I'm like how would I know who is Jewish or care about it. That is their religion and none of my business. We were taught not to divide people into classes/groups whether by skin color, religion or politics (my mom was somewhat prejudiced against fat people and poorer than us people, so not perfect). You take what you get but manners still go a long way.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:44 AM

19. I absolutely agree, but the most bizarre aspect of this

is that Trump DEMANDS that everyone be extremely sensitive and nice to him, and the people who follow him are adamant that no one may say anything negative about him. On one hand, they are comfortable saying the most insulting and hostile things about others, but they are outrageously protective of Trump. I understand that multiple personalities probably do not exist, according to reputable mental health experts, but they may need to identify a new personality disorder for Trump and his supporters.

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Response to IndianaDave (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:25 AM

28. +1

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:11 PM

20. Thank you. Those have long been my thoughts as well. n/t

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 05:36 PM

21. My mother's worst insult was "vulgar."

it's what most other people call "common." Anything from chewing gum in public to trying to talk sex, religion or politics in polite company to using pejoratives against people you didn't know was vulgar.

My mother would be appalled by right wingers today, going far beyond disagreeing with them into pronouncing them all vulgar beyond endurance. I'd agree with her, too.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 05:38 PM

22. Things are either correct or incorrect

"Politically incorrect" is whst you call it when you know it's wrong

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 05:43 PM

23. Let's not romanticize the supposed "good old days" too much, eh?

100 years ago, Lynchings were considered weekend entertainment.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:02 PM

24. Yes, just common social courtesies - being polite and nice

Saying please and thank you, holding the door open for someone - it's like they are rebelling against the things that kindergarteners are taught. Makes me regard them as bratty kids acting out.

Time for some remedial lessons in manners!

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:07 PM

25. I have said the same thing about "you have to say Merry Christmas and not Happy Holidays".

If you don't know what religion a person is, it is only good manners to tell them "Happy Holidays". Many religions have holidays within a months time and New Years if they don't. You cover all bases with Happy Holidays. If you know someone's religion you can say Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah or whatever. It doesn't have a thing to do with political correctness, it has to do with manners.

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Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:52 PM

27. What's really sad is that Trump and his fans...

Are rude, disgusting, obnoxious assholes who are completely proud of the fact that they're rude, disgusting, obnoxious assholes. They wear their white power on their sleeves and drink out of their "liberal tears" coffee mugs and wear Trump t-shirts. And they loot, destroy, pillage and leave swastika graffiti and think it's funny, while warning they need to watch out for the (non existent) "violent left". They've been treating us like complete shit since the election. I've never seen such horrible, despicable winners in my life. In professional sports, if you win, you shake the other guy's hand and move on. You don't pour salt in the wound like the Trump fans are doing. If there is a hell, I hope there's a special circle reserved just for them.

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