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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Young Turks Network Raises $4 Million From Former Republican Presidential Candidate
he Young Turks Network has just announced $4 million in new funding from an unlikely source: former Louisiana Governor and 2012 Republican presidential candidate Buddy Roemer. The seed money, which includes an option to go up to $8 million, came from the politicians private equity fund Roemer, Robinson, Melville & Co., LLC.
Cenk Uygur, who hosts the networks flagship The Young Turks (billed as the largest online news show in the world) and founded TYT Network, previously served as a contributor for MSNBC and is generally seen to have a liberal bent to his politics, though his views can also err on the libertarian side of the spectrum.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/the-young-turks-network-raises-4-million-from-former-republican-presidential-candidate/
Far be it from me to question such a "pure" Democrat but he's now looking to primary safe Democrats. NOT fighting republicans. And who is he getting money from? Someone who benefits from a divided Democratic party. Fuck this.
NewJeffCT
(56,840 posts)and the House & Senate first before we start with primarying incumbent Democrats?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)the funding comes from. It usually explains everything.
JaneQPublic
(7,117 posts)He's spent his entire adulthood bashing Dems, only in recent years i'ts been from the left instead of the right, so he gets away with it.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)TYT helped 45 get elected IMO.
BainsBane
(54,817 posts)Cha
(305,622 posts)ecstatic
(34,444 posts)at MSNBC.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)is one of my heroes.
StubbornThings
(259 posts)I have no use for anyone that has no use for Cenk.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)move on with my life.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)are you sure you will be ok?
LOL and
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I noticed that also. Anyone who isn't interested in making the Democratic stronger isn't worth my time. That's why this website was created.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)on and on. Geniuses all. And good Progressive DEMs. The best of the best. I will never understand why you guys think it is cool to demand 100% purity. We don't eat our own. We are inclusive. We are not the crazy Republicans.
Who are your heroes...Hillary, Hillary, and Hillary?
StubbornThings
(259 posts)Eko
(8,550 posts)wouldn't Cenk's push to primary dems be "eating our own"?
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)Ron Kind, who just voted to give guns to crazy people. Or Allison 3 names from KY...who played possum RE: did you vote or Obama? While toting her firearm. There are some shitty DINOS in office.
We don't elect Cenk. Or pay him. He does not make laws FOR US. There is a difference.
Eko
(8,550 posts)but its ok if its the ones you don't like and you listed Sanders and Warren so the not elected thing doesn't work. I wonder who said this? " I will never understand why you guys think it is cool to demand 100% purity. We don't eat our own. We are inclusive." I miss that person.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"I will never understand why you guys think it is cool to demand 100% purity. We don't eat our own..."
Followed quickly by your above list of people who do not meet standards of purity.
You hold others to a higher standard than you hold yourself. No doubt, many "have no use for that" either.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)I'm sorry, I cannot make any sense out of what you just wrote. I really can't. Please explain. I listed 2 public servants who do not meet Progressive Dem standards regarding GUNS. I call them DINOs. 14 little kids slaughtered at Sandy Hook and my Rep votes with the Rs to give guns to crazy people last week. He certainly does not meet my standards.
And once again, elected officials paid by us are different than pundits. CENK is a pundit, and a brilliant one.
Cha
(305,622 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Yeah, I don't pay much attention to Cenk any longer.
People thought that Ed Schultz was a true progressive too ..... I had friends who LOVED Big Eddie. I used to watch him when he was on Air America years ago, then followed him onto MSNBC. But in the back of my mind, something about Ed never set right with me. Friends kept saying, NO you're wrong, Ed is the MAN. I said, okay...Whatever.
But here we are in 2017...
Ed Schultz hits a new low at CPAC.
It wasnt entirely surprising that the former progressive talk radio host and MSNBC personality agreed to speak at annual conservative conference this year. Once a self-styled prairie populist, he signed on last January with RT America, where he anchors the nightly news for the state-run Russian network. Hes changed his tone on President Vladimir Putin, whom he used to deride as Putie. Schultz, who once said on MSNBC that Putin is crippling his country, now has a Russo-friendly, or perhaps American-skeptical, viewpoint on any number of issues, The Washington Post reported in December.
Schultz has done an about-face on Trump, too. After calling him a racist and ridiculing his presidential ambitions in 2011, he praised Trumps political skills during the campaign and downplayed Russias role in his election. Still, none of that quite compares to the praise Schultz heaped on the president on Thursday, talking with reporters on CPACs radio row. I think hes pragmatic, and I think he wants to winhe wants to win for the little guy, Schultz said.
Schultz predicted Trump will go with the people on healthcare, speculating that the president might slow Republican efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and criticized Democrats opposition strategy. They ought to be focused on saving healthcare, Schultz said. They ought to be focused on making sure we dont privatize Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Thats where the Democrats ought to be. Instead, theyre chasing down scandals or theyre making them up. Im justIm a little disappointed in them right now.
Rather, Democrats are probably disappointed in Schultz. He used to be a warrior for the working classcables biggest critic of union-busting Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, who also spoke at CPAC on Thursday. MSNBCs Chris Matthews even once told Schultz he should run the AFL-CIO. But like a disconcerting number of white-working class Democrats, Schultz found common cause with Trump after supporting Bernie Sanders in the Democratic presidential primaries.
I dont agree with Trump on everything, Schultz said on the radio row. Though he insisted his personal politics havent changed, he embraced Trumps moral equivalence between the U.S. and Russia. Asked about the presidents remark to Fox News host Bill OReilly that America has a lot of killers and is not so innocent, he said, I think the president was spot on saying that. I mean, could we say that Barack Obama was a killer? Let me just state the facts. The rest of the world is a little mad at America right now for the civilians that have been killed in drone strikes.
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/140860/ed-schultz-hits-new-low-cpac
In the black bolded would be hysterical if it weren't such a sad thing.
Ed's part of the Hillary-hating, putin machine over at RT television and he caped big time for tRumputin At CPAC just 4 days ago saying that his boy tRumputin will stick with the people and fix health care
I have not to this day told my friends who were in LOVE with Big Eddie who are mad as HELL at him now. I have not told any of them I told them so, but I DID tell them so
I'll sit back and just watch what Cenk does and says after having raised all of that CA$H from their "BUDDY," thuglican Buddy Romer ....
Cha
(305,622 posts)Tom Perez is not "establishment" as his divisive tweet accuses.
Mahalo for this, Lena
Cha
(305,622 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)You have NO problem with him taking 4 million from a republican so he can primary Democrats? Not fight republicans - FIGHT DEMOCRATS? And you don't see the problem with that or think that 4 million will influence his actions?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Response to leftynyc (Reply #7)
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leftynyc
(26,060 posts)from any republican because they don't have the better interest in MY party at heart. That you think he's going to use it to HELP Democrats is simply adorable. He's a right winger, just like he's always been.
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JCanete
(5,272 posts)As long as citizens united is the law of the land, we'd be suicidal not to play by the same rules. And those that sat on their asses or voted 3rd party in November are DIRECTLY responsible for citizens united remaining the law of the land.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)the party, but it is like going on life-support.
If holding about 45 percent of national seats is what we mean to do in perpetuity, then what we're doing now is a winning strategy. Big money is perfectly happy to prop up an alternative party that isn't so bad for them when the proles want to throw the bums out of office for a term or two. And the best part is we can continue to believe we live in a democracy.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)We ended the 50 state strategy and ignored the states just before a census...so you are completely wrong. And in 2000, Saradon and her Green crowd put Bush in office...much like this year. Trump barely won...and all of you who talk about how we must do this or that ...your guy Feingold lost in Wisconsin...so I think you should look at the situation a bit more carefully without your ideology getting in the way of data.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)Since 1996 that is the only time we've controlled congress and the Senate. Even if you want to blame the green party for W, which I think is erroneous, that doesn't account for the rest of our attrition in governorships and state seats.
I have no illusions about whether more progressive candidates are likely to win, especially when they are isolated and not fully supported in their message by the party. I don't suggest that that road is pretty, or guaranteed victory. I'm saying trying to be friendly or conciliatory with corporations is why we've had the attrition we've had. This is the perfect world for corporate interests. This is why they put money into the Democrats and the Republicans. So that their friends are the ones who win the primaries. And you literally just said in another thread that the funders hold sway over the message. You were talking about media, but I know you aren't going to try to separate politicians out from that behavior. So you must know then, it is a problem when we take money. You might think that it wins us elections and that there is no choice, but the proof is it barely does. It props us up as party number two. The opposition party, that occasionally gets two years to try to right the course, with its hands tied behind its back. And then, back to crazy town.
I know, we won the popular vote, but only for President. And the corporate media didn't lift a finger to do anything but to legitimize this man's presidency. These are the corporations we think we can be friendly with...that we can make promises to and they will have our backs. We mistake their donations as them seeing reason. What they see is a need to perpetuate a sense of democracy. What they see is a need to have a minority party that should it gain power for a few years, doesn't go all crazy on them.
Again, if we stop taking big money as a party, I don't know what that does to us. But if that choice meant we never won another election it would only prove that our system is already wholly and irrevocably fucked. We may as well know.
Cha
(305,622 posts)Dems.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)words for his own party and the media when it comes to these issues.
Second, if that was his agenda, then hopefully he miscalculated. I think and hope he is. Getting money out of politics is a mainstream desire, not the fringe crap that tea partiers saddled the Republicans with, ironically after the republicans and the big money astro-turfed them. This isn't saddling our candidates with anything. If anything it is freeing. And it is fair to say that we don't have a choice about taking money, while we have no choice. I'm happy that the TYT network and other non-mainstream liberal news and commentary organizations have more voice and a growing audience to promote that message so that the public at large, not just a percentage of the left, start insisting on a change.
Third, money spent on politics in the service of promoting a landscape that removes that money from it, is money well spent. People need to hear that there are options. They need candidates that represent those options.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,778 posts)but he's taking money from a Republican and that's somehow better? Hmmmmm.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The hypocrisy REEKS and while most do see the problem, some just refuse to or find some excuse for it.
Cha
(305,622 posts)pnwmom
(109,600 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Did anyone else see his airport rant? He's a selfish, pompous, self-important yutz!
He's very Sarandonesque in his smearing of Hillary and the Democratic party in general.
Just like Bill Maher, he thrives when the Democrats are out of power. Coincidence?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)In fact, it was his getting to get Issa to say he thought there should be a special prosecutor that has made those words all over the news this weekend. He goes after both sides but I think he's definitely a liberal.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... do not excuse him or relieve him of his obligation to apologize. And, when times are bad politically... digital respites like his show are sought-out by many, and therefore he does end up having better ratings. That is a demonstrable fact. Maher benefits with a Trump presidency.
StubbornThings
(259 posts)I listen to his podcast every day and he's nothing like that at all.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... that might help to explain our difference of opinion. He's smug, boorish, a know-it-all, and an interrupting loudmouth. He talks to hear himself speak. Words words words... very repetitive and banal.
For example: I also find Springer, Maury, and other cat-fight tell-all baby-daddy reality shows to be boring and/or offensive and an insult to my intelligence ... but other people find those same shows to be quite entertaining and of some value.
msongs
(70,217 posts)And now he's got 4 million dollars to crap on Democrats with. What a fucking hero.
progressoid
(50,767 posts)Air America (20062008)
YouTube (2005present)
Roku (20132016)
Hulu (20142016)
Current TV (20112013)[3]
Pluto TV (2014present)[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Turks
StubbornThings
(259 posts)I don't think half of you even know who Cenk is and what he fights for.
Squinch
(52,981 posts)Sometimes it becomes very clear to me how we got into the mess we're in today.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I am surprised, but not shocked...nothing will shock me anymore after this last election.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)and to his credit, he was decrying money in politics on Cenk's show 4 years ago,
so if money is going to be a part of the equation, I'm for it being used to promote the idea that it doesn't have to be this way, and shouldn't be.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)about Cent's Trump enabling during the past election.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)You can make a fair point that Roemer contributed because he thought that their message would do harm to Democrats. Listening to him, it doesn't sound that way, but I'm willing to be cynical with you on that. This is ironic though, that you think money has so much sway on how a person will behave. I know this is true. In the case of TYT, their message certainly sounds the same to me, and the most important point is that the money is being used to rail against money being in politics in the first place. In that way it is not promoting of a corrupt system, and in-fact the opposite, even if you see the taking of donations itself as corrupt.I'll agree with you that taking big sum donations are absolutely fraught and that news organizations and politicians behaviors and rhetoric should be scrutinized under those circumstances.
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)Cenk is a fraud.
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Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Is not shitting on Democrats. If the Democrats in power realized where they are wrong, maybe we wouldn't have Trump as president. Criticism is not hate, and those that ignore it are doomed to fail.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Dismissing and ignoring the majority of Democrats that had disagreements with Hillary in the battleground states cost us the white house.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)them...hope they suffer twice as much as the rest of us.
BannonsLiver
(18,100 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Hopefully we will not make the same mistakes Hillary's advisors and campaign made going forward.
Cha
(305,622 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)have abundant flaws to attack? Yet that jackass attacks Democrats exclusively.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)I have listened to every show for the last 5 years. He goes after Republicans much more than he goes after Democrats. And, when he goes after Democrats, it is because they did something wrong.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)the age of Trump, he goes after Democrats ....the only ones who can stop Trump by winning elections, then Cent is a damn fool.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)(which frauds like Cenk conveniently don't have to take) with standards that are virtually impossible to meet is quite another.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)How is that not a purity test?
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)That's a straw man.
I will say this - - I'd Cenk is going to shit on Democrats for allegedly being corpatists, he should at least walk the walk, doncha think?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Ironic. The unrealistic purity standards that will never get a majority of votes constitute most of the "criticism."
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)Swagman
(1,934 posts)and a valid view.
With the election of Trump there is a common enemy for all who are not to the right of Attila The Hun. The damage he has already done in just 4 weeks is absolutely toxic and he has unleashed very nasty forces. Trump has not and never will 'unite' the nation, he will tear it asunder.
He has already done incalculable damage.
There is no sitting on the fence this time like Maher & Cenk do and play both sides. The American people and the country do not have that luxury if they want the Republic to survive.
There should have been no sitting on the fence before the election as much of the mainstream media is now finding.
Media pundits who give any credence to a would be dictator like Trump would probably have said Mussolini was a bad guy but he got the trains to run on time (which he didn't actually do..another lie like The Don's speciality)
And this should have been self-evident to anyone with brains who saw Donald Trump even running let alone endorsed by the Republicans.
I have my own personal grip about Trump (bilked me for $3000 and my friend for $45,000) but his history as a rapacious job destroying flim flam merchant, contractor bankrupter (while asset stripping & making a fortune via his bankruptcies) was evident to all and should have alarmed all Americans especially those who believed in Capitalism because this man is not even a Capitalist. Ethical ones at least pay their bills.
Clinton was the only hope for improving on the centre of politics which Obama did so successfully.
Trump must be impeached before he does irreversible damage.
# think I made up a word.."bankrupter" !..might let it stay.
otohara
(24,135 posts)He totally shit on Democrats -
From today: Will I unite behind a pro-corporate money backed agenda in the Democratic Party? Hell no! That's what lost the election to Trump. #DNCChair
The smear job that establishment Dems did on @keithellison was harsher than anything they ever do against GOP. #DNCChair
Keith Ellison shouldn't take Deputy Chair position at DNC. No point to being #2 to the establishment. Let's fight them instead! #DNCChair
Cha
(305,622 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Wasn't the position of "Deputy Chair" created especially for Keith? (It didn't exist previously, right?)
Perez was being magnanimous and inclusive and making a unifying gesture... and that's STILL not good enough for troublemakers like Cenk.
And you described him perfectly ... "BUZZWORD PROFITEER".
He's just an ASS as far as I'm concerned.
Cha
(305,622 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)most liberal news organizations get their money...?
ETA: This story is from 2014. Maybe try to find more recent stories to bash TYT.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)The only one I know who takes GOP money to spoil elections is the Greens. And yes they did ...google PA and Texas. I am sure there are others but those are the ones I am familiar with.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)I don't care when they took the money...it is slimy.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)People understand that if they put enough advertising dollars into a media company that they are buying certain things...sometimes they're buying something as simple as "interest stories" that are actually promotions for a company or their product. Sometimes they're just helping to promote that same old pro corporate agenda, or insulate their own company and its dealings from any proactive reporting.
Also, as I posted elsewhere, Buddy Roemer's been saying that money in politics is a problem. This IS money in politics, but expressly with the agenda to promote getting it out. I'm okay with that.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)is a disclaimer ...about not endorsing the ad. And ad is not the same...I fail to understand why you want to tear down the only media that gets it right not all of the time , but more times than not.
progressoid
(50,767 posts)Those ads support their existence. Get rid of the ad revenue and it's pretty hard to run the show.
Swagman
(1,934 posts)who is financed by a Libertarian and since then he has pushed the Libertarian viewpoint that is so closely aligned to President Bannon.
I've noticed Cenk in the past is very much like Greenwald : just as you think they are exposing Republicans they mendaciously suddenly attack the Democrats.
This is on purpose : it has the affect for millions of people of promoting the notion that "all politicians in the end are the same and only in it for their own personal gain"
And with that you end up with the "non-politician" like Trump.
There are so many ways to play this game and the way US politics have unfolded over the past few years is so very Russian who are masters at this stuff.
And why would a media outlet even accept Republican financing?
Unless that Republican now thought it was important to put some sort of media check in place so Trump cannot go too far but I'm not buying that.
Swagman
(1,934 posts)Trump "sounds like an adult" and speech is somewhat effective.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Leading to the election you can bet his republican pals thought their money was VERY well spent. He sure gave them their money's worth, didn't he?
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)He goes after the Republicans much more than the Democrats, but that doesn't fit into your smear narrative.
Also, he endorsed Hillary and consistently was against Trump.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)he was WORTHLESS during the campaign (like David Axelrod). I'm sure it must be upsetting to his fans to point out who he's getting his money from and him jumping through hoops to give them their money's worth. That's not my problem.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)He still was less than complimentary and endorsed her grudgingly...I consider him part of those who helped elect Trump...he is dead to me.
Cha
(305,622 posts)cenk will go willingly.
Not so damn undercover though
Cha
(305,622 posts)after trump.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)As I said before, he is dead to me...wonder how he will earn his dirty GOP money.
gopiscrap
(24,200 posts)sounds like a repub clandestine op
BannonsLiver
(18,100 posts)Cha
(305,622 posts)screw Democrats.
D_Master81
(1,926 posts)is pointing out flaws in the hopes that they are fixed. Those that think this is "shitting on the Dems" are failing to see why the Dems have been losing seats all over the country for 6 yrs now. Cenk def wants the Dems to be in power and push a progressive agenda.
Cha
(305,622 posts)womanofthehills
(9,304 posts)Cenk is one of the few covering Standing Rock big time. He just started Justice Democrats to get new people to run for office - candidates supported by people and not corporations.
Cha
(305,622 posts)obvious from his tweet.
Link to tweet
He's a buzzword profiteer.
Keith and Tom want unity.. cenk can FO.
Link to tweet
He's also a liar.. Tom Perez is not his stupid buzzword "establishment"..
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and, he's just a plain old asshole which "taints" his otherwise reasonable moments.
I can't stand him, and have never understood why his fans don't have higher standards.
Cha
(305,622 posts)penchant for Lying.. all in one deplorable tweet.
He does profit but our country and her people decidedly do not.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... are his "followers" too dumb to see what he's doing? Or, do they know, but they're just too dumb to care?
Considering all the things that his followers (supposedly) care about, why would they want to follow a path that moves them FURTHER AWAY from their ultimate goals?
This simple fact may help to explain why it is that REPUBLICANS want to prop-up that smarmy bastard.
He strikes me as someone who'd fit in well at a buy-here/pay-here no-credit/no-problem subprime USED CAR dealership.
Cha
(305,622 posts)Good question.. same with the stein voters.. greens who helped ensure a Climate Change denier in the wh.
Really stupid to fall for stein Lies
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)I think Stein is right wing troll..especially after that picture with Putin and Flynn...the others are just uber purity types-maybe Paul supporters...we need to ignore them or maybe we will have to defend the Democratic Party by fighting back ...don't know. These people are just as much our opponents as the GOP.
yodermon
(6,147 posts)Corporate-fellating Democrats **SHOULD** be primaried.
http://www.justicedemocrats.com/
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leftynyc
(26,060 posts)It sure does explain a lot as far as I'm concerned. I thought cenk was just a purity troll, turns out he's getting paid by the opposition - A LOT OF MONEY. And all while he whines about Democrats taking money from icky places. He's a hypocrite. Fuck him.
Cha
(305,622 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... analysis. He's removed his cloak and revealed his true colors and intentions. He's nothing more than a provocateur and divider.
He's a total used car salesman, and people are falling for it. (That doesn't speak very well of his followers. They aren't thinking critically or objectively. They just hear the pied piper playing a song they like ... and tra-la-la-la-la ... they merrily follow along.)
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... that I didn't know before.
dancePop
(54 posts)This thread has me concerned that the people here are more concerned with keeping the status quo than bringing in any kind of change at all. Please tell me I'm wrong.
It would be nice to start winning again instead of continuing to do the same thing over and over and losing all of the time.
yodermon
(6,147 posts)It's one thing to support mainstream corporate Democrats; it's quite another to let fly with such vitriol, ad-homimen attacks and mean spiritedness. When that starts, it smells like an agenda.
IMHO, YMMV.
Maru Kitteh
(29,171 posts)Is that why you've come here? To tell us what's wrong with us and try to convince us to give up on certain states?
dancePop
(54 posts)I just hope I'm allowed to offer them here.
And, saying we can't win Texas is an opinion. I'm assuming that's ok here. No?
Also, I never said we should give up on certain states. You're putting words in my mouth.
Maru Kitteh
(29,171 posts)When you say you have plenty of thoughts "for" Democrats it indicates a separateness - like me saying I have plenty of thoughts "for" airline pilots. Hint: I am not an airline pilot.
I didn't say that you directly said we should give up on certain states. You're putting words in my mouth.
dancePop
(54 posts)I've been a Democrat my whole life. Saying I have plenty of positive ideas for Democrats is the same as saying I have plenty good ideas for my team.
And, you said, 'did you come here to try to convince us to give up on certain states' as if that's what I did. I said we couldn't win there. Those are two completely different things. You absolutely put words in my mouth.
I'm not going to say anything else. I'll let others decide if you did what you say you didn't.
Maru Kitteh
(29,171 posts)Just because you were promoting a narrative that Democrats can't win, who would ever ask if you were trying to convince them to give up?
dancePop
(54 posts)BTW, thanks for the warm welcome. That's very nice of you.
Maru Kitteh
(29,171 posts)"I'm not going to say anything else."
Du-oh!
Thank you for coming to DU to tell us what is wrong, and to let us know that Democrats can't win in Texas. It's very nice of you.
dancePop
(54 posts)progressoid
(50,767 posts)Don't worry about this one thread. Some people carry long grudges.
There are lots of other opinions here.
Blue_Tires
(56,090 posts)who to this day are still writing Hillary/Perez smear pieces while normalizing Trump and glorifying Putin...
TYT is just another extension of Sputnik now...
bronxiteforever
(9,471 posts)Obliteration Of the US with the present establishment (something Bannon wants).
I have real doubts as to our survival as a functioning Republic in the next four years.
There are times for party purity arguments. Now is not that time. You see in a system where freedom of assembly,freedom of the press,freedom from entangling Russian control over our voting
Rights, freedom of scientific thought is at stake, I don't want a paid off young Turk blowing up the remainder of my party, the last thin line separating us from a dictatorship. If the Bill of Rights is destroyed party purity will have little meaning.
I don't have time for listening to squabbling when the apocalypse is upon us. Join or die as Ben Franklin put it. And by die, they will kill us.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)And I frankly agree with TYT more often than not.
Way more often than I agree with neoliberal Democrats.
Of course, Democrats and the DNC NEVER take money from the right.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to point out his republican pals must think the money was very well spent given the amount of time cenk spent crapping all over Hillary. How about cenk not being such a fucking hypocrite whining about corporate money influencing politics while taking republican money and expecting people to believe it doesn't influence him? Or is he just too gosh darn pure for that?
LWolf
(46,179 posts)he's a hell of a lot more even handed than you are with people who don't take your point of view, to be honest.
It doesn't really matter though. Hate all you like, if that's what makes you happy. I don't think your hate is going to bring anyone but yourself down.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)of such an extreme emotion. I simply dismiss him.
I'm sure that "dismissal" is why you, instead of "dismissing" him, started a thread about him.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to post that thread and maybe 10 minutes to answer anyone who asked something. But you go ahead and call using 10 minutes of my time to point out a sniveling hypocrite hatred. It makes you feel better for some pathetic reason. You seem awfully offended I don't worship at the feet of this man - friend of yours?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,443 posts)batting an eye, and people ate it up. I've never trusted either of them. They're following the money, and if that money calls for them to be an infiltrating rightwing flunkie, we've seen how quickly they can turn on a dime. Can't stand Cenk.