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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:25 PM Feb 2017

The Young Turks Network Raises $4 Million From Former Republican Presidential Candidate

he Young Turks Network has just announced $4 million in new funding from an unlikely source: former Louisiana Governor and 2012 Republican presidential candidate Buddy Roemer. The seed money, which includes an option to go up to $8 million, came from the politician’s private equity fund Roemer, Robinson, Melville & Co., LLC.

Cenk Uygur, who hosts the network’s flagship The Young Turks (billed as the largest online news show in the world) and founded TYT Network, previously served as a contributor for MSNBC and is generally seen to have a liberal bent to his politics, though his views can also err on the libertarian side of the spectrum.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/the-young-turks-network-raises-4-million-from-former-republican-presidential-candidate/


Far be it from me to question such a "pure" Democrat but he's now looking to primary safe Democrats. NOT fighting republicans. And who is he getting money from? Someone who benefits from a divided Democratic party. Fuck this.

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The Young Turks Network Raises $4 Million From Former Republican Presidential Candidate (Original Post) leftynyc Feb 2017 OP
I know - can't we win back state legislatures NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #1
I ALWAYS look to where leftynyc Feb 2017 #2
Don't trust Cenk. JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #3
I agree workinclasszero Feb 2017 #4
Agree BainsBane Feb 2017 #12
That's right.. Cha Feb 2017 #62
+100000. He acted like a RW jerk during his very short stint ecstatic Feb 2017 #75
CENK jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #5
Mine too. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #6
I'll try and leftynyc Feb 2017 #8
i worry about your ability to live your life successfully when low post Du'ers have had it with you La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #34
LOL leftynyc Feb 2017 #83
Cenk, Maher, Moore, Hartmann, Goodman, Toure, Joe Madison, Sanders, Warren, Keith both #1 and #2 jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #16
All good points. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #23
We dont eat our own. Eko Feb 2017 #52
not if they are like our DEM jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #54
So we do eat our own, Eko Feb 2017 #55
Followed quickly by a list of people who do not meet your standard of purity. LanternWaste Feb 2017 #113
Lantern jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #115
Keith and Tom want Unity the others don't.. Yeah, and Hillary wants Unity, too Cha Feb 2017 #64
Keith and Tom want Unity the others don't.. Yeah, and Hillary wants Unity, too. LenaBaby61 Feb 2017 #80
Schultz is full of shite.. and so is cenk.. he's a liar.. Cha Feb 2017 #81
Good.. some "hero".. cenk the damn divider Cha Feb 2017 #72
Just to be clear leftynyc Feb 2017 #7
You couldn't have been clearer! (Thank you!) NurseJackie Feb 2017 #10
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I wouldn't take the money leftynyc Feb 2017 #24
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look at what Roemer has been saying about money in politics. nt JCanete Feb 2017 #19
BFD leftynyc Feb 2017 #25
Just look at the numbers over the last 3 decades. Our current approach isn't suicide for JCanete Feb 2017 #30
We had everything in 2008... so I have no idea what you are talking about. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #99
We eeked out a small majority that we couldn't hold. And that is literally for 2 years. JCanete Feb 2017 #108
It doesn't matter.. donating to cenk means he wants to screw with Cha Feb 2017 #65
First, I accept that that is a possibility, although listening to his interview, he had some harsh JCanete Feb 2017 #82
His biggest complaint is that Democrats take corporate cash Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2017 #106
Exactly leftynyc Feb 2017 #111
Yeah, such a damn divider.. Cha Feb 2017 #63
Even though he takes millions from Rethugs. Some hero. n/t pnwmom Feb 2017 #73
Cenk is an ass. Worse than Dennis Miller and Ed Schultz. Can't stand him. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #9
I disagree about Maher leftynyc Feb 2017 #14
He's said some pretty unforgivable things. His occasional zingers and sense of humor ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #20
I think you're talking about the wrong person. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #22
No, I'm talking about the same person. I guess my standards are higher ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #42
is YT still a mouth piece for russia today and the putin fake news network? nt msongs Feb 2017 #11
Yes leftynyc Feb 2017 #15
No. He's not on RT. progressoid Feb 2017 #121
What are talking about? StubbornThings Feb 2017 #26
Yup. And now he has millions from Republicans to fight Democrats. And yet there are those... Squinch Feb 2017 #27
No, never was. nt JCanete Feb 2017 #31
Dam Centrist. Rex Feb 2017 #13
I'm glad they have the money to promote liberal politics. Buddy Roemer isn't running the show, JCanete Feb 2017 #18
He who calls pays the price calls the tune...it is naive to believe otherwise...and explains much Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #100
I didn't see Trump enabling, nor do I see it there now. Nor are they guilty of false equivalencies. JCanete Feb 2017 #107
$4 million to continue shitting on Democrats for the next four years. Charles Bukowski Feb 2017 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #29
Pointing out the flaws... Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #33
It is why we have Trump in power....shitting on Democrats. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #36
Exactly. Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #38
No ...those who voted for Trump,third party or not at all cost us the election...and I say screw Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #47
Hillary's over. Time to find a new kink. BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #56
I was speaking about what happened in the past. Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #58
No it didn't.. that's not what cost us the WH. Cha Feb 2017 #68
Your post make me want to throw up. Like the republicans don't Blue_true Feb 2017 #40
No he does not. Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #41
I wouldn't know about that as I stopped listening to him during the election...however, if in Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #46
that actually is factually far from correct. Why say it? nt JCanete Feb 2017 #50
Criticism is one thing. Setting up progressive purity tests Charles Bukowski Feb 2017 #43
So, he has to fall in line with your view Dem party...? Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #44
Where did I say he has to fall in line with anything? Charles Bukowski Feb 2017 #48
We have to fall in line with his view and his purity tests treestar Feb 2017 #89
He is not a Democrat ...and he is purely awful. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #101
this is a very important point Swagman Feb 2017 #129
That's Hysterical otohara Feb 2017 #60
cenk is a divider.. fucking buzzword profiteer Cha Feb 2017 #67
OMG! I hadn't see that. What the FUCK is wrong with him??? NurseJackie Feb 2017 #87
lHe's a total ******* Fraud.. Cha Feb 2017 #66
And, where do you think... Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #32
Please find a liberal news site that took money from the GOP or retract your they all do it posting. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #37
Look at the advertisements. NT. Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #39
No, taking advertisements is not the same ...couldn't find anything right? Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #45
actually it is the same, or certainly has a similar potential impact. It absolutely effects coverage JCanete Feb 2017 #49
Well said. nt. Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #86
No it is not the same...right under the bottom of every newspaper Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #97
If that's the case then why have so many companies pulled ads from Breitbart et. al.? progressoid Feb 2017 #122
This is very similar to Glenn Greenwald Swagman Mar 2017 #130
Cenk now tweeting that in SOU speech Swagman Mar 2017 #131
After his behavior leftynyc Feb 2017 #53
Except... Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #59
After all the trashing leftynyc Feb 2017 #84
Hillary didn't need friends like that guy... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #98
Oh it's undercover OP.. repub giving money to cenk.. I have no doubt.. and Cha Feb 2017 #77
cenk bashes himself by bashing Dems when he should be going Cha Feb 2017 #69
Not surprised after his behavior during the election. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #35
wow gopiscrap Feb 2017 #51
That's probably because it is. BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #57
Exactly.. which is easy with cenk because he's out to Cha Feb 2017 #71
Cenk D_Master81 Feb 2017 #61
Nah, cenk is a damn divider only out for himself.. Cha Feb 2017 #70
Disagree - Cenk wants to take the party more to the left which I like womanofthehills Feb 2017 #74
I'm glad he's covering Standing Rock.. he needs to stick to that.. he's still a damn Divider as Cha Feb 2017 #76
Cenk's tweet was DIGUSTING!! He profits when Democrats are divided... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #88
I know.. it is Disgusting. He taunts his divisive bullshit and his Cha Feb 2017 #90
His lies and blatant efforts to divide are SO obvious! It makes me wonder ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #92
".. why would they want to follow a path that moves them FURTHER AWAY from their ultimate goals?" Cha Feb 2017 #93
They don't care if they win and they attack the Democratic Party exclusively... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #102
THIS ARTICLE IS 3 YEARS OLD. ffs. yodermon Feb 2017 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author phleshdef Feb 2017 #79
So what? leftynyc Feb 2017 #85
Well, this cenk tweet is more current for ya.. he's divisive and a Liar.. Cha Feb 2017 #91
That right there should PERMANENTLY disqualify him from ANY serious discussion or ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #96
Is it less-true because if its age? I'm glad to learn more about that asshole ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #94
I'm new to this site. dancePop Feb 2017 #103
This site has become Underground in name only, sad to say. yodermon Feb 2017 #105
Of the 4 posts I've seen from you, 2 criticize DU/DUers and 2 say we can't win Texas Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #109
No. I've got plenty of thoughts that are mostly positive for Democrats. dancePop Feb 2017 #112
I take it from your reply you are not a Democrat? Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #114
LOL. Not even close. dancePop Feb 2017 #118
Rrrriiiiiiiight. Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #119
At least you finally admit it. dancePop Feb 2017 #120
That's cute little alt-fact statement you made there. Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #124
Ugh! nt dancePop Feb 2017 #125
Welcome to DU dancePop progressoid Feb 2017 #123
That explains the emoprog nutbars like Michael Tracey and Nomiki Konst Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #95
I believe in a more progressive party than we have but I see the complete bronxiteforever Feb 2017 #104
+1000 leftynyc Feb 2017 #110
Old news. LWolf Feb 2017 #116
It's old news leftynyc Feb 2017 #117
I think LWolf Feb 2017 #126
He's hardly worthy leftynyc Feb 2017 #127
Okay. LWolf Mar 2017 #132
LOL - it took all of 20 seconds leftynyc Mar 2017 #133
This has been my problem with both Ed & Cenk. They go from hardcore rightwing to emoprog without Tarheel_Dem Feb 2017 #128

NewJeffCT

(56,840 posts)
1. I know - can't we win back state legislatures
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:28 PM
Feb 2017

and the House & Senate first before we start with primarying incumbent Democrats?

JaneQPublic

(7,117 posts)
3. Don't trust Cenk.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:33 PM
Feb 2017

He's spent his entire adulthood bashing Dems, only in recent years i'ts been from the left instead of the right, so he gets away with it.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
34. i worry about your ability to live your life successfully when low post Du'ers have had it with you
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:09 PM
Feb 2017

are you sure you will be ok?

LOL and

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
83. LOL
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 05:34 AM
Feb 2017

I noticed that also. Anyone who isn't interested in making the Democratic stronger isn't worth my time. That's why this website was created.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
16. Cenk, Maher, Moore, Hartmann, Goodman, Toure, Joe Madison, Sanders, Warren, Keith both #1 and #2
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:19 PM
Feb 2017

on and on. Geniuses all. And good Progressive DEMs. The best of the best. I will never understand why you guys think it is cool to demand 100% purity. We don't eat our own. We are inclusive. We are not the crazy Republicans.

Who are your heroes...Hillary, Hillary, and Hillary?

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
54. not if they are like our DEM
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:09 PM
Feb 2017

Ron Kind, who just voted to give guns to crazy people. Or Allison 3 names from KY...who played possum RE: did you vote or Obama? While toting her firearm. There are some shitty DINOS in office.

We don't elect Cenk. Or pay him. He does not make laws FOR US. There is a difference.

Eko

(8,550 posts)
55. So we do eat our own,
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:21 PM
Feb 2017

but its ok if its the ones you don't like and you listed Sanders and Warren so the not elected thing doesn't work. I wonder who said this? " I will never understand why you guys think it is cool to demand 100% purity. We don't eat our own. We are inclusive." I miss that person.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
113. Followed quickly by a list of people who do not meet your standard of purity.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:33 PM
Feb 2017

"I will never understand why you guys think it is cool to demand 100% purity. We don't eat our own..."

Followed quickly by your above list of people who do not meet standards of purity.

You hold others to a higher standard than you hold yourself. No doubt, many "have no use for that" either.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
115. Lantern
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:46 PM
Feb 2017

I'm sorry, I cannot make any sense out of what you just wrote. I really can't. Please explain. I listed 2 public servants who do not meet Progressive Dem standards regarding GUNS. I call them DINOs. 14 little kids slaughtered at Sandy Hook and my Rep votes with the Rs to give guns to crazy people last week. He certainly does not meet my standards.

And once again, elected officials paid by us are different than pundits. CENK is a pundit, and a brilliant one.

Cha

(305,622 posts)
64. Keith and Tom want Unity the others don't.. Yeah, and Hillary wants Unity, too
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 12:04 AM
Feb 2017



cenk is all about the fast buck for himself..


LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
80. Keith and Tom want Unity the others don't.. Yeah, and Hillary wants Unity, too.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 02:02 AM
Feb 2017

Yeah, I don't pay much attention to Cenk any longer.

People thought that Ed Schultz was a true progressive too ..... I had friends who LOVED Big Eddie. I used to watch him when he was on Air America years ago, then followed him onto MSNBC. But in the back of my mind, something about Ed never set right with me. Friends kept saying, NO you're wrong, Ed is the MAN. I said, okay...Whatever.

But here we are in 2017...


Ed Schultz hits a new low at CPAC.

It wasn’t entirely surprising that the former progressive talk radio host and MSNBC personality agreed to speak at annual conservative conference this year. Once a self-styled “prairie populist,” he signed on last January with RT America, where he anchors the nightly news for the state-run Russian network. He’s changed his tone on President Vladimir Putin, whom he used to deride as “Putie.” “Schultz, who once said on MSNBC that Putin is ‘crippling’ his country, now has a Russo-friendly, or perhaps American-skeptical, viewpoint on any number of issues,” The Washington Post reported in December.

Schultz has done an about-face on Trump, too. After calling him a racist and ridiculing his presidential ambitions in 2011, he praised Trump’s political skills during the campaign and downplayed Russia’s role in his election. Still, none of that quite compares to the praise Schultz heaped on the president on Thursday, talking with reporters on CPAC’s radio row. “I think he’s pragmatic, and I think he wants to win—he wants to win for the little guy,” Schultz said.

Schultz predicted Trump “will go with the people” on healthcare, speculating that the president might slow Republican efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and criticized Democrats’ opposition strategy. “They ought to be focused on saving healthcare,” Schultz said. “They ought to be focused on making sure we don’t privatize Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. That’s where the Democrats ought to be. Instead, they’re chasing down scandals or they’re making them up. I’m just—I’m a little disappointed in them right now.”

Rather, Democrats are probably disappointed in Schultz. He used to be a warrior for the working class—cable’s biggest critic of union-busting Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, who also spoke at CPAC on Thursday. MSNBC’s Chris Matthews even once told Schultz he should run the AFL-CIO. But like a disconcerting number of white-working class Democrats, Schultz found common cause with Trump after supporting Bernie Sanders in the Democratic presidential primaries.

“I don’t agree with Trump on everything,” Schultz said on the radio row. Though he insisted his personal politics haven’t changed, he embraced Trump’s moral equivalence between the U.S. and Russia. Asked about the president’s remark to Fox News host Bill O’Reilly that America has “a lot of killers” and is “not so innocent,” he said, “I think the president was spot on saying that. I mean, could we say that Barack Obama was a killer? Let me just state the facts. The rest of the world is a little mad at America right now for the civilians that have been killed in drone strikes.”

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/140860/ed-schultz-hits-new-low-cpac

In the black bolded would be hysterical if it weren't such a sad thing.

Ed's part of the Hillary-hating, putin machine over at RT television and he caped big time for tRumputin At CPAC just 4 days ago saying that his boy tRumputin will stick with the people and fix health care

I have not to this day told my friends who were in LOVE with Big Eddie who are mad as HELL at him now. I have not told any of them I told them so, but I DID tell them so

I'll sit back and just watch what Cenk does and says after having raised all of that CA$H from their "BUDDY," thuglican Buddy Romer ....




Cha

(305,622 posts)
81. Schultz is full of shite.. and so is cenk.. he's a liar..
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 02:08 AM
Feb 2017

Tom Perez is not "establishment" as his divisive tweet accuses.

Mahalo for this, Lena

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. Just to be clear
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:08 PM
Feb 2017

You have NO problem with him taking 4 million from a republican so he can primary Democrats? Not fight republicans - FIGHT DEMOCRATS? And you don't see the problem with that or think that 4 million will influence his actions?

Response to leftynyc (Reply #7)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. I wouldn't take the money
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:38 PM
Feb 2017

from any republican because they don't have the better interest in MY party at heart. That you think he's going to use it to HELP Democrats is simply adorable. He's a right winger, just like he's always been.

Response to leftynyc (Reply #24)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
25. BFD
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:39 PM
Feb 2017

As long as citizens united is the law of the land, we'd be suicidal not to play by the same rules. And those that sat on their asses or voted 3rd party in November are DIRECTLY responsible for citizens united remaining the law of the land.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
30. Just look at the numbers over the last 3 decades. Our current approach isn't suicide for
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:49 PM
Feb 2017

the party, but it is like going on life-support.

If holding about 45 percent of national seats is what we mean to do in perpetuity, then what we're doing now is a winning strategy. Big money is perfectly happy to prop up an alternative party that isn't so bad for them when the proles want to throw the bums out of office for a term or two. And the best part is we can continue to believe we live in a democracy.

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
99. We had everything in 2008... so I have no idea what you are talking about.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 12:20 PM
Feb 2017

We ended the 50 state strategy and ignored the states just before a census...so you are completely wrong. And in 2000, Saradon and her Green crowd put Bush in office...much like this year. Trump barely won...and all of you who talk about how we must do this or that ...your guy Feingold lost in Wisconsin...so I think you should look at the situation a bit more carefully without your ideology getting in the way of data.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
108. We eeked out a small majority that we couldn't hold. And that is literally for 2 years.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 02:19 PM
Feb 2017

Since 1996 that is the only time we've controlled congress and the Senate. Even if you want to blame the green party for W, which I think is erroneous, that doesn't account for the rest of our attrition in governorships and state seats.

I have no illusions about whether more progressive candidates are likely to win, especially when they are isolated and not fully supported in their message by the party. I don't suggest that that road is pretty, or guaranteed victory. I'm saying trying to be friendly or conciliatory with corporations is why we've had the attrition we've had. This is the perfect world for corporate interests. This is why they put money into the Democrats and the Republicans. So that their friends are the ones who win the primaries. And you literally just said in another thread that the funders hold sway over the message. You were talking about media, but I know you aren't going to try to separate politicians out from that behavior. So you must know then, it is a problem when we take money. You might think that it wins us elections and that there is no choice, but the proof is it barely does. It props us up as party number two. The opposition party, that occasionally gets two years to try to right the course, with its hands tied behind its back. And then, back to crazy town.

I know, we won the popular vote, but only for President. And the corporate media didn't lift a finger to do anything but to legitimize this man's presidency. These are the corporations we think we can be friendly with...that we can make promises to and they will have our backs. We mistake their donations as them seeing reason. What they see is a need to perpetuate a sense of democracy. What they see is a need to have a minority party that should it gain power for a few years, doesn't go all crazy on them.

Again, if we stop taking big money as a party, I don't know what that does to us. But if that choice meant we never won another election it would only prove that our system is already wholly and irrevocably fucked. We may as well know.
 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
82. First, I accept that that is a possibility, although listening to his interview, he had some harsh
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:57 AM
Feb 2017

words for his own party and the media when it comes to these issues.

Second, if that was his agenda, then hopefully he miscalculated. I think and hope he is. Getting money out of politics is a mainstream desire, not the fringe crap that tea partiers saddled the Republicans with, ironically after the republicans and the big money astro-turfed them. This isn't saddling our candidates with anything. If anything it is freeing. And it is fair to say that we don't have a choice about taking money, while we have no choice. I'm happy that the TYT network and other non-mainstream liberal news and commentary organizations have more voice and a growing audience to promote that message so that the public at large, not just a percentage of the left, start insisting on a change.

Third, money spent on politics in the service of promoting a landscape that removes that money from it, is money well spent. People need to hear that there are options. They need candidates that represent those options.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,778 posts)
106. His biggest complaint is that Democrats take corporate cash
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 01:52 PM
Feb 2017

but he's taking money from a Republican and that's somehow better? Hmmmmm.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
111. Exactly
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:14 PM
Feb 2017

The hypocrisy REEKS and while most do see the problem, some just refuse to or find some excuse for it.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Cenk is an ass. Worse than Dennis Miller and Ed Schultz. Can't stand him.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:08 PM
Feb 2017

Did anyone else see his airport rant? He's a selfish, pompous, self-important yutz!

He's very Sarandonesque in his smearing of Hillary and the Democratic party in general.

Just like Bill Maher, he thrives when the Democrats are out of power. Coincidence?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
14. I disagree about Maher
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:13 PM
Feb 2017

In fact, it was his getting to get Issa to say he thought there should be a special prosecutor that has made those words all over the news this weekend. He goes after both sides but I think he's definitely a liberal.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. He's said some pretty unforgivable things. His occasional zingers and sense of humor ...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:24 PM
Feb 2017

... do not excuse him or relieve him of his obligation to apologize. And, when times are bad politically... digital respites like his show are sought-out by many, and therefore he does end up having better ratings. That is a demonstrable fact. Maher benefits with a Trump presidency.

 

StubbornThings

(259 posts)
22. I think you're talking about the wrong person.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:36 PM
Feb 2017

I listen to his podcast every day and he's nothing like that at all.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
42. No, I'm talking about the same person. I guess my standards are higher ...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:35 PM
Feb 2017

... that might help to explain our difference of opinion. He's smug, boorish, a know-it-all, and an interrupting loudmouth. He talks to hear himself speak. Words words words... very repetitive and banal.

For example: I also find Springer, Maury, and other cat-fight tell-all baby-daddy reality shows to be boring and/or offensive and an insult to my intelligence ... but other people find those same shows to be quite entertaining and of some value.

progressoid

(50,767 posts)
121. No. He's not on RT.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:49 PM
Feb 2017
network Sirius Satellite Radio (2002–2009, 2009–2010)
Air America (2006–2008)
YouTube (2005–present)
Roku (2013–2016)
Hulu (2014–2016)
Current TV (2011–2013)[3]
Pluto TV (2014–present)[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Turks

Squinch

(52,981 posts)
27. Yup. And now he has millions from Republicans to fight Democrats. And yet there are those...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:43 PM
Feb 2017

Sometimes it becomes very clear to me how we got into the mess we're in today.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Dam Centrist.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:11 PM
Feb 2017

I am surprised, but not shocked...nothing will shock me anymore after this last election.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
18. I'm glad they have the money to promote liberal politics. Buddy Roemer isn't running the show,
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 04:21 PM
Feb 2017

and to his credit, he was decrying money in politics on Cenk's show 4 years ago,



so if money is going to be a part of the equation, I'm for it being used to promote the idea that it doesn't have to be this way, and shouldn't be.

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
100. He who calls pays the price calls the tune...it is naive to believe otherwise...and explains much
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 12:21 PM
Feb 2017

about Cent's Trump enabling during the past election.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
107. I didn't see Trump enabling, nor do I see it there now. Nor are they guilty of false equivalencies.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 01:54 PM
Feb 2017

You can make a fair point that Roemer contributed because he thought that their message would do harm to Democrats. Listening to him, it doesn't sound that way, but I'm willing to be cynical with you on that. This is ironic though, that you think money has so much sway on how a person will behave. I know this is true. In the case of TYT, their message certainly sounds the same to me, and the most important point is that the money is being used to rail against money being in politics in the first place. In that way it is not promoting of a corrupt system, and in-fact the opposite, even if you see the taking of donations itself as corrupt.I'll agree with you that taking big sum donations are absolutely fraught and that news organizations and politicians behaviors and rhetoric should be scrutinized under those circumstances.

Response to Charles Bukowski (Reply #21)

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
33. Pointing out the flaws...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:07 PM
Feb 2017

Is not shitting on Democrats. If the Democrats in power realized where they are wrong, maybe we wouldn't have Trump as president. Criticism is not hate, and those that ignore it are doomed to fail.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
38. Exactly.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:16 PM
Feb 2017

Dismissing and ignoring the majority of Democrats that had disagreements with Hillary in the battleground states cost us the white house.

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
47. No ...those who voted for Trump,third party or not at all cost us the election...and I say screw
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:43 PM
Feb 2017

them...hope they suffer twice as much as the rest of us.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
58. I was speaking about what happened in the past.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:40 PM
Feb 2017

Hopefully we will not make the same mistakes Hillary's advisors and campaign made going forward.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Your post make me want to throw up. Like the republicans don't
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:27 PM
Feb 2017

have abundant flaws to attack? Yet that jackass attacks Democrats exclusively.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
41. No he does not.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:28 PM
Feb 2017

I have listened to every show for the last 5 years. He goes after Republicans much more than he goes after Democrats. And, when he goes after Democrats, it is because they did something wrong.

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
46. I wouldn't know about that as I stopped listening to him during the election...however, if in
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:42 PM
Feb 2017

the age of Trump, he goes after Democrats ....the only ones who can stop Trump by winning elections, then Cent is a damn fool.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
43. Criticism is one thing. Setting up progressive purity tests
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:35 PM
Feb 2017

(which frauds like Cenk conveniently don't have to take) with standards that are virtually impossible to meet is quite another.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
48. Where did I say he has to fall in line with anything?
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:17 PM
Feb 2017

That's a straw man.

I will say this - - I'd Cenk is going to shit on Democrats for allegedly being corpatists, he should at least walk the walk, doncha think?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
89. We have to fall in line with his view and his purity tests
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 08:33 AM
Feb 2017

Ironic. The unrealistic purity standards that will never get a majority of votes constitute most of the "criticism."

Swagman

(1,934 posts)
129. this is a very important point
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 11:47 PM
Feb 2017

and a valid view.

With the election of Trump there is a common enemy for all who are not to the right of Attila The Hun. The damage he has already done in just 4 weeks is absolutely toxic and he has unleashed very nasty forces. Trump has not and never will 'unite' the nation, he will tear it asunder.

He has already done incalculable damage.

There is no sitting on the fence this time like Maher & Cenk do and play both sides. The American people and the country do not have that luxury if they want the Republic to survive.

There should have been no sitting on the fence before the election as much of the mainstream media is now finding.

Media pundits who give any credence to a would be dictator like Trump would probably have said Mussolini was a bad guy but he got the trains to run on time (which he didn't actually do..another lie like The Don's speciality)

And this should have been self-evident to anyone with brains who saw Donald Trump even running let alone endorsed by the Republicans.

I have my own personal grip about Trump (bilked me for $3000 and my friend for $45,000) but his history as a rapacious job destroying flim flam merchant, contractor bankrupter (while asset stripping & making a fortune via his bankruptcies) was evident to all and should have alarmed all Americans especially those who believed in Capitalism because this man is not even a Capitalist. Ethical ones at least pay their bills.

Clinton was the only hope for improving on the centre of politics which Obama did so successfully.
Trump must be impeached before he does irreversible damage.

# think I made up a word.."bankrupter" !..might let it stay.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
60. That's Hysterical
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:12 PM
Feb 2017

He totally shit on Democrats -

From today: Will I unite behind a pro-corporate money backed agenda in the Democratic Party? Hell no! That's what lost the election to Trump. #DNCChair

The smear job that establishment Dems did on @keithellison was harsher than anything they ever do against GOP. #DNCChair

Keith Ellison shouldn't take Deputy Chair position at DNC. No point to being #2 to the establishment. Let's fight them instead! #DNCChair

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
87. OMG! I hadn't see that. What the FUCK is wrong with him???
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 08:30 AM
Feb 2017

Wasn't the position of "Deputy Chair" created especially for Keith? (It didn't exist previously, right?)

Perez was being magnanimous and inclusive and making a unifying gesture... and that's STILL not good enough for troublemakers like Cenk.

And you described him perfectly ... "BUZZWORD PROFITEER".

He's just an ASS as far as I'm concerned.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
32. And, where do you think...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:05 PM
Feb 2017

most liberal news organizations get their money...?

ETA: This story is from 2014. Maybe try to find more recent stories to bash TYT.

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
37. Please find a liberal news site that took money from the GOP or retract your they all do it posting.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:16 PM
Feb 2017

The only one I know who takes GOP money to spoil elections is the Greens. And yes they did ...google PA and Texas. I am sure there are others but those are the ones I am familiar with.

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
45. No, taking advertisements is not the same ...couldn't find anything right?
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:41 PM
Feb 2017

I don't care when they took the money...it is slimy.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
49. actually it is the same, or certainly has a similar potential impact. It absolutely effects coverage
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:34 PM
Feb 2017

People understand that if they put enough advertising dollars into a media company that they are buying certain things...sometimes they're buying something as simple as "interest stories" that are actually promotions for a company or their product. Sometimes they're just helping to promote that same old pro corporate agenda, or insulate their own company and its dealings from any proactive reporting.

Also, as I posted elsewhere, Buddy Roemer's been saying that money in politics is a problem. This IS money in politics, but expressly with the agenda to promote getting it out. I'm okay with that.

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
97. No it is not the same...right under the bottom of every newspaper
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 12:14 PM
Feb 2017

is a disclaimer ...about not endorsing the ad. And ad is not the same...I fail to understand why you want to tear down the only media that gets it right not all of the time , but more times than not.

progressoid

(50,767 posts)
122. If that's the case then why have so many companies pulled ads from Breitbart et. al.?
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:54 PM
Feb 2017

Those ads support their existence. Get rid of the ad revenue and it's pretty hard to run the show.

Swagman

(1,934 posts)
130. This is very similar to Glenn Greenwald
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 12:01 AM
Mar 2017

who is financed by a Libertarian and since then he has pushed the Libertarian viewpoint that is so closely aligned to President Bannon.

I've noticed Cenk in the past is very much like Greenwald : just as you think they are exposing Republicans they mendaciously suddenly attack the Democrats.

This is on purpose : it has the affect for millions of people of promoting the notion that "all politicians in the end are the same and only in it for their own personal gain"

And with that you end up with the "non-politician" like Trump.

There are so many ways to play this game and the way US politics have unfolded over the past few years is so very Russian who are masters at this stuff.

And why would a media outlet even accept Republican financing?
Unless that Republican now thought it was important to put some sort of media check in place so Trump cannot go too far but I'm not buying that.

Swagman

(1,934 posts)
131. Cenk now tweeting that in SOU speech
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 05:55 AM
Mar 2017

Trump "sounds like an adult" and speech is somewhat effective.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
53. After his behavior
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:09 PM
Feb 2017

Leading to the election you can bet his republican pals thought their money was VERY well spent. He sure gave them their money's worth, didn't he?

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
59. Except...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 07:42 PM
Feb 2017

He goes after the Republicans much more than the Democrats, but that doesn't fit into your smear narrative.

Also, he endorsed Hillary and consistently was against Trump.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
84. After all the trashing
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 05:36 AM
Feb 2017

he was WORTHLESS during the campaign (like David Axelrod). I'm sure it must be upsetting to his fans to point out who he's getting his money from and him jumping through hoops to give them their money's worth. That's not my problem.

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
98. Hillary didn't need friends like that guy...
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 12:15 PM
Feb 2017

He still was less than complimentary and endorsed her grudgingly...I consider him part of those who helped elect Trump...he is dead to me.

Cha

(305,622 posts)
77. Oh it's undercover OP.. repub giving money to cenk.. I have no doubt.. and
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 01:32 AM
Feb 2017

cenk will go willingly.

Not so damn undercover though

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
35. Not surprised after his behavior during the election.
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 05:11 PM
Feb 2017

As I said before, he is dead to me...wonder how he will earn his dirty GOP money.

D_Master81

(1,926 posts)
61. Cenk
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:53 PM
Feb 2017

is pointing out flaws in the hopes that they are fixed. Those that think this is "shitting on the Dems" are failing to see why the Dems have been losing seats all over the country for 6 yrs now. Cenk def wants the Dems to be in power and push a progressive agenda.

womanofthehills

(9,304 posts)
74. Disagree - Cenk wants to take the party more to the left which I like
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 01:19 AM
Feb 2017

Cenk is one of the few covering Standing Rock big time. He just started Justice Democrats to get new people to run for office - candidates supported by people and not corporations.

Cha

(305,622 posts)
76. I'm glad he's covering Standing Rock.. he needs to stick to that.. he's still a damn Divider as
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 01:28 AM
Feb 2017

obvious from his tweet.




He's a buzzword profiteer.

Keith and Tom want unity.. cenk can FO.




He's also a liar.. Tom Perez is not his stupid buzzword "establishment"..

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
88. Cenk's tweet was DIGUSTING!! He profits when Democrats are divided...
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 08:33 AM
Feb 2017

... and, he's just a plain old asshole which "taints" his otherwise reasonable moments.

I can't stand him, and have never understood why his fans don't have higher standards.

Cha

(305,622 posts)
90. I know.. it is Disgusting. He taunts his divisive bullshit and his
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 08:44 AM
Feb 2017

penchant for Lying.. all in one deplorable tweet.

He does profit but our country and her people decidedly do not.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
92. His lies and blatant efforts to divide are SO obvious! It makes me wonder ...
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 08:53 AM
Feb 2017

... are his "followers" too dumb to see what he's doing? Or, do they know, but they're just too dumb to care?

Considering all the things that his followers (supposedly) care about, why would they want to follow a path that moves them FURTHER AWAY from their ultimate goals?

This simple fact may help to explain why it is that REPUBLICANS want to prop-up that smarmy bastard.

He strikes me as someone who'd fit in well at a buy-here/pay-here no-credit/no-problem subprime USED CAR dealership.


Cha

(305,622 posts)
93. ".. why would they want to follow a path that moves them FURTHER AWAY from their ultimate goals?"
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 08:57 AM
Feb 2017

Good question.. same with the stein voters.. greens who helped ensure a Climate Change denier in the wh.

Really stupid to fall for stein Lies

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
102. They don't care if they win and they attack the Democratic Party exclusively...
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 12:39 PM
Feb 2017

I think Stein is right wing troll..especially after that picture with Putin and Flynn...the others are just uber purity types-maybe Paul supporters...we need to ignore them or maybe we will have to defend the Democratic Party by fighting back ...don't know. These people are just as much our opponents as the GOP.

Response to yodermon (Reply #78)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
85. So what?
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 05:41 AM
Feb 2017

It sure does explain a lot as far as I'm concerned. I thought cenk was just a purity troll, turns out he's getting paid by the opposition - A LOT OF MONEY. And all while he whines about Democrats taking money from icky places. He's a hypocrite. Fuck him.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
96. That right there should PERMANENTLY disqualify him from ANY serious discussion or ...
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 09:08 AM
Feb 2017

... analysis. He's removed his cloak and revealed his true colors and intentions. He's nothing more than a provocateur and divider.

He's a total used car salesman, and people are falling for it. (That doesn't speak very well of his followers. They aren't thinking critically or objectively. They just hear the pied piper playing a song they like ... and tra-la-la-la-la ... they merrily follow along.)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
94. Is it less-true because if its age? I'm glad to learn more about that asshole ...
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 09:01 AM
Feb 2017

... that I didn't know before.

 

dancePop

(54 posts)
103. I'm new to this site.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 12:51 PM
Feb 2017

This thread has me concerned that the people here are more concerned with keeping the status quo than bringing in any kind of change at all. Please tell me I'm wrong.

It would be nice to start winning again instead of continuing to do the same thing over and over and losing all of the time.

yodermon

(6,147 posts)
105. This site has become Underground in name only, sad to say.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 01:50 PM
Feb 2017

It's one thing to support mainstream corporate Democrats; it's quite another to let fly with such vitriol, ad-homimen attacks and mean spiritedness. When that starts, it smells like an agenda.
IMHO, YMMV.

Maru Kitteh

(29,171 posts)
109. Of the 4 posts I've seen from you, 2 criticize DU/DUers and 2 say we can't win Texas
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 02:46 PM
Feb 2017

Is that why you've come here? To tell us what's wrong with us and try to convince us to give up on certain states?



 

dancePop

(54 posts)
112. No. I've got plenty of thoughts that are mostly positive for Democrats.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:30 PM
Feb 2017

I just hope I'm allowed to offer them here.

And, saying we can't win Texas is an opinion. I'm assuming that's ok here. No?

Also, I never said we should give up on certain states. You're putting words in my mouth.

Maru Kitteh

(29,171 posts)
114. I take it from your reply you are not a Democrat?
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:42 PM
Feb 2017

When you say you have plenty of thoughts "for" Democrats it indicates a separateness - like me saying I have plenty of thoughts "for" airline pilots. Hint: I am not an airline pilot.

I didn't say that you directly said we should give up on certain states. You're putting words in my mouth.

 

dancePop

(54 posts)
118. LOL. Not even close.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:21 PM
Feb 2017

I've been a Democrat my whole life. Saying I have plenty of positive ideas for Democrats is the same as saying I have plenty good ideas for my team.

And, you said, 'did you come here to try to convince us to give up on certain states' as if that's what I did. I said we couldn't win there. Those are two completely different things. You absolutely put words in my mouth.

I'm not going to say anything else. I'll let others decide if you did what you say you didn't.

Maru Kitteh

(29,171 posts)
119. Rrrriiiiiiiight.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:39 PM
Feb 2017

Just because you were promoting a narrative that Democrats can't win, who would ever ask if you were trying to convince them to give up?

Maru Kitteh

(29,171 posts)
124. That's cute little alt-fact statement you made there.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 05:11 PM
Feb 2017

"I'm not going to say anything else."

Du-oh!



Thank you for coming to DU to tell us what is wrong, and to let us know that Democrats can't win in Texas. It's very nice of you.



progressoid

(50,767 posts)
123. Welcome to DU dancePop
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:58 PM
Feb 2017

Don't worry about this one thread. Some people carry long grudges.

There are lots of other opinions here.

Blue_Tires

(56,090 posts)
95. That explains the emoprog nutbars like Michael Tracey and Nomiki Konst
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 09:06 AM
Feb 2017

who to this day are still writing Hillary/Perez smear pieces while normalizing Trump and glorifying Putin...

TYT is just another extension of Sputnik now...

bronxiteforever

(9,471 posts)
104. I believe in a more progressive party than we have but I see the complete
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 01:00 PM
Feb 2017

Obliteration Of the US with the present establishment (something Bannon wants).
I have real doubts as to our survival as a functioning Republic in the next four years.
There are times for party purity arguments. Now is not that time. You see in a system where freedom of assembly,freedom of the press,freedom from entangling Russian control over our voting
Rights, freedom of scientific thought is at stake, I don't want a paid off young Turk blowing up the remainder of my party, the last thin line separating us from a dictatorship. If the Bill of Rights is destroyed party purity will have little meaning.
I don't have time for listening to squabbling when the apocalypse is upon us. Join or die as Ben Franklin put it. And by die, they will kill us.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
116. Old news.
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 03:56 PM
Feb 2017

And I frankly agree with TYT more often than not.

Way more often than I agree with neoliberal Democrats.

Of course, Democrats and the DNC NEVER take money from the right.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
117. It's old news
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 04:10 PM
Feb 2017

to point out his republican pals must think the money was very well spent given the amount of time cenk spent crapping all over Hillary. How about cenk not being such a fucking hypocrite whining about corporate money influencing politics while taking republican money and expecting people to believe it doesn't influence him? Or is he just too gosh darn pure for that?

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
126. I think
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 06:01 PM
Feb 2017

he's a hell of a lot more even handed than you are with people who don't take your point of view, to be honest.

It doesn't really matter though. Hate all you like, if that's what makes you happy. I don't think your hate is going to bring anyone but yourself down.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
132. Okay.
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:25 AM
Mar 2017

I'm sure that "dismissal" is why you, instead of "dismissing" him, started a thread about him.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
133. LOL - it took all of 20 seconds
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:29 AM
Mar 2017

to post that thread and maybe 10 minutes to answer anyone who asked something. But you go ahead and call using 10 minutes of my time to point out a sniveling hypocrite hatred. It makes you feel better for some pathetic reason. You seem awfully offended I don't worship at the feet of this man - friend of yours?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,443 posts)
128. This has been my problem with both Ed & Cenk. They go from hardcore rightwing to emoprog without
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 07:53 PM
Feb 2017

batting an eye, and people ate it up. I've never trusted either of them. They're following the money, and if that money calls for them to be an infiltrating rightwing flunkie, we've seen how quickly they can turn on a dime. Can't stand Cenk.

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