Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:35 PM
gulliver (11,385 posts)
Is the word "conservative" about to become a putdown?
The word "Republican" has gone out of vogue thanks to George W. Bush and the Great Recession. One needs look no further than the Tea Party to see a clear example of stout-hearted Republicans running away from their party name and performance. Nowadays, even the most Republican of Republicans knows to sidestep their party affiliation when in polite company. If nothing else, it lets them avoid being asked if they voted for Bush.
The word Republican is toast, but what about the talismanic, argument-settling, self-worth-asserting word "conservative" itself? Have its many unfortunate recent associations with crackpots, serial liars, and flabby, diamond-ring-twisting hegemons finally brought down the last safe right wing word? What will conservatism call itself now that the word conservative is starting to become short for "laughably deranged asshole" in popular culture? There has been a perceptible change in the Zeitgeist. I can't say for sure when it occurred. Perhaps at some point the Tea Party took off its glasses and everyone saw it was just George W. Republican after all. Maybe enough people witnessed Rush Limbaugh twitching on video making fun of Alex P. Keaton's multiple sclerosis. Maybe a critical mass of media consumers noticed that recently Fox News has begun to morph into a culture-wide laughingstock. I don't know when it happened, but the writing is on the Facebook wall. Saying "I'm conservative" these days doesn't mean what it did ten short years ago. The presumption of respectability formerly accorded the words has disintegrated. The good will has dwindled to a puddle. Thanks to the hard work of self-professed "conservatives" like George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and (let's definitely not forget) Glenn Beck, saying "I'm conservative" today is a quick way to lose people. If the trend continues, it won't be long before calling someone a "conservative" will be a putdown.
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gulliver | Dec 2011 | OP |
slay | Dec 2011 | #1 | |
elleng | Dec 2011 | #2 | |
backscatter712 | Dec 2011 | #3 | |
eridani | Dec 2011 | #4 | |
opihimoimoi | Dec 2011 | #5 | |
Bluenorthwest | Dec 2011 | #6 | |
Zorra | Dec 2011 | #7 | |
TroglodyteScholar | Dec 2011 | #10 | |
IDemo | Dec 2011 | #8 | |
TroglodyteScholar | Dec 2011 | #9 | |
Proud Liberal Dem | Dec 2011 | #11 | |
tledford | Dec 2011 | #12 | |
LiberalFighter | Dec 2011 | #13 | |
dawg | Dec 2011 | #15 | |
LiberalFighter | Dec 2011 | #17 | |
izquierdista | Dec 2011 | #14 | |
socialist_n_TN | Dec 2011 | #16 | |
Odin2005 | Dec 2011 | #18 | |
mazzarro | Dec 2011 | #19 |
Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:41 PM
slay (7,670 posts)
1. Always has been in my book
conservatives like to cling to the past and progressives like to progress towards the future.
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:46 PM
elleng (104,645 posts)
2. Has been for a while, I think,
because of its misuse by those you name, and lack of understanding of essential definition:
1. Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change. 2. Traditional or restrained in style. 3. Moderate; cautious. |
Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:51 PM
backscatter712 (26,304 posts)
3. I certainly hope so.
It needs to be made pejorative for the next ten generations!
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:53 PM
eridani (51,903 posts)
4. Not among the committed batshit crazy
The general public, hopefully.
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:55 PM
opihimoimoi (52,426 posts)
5. It already is...they jus don noes it yet....LOL
GROUP OF PHONIES
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:56 PM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
6. It always was the ultimate insult in my opinion.
It implies a dislike of the new, extreme risk aversion, a general complacency and lack of forward motion. Lethargy, parsimony and fear.
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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #6)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:01 PM
TroglodyteScholar (5,477 posts)
10. Don't forget the complete lack of intellectual curiosity.
"I have a simple (if flawed) answer for every question, and time spent actually thinking about it is time wasted."
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 08:11 PM
IDemo (16,926 posts)
8. If "about" means since the era of Tricky Dick, then yes.
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:04 PM
Proud Liberal Dem (20,722 posts)
11. "Conservative" is really a misnomer
in terms of describing most of the right-wing/Republicans nowadays. "Regressives" seem to be a better way to describe them and their policies IMHO as they seem fixated in not only preventing progress but actually taking us ass-backwards to..........well, somewhere I'm pretty sure most of us don't want to go.
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:05 PM
tledford (917 posts)
12. Would that it were so. eom
Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:08 PM
LiberalFighter (41,318 posts)
13. Can we get it redefined in the minds of the public
so they don't want to be associated with conservatives?
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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #13)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:20 PM
dawg (10,053 posts)
15. I think we should try.
n/t
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Response to dawg (Reply #15)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:23 PM
LiberalFighter (41,318 posts)
17. Absolutely
Like reminding them that
Government is not the problem. Republicans are the problem. |
Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:09 PM
izquierdista (11,689 posts)
14. I use it as a synonym for "constipate"
Fortunately a diet high in fiber cures conservatism.....err constipation.
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:44 PM
socialist_n_TN (11,481 posts)
16. From your keyboard to God's ears
or eyes or whatever sensory organs She uses.
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Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:32 PM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
18. About to?
Response to gulliver (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:48 PM
mazzarro (3,450 posts)