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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:35 PM

Name a time (historical event) in which you were the most ashamed of our nation

in your lifetime

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Reply Name a time (historical event) in which you were the most ashamed of our nation (Original post)
gopiscrap Mar 2017 OP
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #1
FiveGoodMen Mar 2017 #4
sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #37
Demonaut Mar 2017 #50
Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #2
nycbos Mar 2017 #3
bunnies Mar 2017 #6
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #8
nycbos Mar 2017 #17
crazycatlady Mar 2017 #5
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #7
Demonaut Mar 2017 #51
crazycatlady Mar 2017 #53
madokie Mar 2017 #64
Vinca Mar 2017 #9
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #12
malaise Mar 2017 #15
Vinca Mar 2017 #18
brush Mar 2017 #106
Doreen Mar 2017 #10
femmocrat Mar 2017 #11
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #14
Demonaut Mar 2017 #52
femmocrat Mar 2017 #91
ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #112
Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #13
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #16
kwassa Mar 2017 #75
chade Mar 2017 #85
randr Mar 2017 #19
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #21
Sunlei Mar 2017 #40
Demonaut Mar 2017 #49
randr Mar 2017 #88
hatrack Mar 2017 #20
gopiscrap Mar 2017 #22
skylucy Mar 2017 #38
Seedersandleechers Mar 2017 #23
miyazaki Mar 2017 #24
NightWatcher Mar 2017 #25
rug Mar 2017 #26
jack69 Mar 2017 #27
Sunlei Mar 2017 #30
jack69 Mar 2017 #46
Sunlei Mar 2017 #47
jack69 Mar 2017 #92
yallerdawg Mar 2017 #28
Sunlei Mar 2017 #29
Demonaut Mar 2017 #54
Sunlei Mar 2017 #65
Demonaut Mar 2017 #66
Butterflylady Mar 2017 #31
Jamaal510 Mar 2017 #32
Demonaut Mar 2017 #60
Jamaal510 Mar 2017 #96
skylucy Mar 2017 #33
MountCleaners Mar 2017 #34
Demonaut Mar 2017 #56
Skittles Mar 2017 #35
Hayduke Bomgarte Mar 2017 #36
rzemanfl Mar 2017 #39
Demonaut Mar 2017 #57
rzemanfl Mar 2017 #61
heaven05 Mar 2017 #41
3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #62
heaven05 Mar 2017 #95
3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #97
heaven05 Mar 2017 #99
3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #100
bravenak Mar 2017 #42
bhikkhu Mar 2017 #43
Demonaut Mar 2017 #58
panader0 Mar 2017 #70
Demonaut Mar 2017 #94
NurseJackie Mar 2017 #44
Initech Mar 2017 #45
Takket Mar 2017 #48
Panich52 Mar 2017 #55
Trailrider1951 Mar 2017 #59
3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #63
StevieM Mar 2017 #67
KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #68
virgogal Mar 2017 #71
KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #103
boston bean Mar 2017 #69
Best_man23 Mar 2017 #72
logosoco Mar 2017 #73
Boomerproud Mar 2017 #74
mountain grammy Mar 2017 #76
kwassa Mar 2017 #77
InformedElitist Mar 2017 #78
kimbutgar Mar 2017 #79
mainstreetonce Mar 2017 #81
muntrv Mar 2017 #80
ghostsinthemachine Mar 2017 #82
TNLib Mar 2017 #83
AngryAmish Mar 2017 #84
Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2017 #86
YOHABLO Mar 2017 #87
liquid diamond Mar 2017 #89
democratisphere Mar 2017 #90
choie Mar 2017 #93
WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #98
VOX Mar 2017 #101
flamingdem Mar 2017 #102
Hugo24601 Mar 2017 #104
jalan48 Mar 2017 #105
GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #107
GReedDiamond Mar 2017 #108
akbacchus_BC Mar 2017 #109
meadowlander Mar 2017 #110
Girl powers Mar 2017 #111
raven mad Mar 2017 #113
Iggo Mar 2017 #114

Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:35 PM

1. torture of Iraqi prisoners and trump voted in

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:36 PM

4. Seconded!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:11 PM

37. I put Abu Ghraib second

Trump is first to me.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:03 PM

50. which one were you most ashamed of?

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:35 PM

2. Now...

and it isn't really close. I've been around since before Vietnam, and Trump takes the prize.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:36 PM

3. Trump.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:37 PM

6. Yep. nt

 

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Response to nycbos (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:38 PM

8. welcome to DU

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:40 PM

17. Appreciate it...

But I was around for awhile before the hack. Couldn't get my old user name back.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:36 PM

5. Trump voted in

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:37 PM

7. welcome to DU

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:04 PM

51. which one were you most ashamed of?

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #51)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:06 PM

53. Probably Newtown

It is bad enough to see 20 children murdered at school, but the GOP (non) response to it is what really got to me.

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #53)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:48 PM

64. What really got to me concerning Sandy Hook

other than what you said was alec jones's conspiracy theory that it never happened and the many who believes him

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:38 PM

9. Trump's win. I never imagined an imbecile could be elected POTUS.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:39 PM

12. he wasn't, they fucking cheated

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:40 PM

15. +1,000 n/t

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:41 PM

18. Good point, but win or lose we're stuck with the asshole.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:20 AM

106. Yep, that cheating bastard trump's "win", also him bringing a white supremacist into the White House

Those are so recent but there are others:

All the non-prosecutions and exonerations of racist cops killing innocent black men

Cheney and Bush not being hauled off to jail for war crimes

Reagan committing treason by colluding with the Iranians to not release the hostages until after his election

Bushco stealing the 2000 election — I could go on and on and on and on, but bringing a white supremacist into the White House is of equal vileness, IMO, of trump and the Russians.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:38 PM

10. November 8th 2016

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:38 PM

11. 2000 election, Iraq war and now. nt

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:39 PM

14. pretty much with you on that

also Watergate and the cover up of the JFK assassination

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:04 PM

52. which one were you most ashamed of?

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #52)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:09 PM

91. I think the war.

I just knew it was a lie from the beginning. Yet everyone was caught up in jingoism and "patriotism" after 9/11. I never trusted bush, rumsfeld, cheney and powell. It made me sick how they tricked the country into supporting their dirty war. It was all awful from the very beginning, but the torture reports were just sickening. I hope they burn in hell for the evil they perpetrated.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #91)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 08:31 AM

112. Interesting You Say That

I was actually at the airport awaiting a flight to Atlanta when i saw the second plane hit the tower while watching Today at the newsstand. I left the airport immediately knowing we were going nowhere that day.

On the way home listening to the radio i remember thinking "Well, somebody's ass is kicked!" I wasn't supporting war, mind you. But, i knew it was inevitable. Then we went to the war with the wrong country and destabilized everything in the mideast.

That's why i'm leaning toward your choice other the current situation. We started a war of aggression, like the bad guys do, against the wrong country because the leadership was the gang that couldn't shoot straight.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:39 PM

13. King Philip's War was a good one

 

I know we were barely a colony, but, hey, the acorn never falls far from the tree

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:40 PM

16. No kidding

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:22 PM

75. Excellent choice. The precedent for much that followed in American history.

King Philip's War (sometimes called the First Indian War, Metacom's War, Metacomet's War, or Metacom's Rebellion[2]) was an armed conflict between American Indian inhabitants of present-day New England and English colonists and their Indian allies in 1675–78. The war is named for Metacomet, the Wampanoag chief who adopted the English name Philip due to the friendly relations between his father and the Mayflower Pilgrims.[3] The war continued in the most northern reaches of New England until the signing of the Treaty of Casco Bay in April 1678.[4]
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The war was the single greatest calamity to occur in seventeenth century Puritan New England and is considered by many to be the deadliest war in the history of European settlement in North America in proportion to the population.[5] In the space of little more than a year, twelve of the region's towns were destroyed and many more damaged, the colony's economy was all but ruined, and its population was decimated, losing one-tenth of all men available for military service.[6]:656 [7] More than half of New England's towns were attacked by Indians.[8]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Philip's_War

This is where the colonists true intention toward the American Indian population became revealed.

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:39 PM

85. In your lifetime, eh?

What's your secret?

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:41 PM

19. When Kissinger scuttled the Paris Peace Accord, when Reagan traded weapons to our enemies

so that Carter would look weak by not getting the hostages released before the election, Reagan inauguration day when said hostages were released as a political stunt, Al Gore and the DNC not putting up a fight to prevent the SCOTUS deciding an election, Bush on 9/11 staring into space foe several minuets, election day '16, Jan. 20, 2017, and each and every day since.

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Response to randr (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:43 PM

21. yup those are also high on my list

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Response to randr (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:16 PM

40. when Reaganwas allowed to union bust, fire 20,000?air traffic controllers- that was a pivotal point

for America.


piv·ot·al
/ˈpivədl/

adjective: pivotal

of crucial importance in relation to the development or success of something else.
"the alliance that played a pivotal role in the revolution"
synonyms: central, crucial, vital, critical, focal, essential, key, decisive
"Japan's pivotal role in the world economy"

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Response to randr (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:03 PM

49. which one were you most ashamed of?

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #49)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:51 PM

88. The last election

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:42 PM

20. Right Fucking Now

And I remember Watergate, Jonestown, Sandy Hook, the last plane out of Danang, Reagan, Chimp pere et fils and that fat cow from Texas at the GOP convention in 2004 with the Purple Heart band-aids on her bulbous chin.

This is worse, by far.

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Response to hatrack (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:43 PM

22. I sort of feel like that also

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Response to hatrack (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:12 PM

38. "Last plane out of Danang"....Thanks for bringing that up. I was in high school and remember being

so shocked at the footage of those poor people trying to escape. I remember a mother practically throwing her baby at a bus departing from the city trying to save her child from what she knew was going to happen. The helicopters etc. being dumped into the sea. The chaos and fear. Horrible.
But I agree with you that the election of Trump is a shame and embarrassment that is like no other. I fear our country as we know it will not survive this.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:44 PM

23. Jim Crow laws

and segregation.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:45 PM

24. 2008 market crash

A ruination of lives and dreams worldwide.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:46 PM

25. Wounded Knee and the genocide of the Native Americans

And shoving the few you didn't kill onto shitty land with zero resources, then years later, coming for the resources under their shanty homes and broken down cars.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:48 PM

26. 1619 - 1865

 

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:49 PM

27. Pre-Civil War, Native American extermination attempts, Jim Crow,

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Response to jack69 (Reply #27)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:54 PM

30. during your lifetime? you're quite elderly :)

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #30)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:40 PM

46. Actually, I am.

Guess that I didn't interpret the question in that way.
That 69 actually stands for the year that I graduated from college, was commissioned in the US army and went into active duty.

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Response to jack69 (Reply #46)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:57 PM

47. oh! Thank God the 'pre civil war' wasn't in your lifetime.

I was worried you were a Vampire!

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #47)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:27 PM

92. Shh, That's supposed to be a secret!

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:50 PM

28. Decent people honestly try to do what is right and good. They may be dead wrong.

This is what makes what happened last November our greatest shame.

There is nothing decent about that man.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:53 PM

29. when 'we' went in to "Free Kuwait" from the group of terrorists who 'took over their town'. They lef

They left in a convoy of cars and trucks, full of them their kids, wives and drove out of Kuwait. Our government bombed the hell out of that convoy and slaughtered them all.

Instead Bush should have accepted the people of Kuwait's 'thanks' and moved out of the middle east. But nooOoo, Republicans had to 'help' the middle east with our Military might, earn billions in PRIVATE profit by war contracts.

And so it was, we're here today 3 or 4 trillion dollars not spent on Americans or America. And millions around the world dead or HATING America.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #29)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:06 PM

54. it was the Iraqi army, leaving with looted goods

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #54)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:48 PM

65. what I was ashamed of was our military acting like that SLAUGHTER was some great victory.

Our government allowed that 'victory' to snowball into so much worse stuff, years of slaughter, wars, torture, revenge attacks.



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Response to Sunlei (Reply #65)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:50 PM

66. it was very ugly...it was very disgusting

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:57 PM

31. Every day since November 8, 2016.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 06:59 PM

32. I can't think of any

historical events during my lifetime that make me ashamed of the country, but I can think of a few that fill me with frustration and anger. A record number of filibusters being issued against the agenda of first Black president, and then a KKK/InfoWars/Russia-backed candidate becoming president after him come to mind.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #32)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:09 PM

60. which one were you most ashamed of?

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #60)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:01 PM

96. Out of those

two, I feel more shame towards having a president who is backed by conspiracy kooks and racists than the treatment of Obama.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:03 PM

33. In my lifetime I have watched great leaders be assassinated (Martin Luther King, President Kennedy,

Robert Kennedy, etc.), Vietnam War, Iraq War, Kent State, Iran Contra,Watergate, etc. etc. But I have never felt the embarrassment and shame that I felt the day that Donald Trump was elected president. It has totally changed the way I think of my country. I wonder if I will ever feel the same about America. I think maybe I am still in denial because I keep thinking there is no way he will stay President for 4 years. But maybe I am just kidding myself.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:06 PM

34. The prejudice against Arabs and Muslims

...and anyone who looks like they might be Arab and/or Muslim - both now and after 9/11.

Also the Tea Party, because they all went online in droves and the whole world can see our nasty xenophobic far right. They're so arrogant they don't even care about being decent global citizens.

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Response to MountCleaners (Reply #34)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:07 PM

56. which one were you most ashamed of?

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:07 PM

35. when the Supreme Court installed their favorite candidate as "president"

it's was SO WRONG and the world has paid DEARLY

now, the world seeing just how many people approve of a racist, sexist, VILE man as president is sickening beyond belief

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:11 PM

36. Right now

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:15 PM

39. 1968, Second Iraq War and every day since the 2016 campaign began.

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #39)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:07 PM

57. which one were you most ashamed of?

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #57)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:11 PM

61. Given aging and each following the other I don't think I can say.

The current situation has me worried in a way I haven't been since I no longer had to worry about Selective Service.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:16 PM

41. taken to

 

and viewing my first hanged person early 1950's. Still see the tongue out, the stained pants where he had wet himself...my father said he's was lucky he wasn't castrated. And I've been ashamed up to this day, hour, minute, second. Such a squandering of a valuable human being(s) in the name of bannons, millers, dukes, sessions, white supremacy, still in force and growing, again. Historically, been said here.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #41)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:41 PM

62. Why on earth did your father...

...take you to see that?

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #62)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:55 PM

95. I was 8 years old

 

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my father had served in WWII and the Korean War. He told me that he was ashamed of people. He told me to NEVER FORGET, a lot of crackers(idiom of the day) did not like Negroes. Why I asked. He said, because you are different from them. I asked how. Because you are a different color. What had this man done, too uppity toward whites was the reason spreading around' the negro' community, to keep that fear factor of the white man active. It took me many years to be unashamed of my color, yeah I became ashamed of my color and when I realized, in my service in Vietnam, fighting rednecks and the VC, and that the white man bled red and was no goddamn superman, I said fuck this shit and became militant as hell for many years. I was angry and full of piss and vinegar and hate. I have moderated because I have found many white people with a conscience on my life's pathways. This is just a short synopsis of the whole incident but it did form a powerful impression and much confusion that took me years to understand.

I got angry today , a friend of mine asked me for a ride. I said Sy where's your car. She said last weekend some white man drove her off the road, her young 3 year old daughter was in the car and she figured he did it because of her HRC sticker. She hit a tree and totaled her car. When she got out she noticed the fuck watching her and then he drove off. The police treated her story with no concern at all. She felt they didn't believe her. The insurance company, probably because of a police reports worded with their skepticism are treating her like she was at fault because of something she did. TRUMP, BANNON, MILLER and DUKE are responsible for she and her daughter almost getting killed.

My father showed me that dead body to show me how evil white racists can be. He said they were evil people that needed to die. And to always be ready to defend ones self against the evil perpetrated by scum like we have in the WH emboldening these assholes that almost killed my friend and her daughter. They are out from under their rocks and have crawled out from the toilets to TRY to get 'their' country all white again. It ain't gonna happen without a lot of death and misery coming on all people.

I'm glad he showed me, no white male has ever intimidated me. My father was a man and made me a man.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #95)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:05 PM

97. Thank you for answering my question.

I am so very sorry that such a lesson was thought to be necessary.

I hope my inquiry was not disrespectful. It was not meant to be.

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #97)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:17 PM

99. No disrespect taken

 

You didn't know why, now you do. I see you 3catwoman3 and assume, yeah I know, never assume...I have 5 cats. They have kept me company for many, many years

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #99)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:23 PM

100. We had 3 cats at the time I chose the screen name.

Then we had 4, then 5, and now back to 4.

If I weren't married, I'd probably have 6. In one of the many animal loving threads here, I once commented that it takes me about 30 seconds to fall head-over-heels in love with a kitten. Someone replied, "Why so long?"

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:17 PM

42. Today. Everyday I'm more ashamed

 

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:19 PM

43. Three come to mind

The Reagan landslide win, which turned me off from politics for many years.
The whole Iraq shock and awe campaign, then the torture and incompetence and long drawn fail of it.
And the rise of nationalist Christian fascism, featuring the worst president imaginable.

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Response to bhikkhu (Reply #43)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:07 PM

58. which one were you most ashamed of?

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #58)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:00 PM

70. Give it a rest pal.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #70)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:48 PM

94. are we pals?

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:20 PM

44. Internment of Japanese Americans

(I won't tell you how old I am, but you can deduce how young I'm not.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 07:22 PM

45. The date of democracy's death: 11/8/16.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:00 PM

48. Trump election

Abu Ghrab was pretty terrible but carried out by a small group. Electing Trump was America's message to the world that 10s of millions of us want the Nazi party to run our country. I knew deplorables were out there but never imaged there were so many. It makes me ashamed that, while they are the minority, these hate filled monsters are still so plentiful.

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:07 PM

55. November 9, 2016

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:08 PM

59. The whole Iraq debacle

From the lies the Bush II administration told, to Shock-N-Awe, to Abu Graib to the present day. WHY ARE WE STILL THERE???!!!

It's the OIL, stupid! The whole damn thing makes me sick to my stomach!

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:44 PM

63. Another vote for NOW.

The potential scope of the damage this man could do to both the planet and its inhabitants is off the scale.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:52 PM

67. When the American people wore Ollie for President buttons and celebrated Oliver North as a hero.

That was a real turning point, looking back.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:52 PM

68. July 4, 1776. Something about "all men are created equal" unless they

 

have black skins (in which case we will enslave them) or lived here before us (in which case we will just steal their land).

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #68)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:12 PM

71. Wow ! You've been around a looooong time.

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Response to virgogal (Reply #71)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:42 PM

103. LOL I missed the qualifier on my first pass. Seriously, thiugh, this country was founded on

 

two great crimes. Trump says MAGA, HRC said "already great" but I say "Never great!"

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 08:53 PM

69. 4 dead in OHIO.

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:18 PM

72. Response (lack of) to Hurricane Katrina

I will go to my grave with the belief W was just fine with letting 1800+ Americans die. I actually felt shame for the lack of response from the government.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:20 PM

73. the accquital of the LAPD officers in the Rodney King beating.

I really thought for sure that seeing that horrific beating on tape would be a huge change for society. Maybe it was for the LAPD, but it did not seem to have the effect it should have nationwide.

(this is just ONE of the things! the first one that popped in my head)

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:21 PM

74. The Little Rock students being screamed at as they entered school.

Oklahoma City bombing (and listening to people calling into radio stations yelling "It's Clinton's fault!".)

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:22 PM

76. I think the first time I felt shame, I was 9, 1957,

my dad was transferred to the Marine base at Cherry Point, NC. First time I ever saw "whites only" and "colored only" signs. I asked my mom what that meant. She was so ashamed, having to explain that to me, and so was I.

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:24 PM

77. Kent State

It was local.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:27 PM

78. these...

I'm alive for almost 40 years but became politically aware on/after 9/11.

3a. 2004 election
3b. Abu Ghraib
2. Katrina response - the heartbreaking footage I have seared into my mind was bad enough for a 3rd-world country, let alone the United States
1. Nov. 8, 2016 to present - by far - because tens of millions of people are not only complicit, but proud of it.

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:27 PM

79. It used to be December 2000 when the supreme court gave the presidency to bush

But hands down, November 8, 2016 was RIP in America. Love, respect, tolerance, equality, intelligence and dignity died in our country with the election of chump.

I have never been so ashamed of my country especially the middle of the country who were hoodwinked by a con man. Hate radio ( clear channel gave him the election).

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #79)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:29 PM

81. You posted exactly what I wanted to say.

2000 was terrible. 2016 was shameful.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:28 PM

80. Bush v Gore.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:32 PM

82. The crack/Iran, Contra, mandatory minimums

Targeting people of color. Most ashamed was I when the President of the United States, GHW, held a bag of crack, bought minutes before on the street in front of the white house by an aide, aloft on national TV proclaiming crack the scourge of America and calling for harsher penalties for crack.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:36 PM

83. Trump election

When your family co-workers and neighbors vote for a mentally ill reality TV star over one of the most qualified candidates, because they don't like that nasty woman, it's embarrassing, shameful and absolutely demoralizing.



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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:38 PM

84. The way Americans...AMERICANS!...Carried on about Princess Di dying

 

Utter disgrace. We caught two wars not to give a shit about those losers.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:42 PM

86. Because he approves of the most shameful things our nation has done

and wants to start doing them again, I have to say the election of pResident Trump.

That Americans have learned nothing from past mistakes, that they don't immediately reject a racist, misogynistic, uninformed, lying, greedy, egomaniacal bully for the position is utterly mortifying.

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:43 PM

87. Let's see, in my life time? So many, that's a hard one.

 

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:51 PM

89. The election of Trump is obvious, so I'll pick another event.

 

The murder of Trayvon Martin. It wasn't just that a racist murdered an unarmed black teen, it was the country's divided response to it. Half of this piece of shit country defended Zimmerman. And to add insult to injury many assholes on this website defended him too. And these weren't newbie trolls. They were long time members with thousands of posts!

Racists killing blacks is nothing new, but that case exposed a lot of people here and in the nation.

I remember President Obama saying if he had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon. Even today whites mock him for that. Whenever the news reports a black man committing a crime, they ask "Is this Obama's son?"

I'm so sick of white racists. They have fucked up this country since slavery and continue to do so.

You don't often hear about such blatant racism in other "advanced" countries like Canada or Great Britain.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:03 PM

90. This second.

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:42 PM

93. Without question

The Iraq War and the commission of torture

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:08 PM

98. RFK Assassination. Nt

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:38 PM

101. The entire blood-soaked year of 1968.

The great and terrible ride that was 1968: Tet Offensive in Vietnam turned the tide of public opinion toward that conflict; MLK, Jr. murdered; riots in numerous major cities; RFK murdered; Chicago police riot at the Democratic convention; Nixon elected ("law and order".

1968, in spite of the great music and arts explosion, was a year that, in the end, pushed the country rightward; many of the issues of that eventful year have remained unaddressed to this day. It was a watershed, but the country turned in the wrong direction.

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Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:41 PM

102. Over a million innocent Iraqis killed

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Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:10 AM

104. Never

But some people have done shameful things, like gitmo.

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Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:13 AM

105. I think when the government gave Native Americans blankets infected with smallpox. Evil stuff.

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Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:40 AM

107. None

Lots of things I am disgusted by and have true hatred for, but overall, shame is not a useful emotion. Guilt can be at certain times although it too can be abused. But shame is something put on me by others.

I hate everything about Iraq II, lots of central and south American actions, the failure to re-up the civil rights act in its entirety after the Supreme Court gutted it.

But shame. None here. I do not do shame.

I do my best to live my life in an honest and upright manner, treating everyone like I want to be treated. When I fall short, as we all do, I accept the consequences and do my best to make amends. I vote my conscience and sometimes my side wins and sometimes it loses. But I refuse to carry emotional baggage for the actions of others.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:49 AM

108. Starting w the Kennedy assassination(s) + Malcolm X, M.L. King Jr...

...etc...the whole Viet Nam War thing...Reagan era Middle East and Central American interventions...the War on Drugs...

These all pale in comparison to what seems to be an all-out abdication to the Russian Oligarchs/Gangsters, thanx to TrumPutin.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:54 AM

109. When the US and its allied countries invaded Iraq, thus creating ISIS!

Please do not tell me that you will not react if a foreign country invade your country and you will sit back! I hated when that happened and the world disliked it too.

We in Canada did not agree with the US and for that, I thank my then PM, Jean Chretein to not get involved in evading a sovereign country.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:03 AM

110. I only have post-1976 to work with

but I would go:

1. Abu Ghraib
2. Muslim ban
3. Katrina non-response
4. Non-prosecution of those responsible for Global Financial Crisis
5. Sandyhook
6. Invasion of Iraq

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Thu Mar 2, 2017, 07:57 AM

111. Ashamed

The inauguration of "Twitler"

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Thu Mar 2, 2017, 06:33 PM

113. Now.

n/t

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Thu Mar 2, 2017, 06:35 PM

114. Donald goddam motherfucking Trump is the actual President of the USA.

Doesn't get any more shameful than that.

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