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babylonsister

(171,023 posts)
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 08:18 AM Mar 2017

Bush's ethics lawyer on Sessions talks with Russia ambassador: 'Good way to go to jail'

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/321936-ethics-lawyer-to-george-w-bush-on-sessions-talks-with-russa

Bush's ethics lawyer on Sessions talks with Russia ambassador: 'Good way to go to jail'
By Brooke Seipel - 03/01/17 10:34 PM EST


Richard Painter, the former White House ethics lawyer to President George W. Bush from 2005 to 2007, blasted Attorney General Jeff Sessions after it was reported that he spoke with the Russian ambassador while Trump was on the campaign trail.

When asked in the hypothetical during his confirmation hearing as Attorney General what he would do if he learned a member of Trump's campaign had communicated with the Russian government over the course of the 2016 campaign, Sessions responded: “I’m not aware of any of those activities ... I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians.”

But the Washington Post reported Wednesday night that Sessions had spoken to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak twice during 2016, once in a private conversation.

Officials said Sessions did not consider his conversations with Kislyak relevant to the lawmakers’ questions and did not remember their discussion in detail. And as a senior member of the committee, he regularly met foreign ambassadors, his spokeswoman said.

Painter blasted the statement on Twitter.




"Misleading the Senate in sworn testimony about one own contacts with the Russians is a good way to go to jail," Painter tweeted.


Painter is now a professor of law at the University of Minnesota.

That September conversation between Sessions and Kislyak took place during the same time intelligence officials have said Russia was interfering with the U.S. presidential election through a hacking and influence campaign.
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Bush's ethics lawyer on Sessions talks with Russia ambassador: 'Good way to go to jail' (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2017 OP
We can only hope that is the eventual outcome Sherman A1 Mar 2017 #1
He purged himself Cosmocat Mar 2017 #7
Yes we can hope he is "purged" from the administration in addition to having perjured. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #9
Eeeeew ... bad enough he perjured himself, but that too ? nt eppur_se_muova Mar 2017 #24
It's like ... littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #26
Emenee. Old timey musical toy instruments. Horns that toot. 😝n/t sprinkleeninow Mar 2017 #30
Fantastic. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #32
I hate autocorrect but sometimes it can be funny. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #27
"I did not have international relations with that country" DinahMoeHum Mar 2017 #2
Lol Luciferous Mar 2017 #3
Wait!?? Sophiegirl Mar 2017 #4
You beat me to it... bluecollar2 Mar 2017 #8
They needed somebody NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #10
So true. nt Sophiegirl Mar 2017 #13
Heh!!!!!! northoftheborder Mar 2017 #12
Someone who can't remember important meetings and details need not be AG. nikibatts Mar 2017 #5
Or who lies about the meeting when he could have just said 'Sure I did, so what' FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #14
Or President as that was the Raygun defense in Iran Contra benfranklin1776 Mar 2017 #29
None of the others met with the Russians...Sessions...you and Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #6
I don't remember who said this but he said, watoos Mar 2017 #11
Judge Judy Scarsdale Mar 2017 #15
Well.. that would be true in a country .. ananda Mar 2017 #16
Yeah, we'll get the Attorney General on this at once. n/t malthaussen Mar 2017 #17
It's always the attempted cover-up that brings these clowns down. Ligyron Mar 2017 #18
At least we only had one day mtngirl47 Mar 2017 #19
Russia was already in the news Buckeyeblue Mar 2017 #20
and get disbarred, too azureblue Mar 2017 #21
Lock him up! Dopers_Greed Mar 2017 #22
This is an amazing deflection: DK504 Mar 2017 #23
and wasn't the other contact DURING the rnc? niyad Mar 2017 #25
Well it's very odd Worktodo Mar 2017 #28
Well said.. speaking of "ethics".. Cha Mar 2017 #31
They have a mission to get rid of everything that gets in their way. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #33
We couldn't make up a more evil, vicious gang Cha Mar 2017 #34
Ethics is the enemy of dictators. So is the press. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #35
I know.. we've seen what truimp has done to those in Michigan, Cha Mar 2017 #37
With these people it would have certainly been a waste of money. n/t Yonnie3 Mar 2017 #36

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. We can only hope that is the eventual outcome
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 08:30 AM
Mar 2017

of what certainly appears to be a deliberate lie to the Senate Committee.

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
7. He purged himself
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:01 AM
Mar 2017

Franken did not even ask if HE had any contact with Russia.

Sessions said it on his own.

He/45s administration/the GOP can weasel around it, but it is clear as day purgery.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,930 posts)
9. Yes we can hope he is "purged" from the administration in addition to having perjured.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:21 AM
Mar 2017

You make a very good point that Sessions turned a general question into a specific question about himself.

He must have felt a very strong need to cover up his meetings with the Ambassador, otherwise why turn the question to point to himself?

littlemissmartypants

(22,516 posts)
27. I hate autocorrect but sometimes it can be funny.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:59 PM
Mar 2017

Happens to me ALL the time! I'm an unintentional joke writer sometimes, myself.

Great point made, Cosmocat.

Never lose your sense of humor. It's a lifesaver.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. They needed somebody
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:40 AM
Mar 2017

to tell them how to get around ethical requirements.

Team Trump just doesn't care about going around requirements - they just plow right through them and give the finger to everybody as they go...

benfranklin1776

(6,443 posts)
29. Or President as that was the Raygun defense in Iran Contra
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:04 PM
Mar 2017

Also his Corrupt AG Meese should have been indicted for perjury.

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
6. None of the others met with the Russians...Sessions...you and
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:01 AM
Mar 2017

Donnie are a disgrace and traitors to this country...helping the Russians destroy Europe and bringing back the cold war. The GOP want to destroy the only war they ever 'won'....assuming they did win it...I have my doubts.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. I don't remember who said this but he said,
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:40 AM
Mar 2017

If you tell the truth, you don't have to worry about remembering what you said.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
15. Judge Judy
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:57 AM
Mar 2017

says that a lot. Jeffrey NO REGARD Sessions is a disgrace. I wonder if he is suffering from the initial stages of dementia, since his memory seems to be fading? Like any of tRump's appointees, he looks like a smug little prick.

ananda

(28,828 posts)
16. Well.. that would be true in a country ..
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 09:58 AM
Mar 2017

.. that actually had a functioning justice system
and not a system of totally corrupt cronyism.

Ligyron

(7,614 posts)
18. It's always the attempted cover-up that brings these clowns down.
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:14 AM
Mar 2017

Why lie? Maybe the Russian Ambassador just popped in to say "Hi". I can't imagine even the Kebler Elf not remembering such an event.

They're trying to pull something here and it won't work.

The GOP may actually have to agree with appointing an independent prosecutor now. Is Ken Starr still alive?

mtngirl47

(987 posts)
19. At least we only had one day
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:23 AM
Mar 2017

to listen to the crap that the administration has pivoted and Trump is now "presidential."

Back to the intrigue and hopefully at this level it will trigger the special independent prosecutor.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
20. Russia was already in the news
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:24 AM
Mar 2017

He knew it was a hot topic. If he regularly had conversations with foreign ambassadors that he instantly forgot about, he should have had someone double check to refresh his memory.

And that's bullshit. One thing these politicans have in common is an excellent memory. They all have excellent recall. It's what makes them able to do what they do.

azureblue

(2,144 posts)
21. and get disbarred, too
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:32 AM
Mar 2017

any attorney who lies under oath will lose their license to practice law. No gray area there at all.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
23. This is an amazing deflection:
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 11:24 AM
Mar 2017

“I’m not aware of any of those activities ... I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians.”

Question was about a hypothectical situation, not a direct question about his potential scheme. That screams illegal activity to me.

Worktodo

(288 posts)
28. Well it's very odd
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 04:32 PM
Mar 2017

Sessions wasn't the leader of the committee, and nobody else on the committee meets with ambassadors-- there is a committee where that's expected but it's not the committee Sessions was on.

That's just Sessions. I think we have to look at the whole group:

Tillerson received a medal from Putin himself.
Flynn and Jill Stein sat at a table with Putin at the RT gala.
Manafort worked with Yanakouvich (who I think is still wanted by INTERPOL and suspected to be hiding in Russia.)
Carter Page is another former advisor with purported ties to Russia.

So it's all just odd. Is there a fire? I don't know but it sure is smoky.


AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
33. They have a mission to get rid of everything that gets in their way.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 06:58 AM
Mar 2017

This says everything we already know about these treasonous crooks and liars.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
34. We couldn't make up a more evil, vicious gang
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 07:09 AM
Mar 2017

of marauders and cutthroats.

I bet authors are thinking the same.

Ethics are for those with principles and who care about humanity.. They don't have time.. too busy lying, cheating, and stealing.

Agador

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
35. Ethics is the enemy of dictators. So is the press.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 10:06 AM
Mar 2017

All dictators lean hard on a free press. Ask all the dead journalists in russia. Smdh....

What is so frustrating is that it is clear as daylight what they are trying to do. I just can't believe there are THAT many stupid people in this country who are blinded whatever it is that motivates them to accept and support this nonsense.

Hi cha!!

Cha

(296,679 posts)
37. I know.. we've seen what truimp has done to those in Michigan,
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 07:26 PM
Mar 2017

Ohio and Wisconsin who voted for him and everyone else. They''re bringing us all down

How Trump thanks Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin Great Lakes Voters


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8740097

Agador

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