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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:12 PM

Oh Shit! The secret of ACA has finally gotten found out!

The Morans over at FR are now having a hissyfit since they 'discovered' that the 'real' reason for ACA is so the gubmint' kin git a list of all yourn names who has gunz and then take 'em away!!


Ammoland ^ | June 28, 2012 | Ammoland.com

Posted on Friday, June 29, 2012 3:02:14 PM by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Led by feckless chief Justice John Roberts, the U.S. Supreme Court today upheld the ObamaCare law by a 5-to-4 decision, with Roberts voting with liberals Breyer, Ginsburg, Sotomayor and Kagan.



While the decision means many harmful things for the American public, the Second Amendment community remains greatly affected, as the law requires Americans’ medical information to be culled and entered into a national database.



Centralizing these medical records will allow the FBI to troll a list of Americans for ailments such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) to deny them their gun rights, in the same way that the Veterans Administration has already denied more than 150,000 veterans their right to bear arms.

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Reply Oh Shit! The secret of ACA has finally gotten found out! (Original post)
COLGATE4 Jun 2012 OP
hifiguy Jun 2012 #1
deutsey Jun 2012 #2
Siwsan Jun 2012 #3
pinboy3niner Jun 2012 #4
BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #5
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #6
Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #7
COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #14
muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #22
Tigress DEM Jun 2012 #8
safeinOhio Jun 2012 #9
lpbk2713 Jun 2012 #10
loyalsister Jun 2012 #11
COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #15
loyalsister Jun 2012 #17
SoutherDem Jun 2012 #12
Hoyt Jun 2012 #13
treestar Jun 2012 #16
Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #18
quaker bill Jun 2012 #19
spin Jun 2012 #20
Dirty Socialist Jun 2012 #21

Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:14 PM

1. Down the rabbit hole straight into the

 

Twilight World of Total Paranoia.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:17 PM

2. Genuises, they are

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:17 PM

3. Is there ANY issue they don't equate to gun control??

There are days I feel like I'm suffering from PTSD, just from working in the corporate world.

Besides, I believe it's already required for medical personnel to report ANY gunshot wounds - self inflicted or otherwise. A slightly better indication of gun activit.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:21 PM

4. The FBI doesn't need their medical records to prove they're crazy

They're flaunting it on Facebook and all over the internets.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:26 PM

5. They were overdue with this wedge issue

after they tried and failed in their war on Women, Gays, and God.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:33 PM

6. Oh cool...

 

they got them secret gun'mint plan, is this part of Gunrunner and Fast and Furious?

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:35 PM

7. The Freeps are geniuses. GENIUSES I tell you! This one figured our Muslim Takeover mission:

 

"The New World Order socialists have paved the way for Muslims to take over large areas of our country."

Folks, it's over. They're on to us.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:16 PM

14. Shhh. They don't know that our planned takeover

is to be done by MUSLINS, not Muslims...

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:17 PM

22. I think I found an even worse one frmo that thread:

It was pretty much over for freedom after the passage of the income tax amendment in 1913, in which Uncle Sam was now privy and partner to every dollar you earn.

Right after that they no longer needed the tax revenue from alcohol sales (made up about 45% of total federal receipts at the time), they passed an amendment outlawing alcohol in 1920, coincidentally the same year they expanded the right to vote to women.


So that genius thinks you should be able to run a government on booze taxes, and obviously looks on women voting with deep suspicion ... But there you go - the USA has been in decline for 100 years ...

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:39 PM

8. With HIPPA, not likely... but it isn't actually a bad idea.

The FBI having a national database that at least tracks criminals across state lines in an effective way that is.

I'm sorry to have to say this, but someone with serious mental health issues shouldn't NEED to have easy access to a gun.

I sympathize though. Since a person can't get hospitalized to deal with their issues unless they meet the criteria of being " a danger to self or others " then gun ownership is often an effective means to proving oneself medically eligible for needed treatment.

I'm sure most of those veterans just want to go out and hunt. Get away from stress or get in some target practice to feel that sense of empowerment. But at 3am when the PTSD sets up a choke hold, having a gun handy could be a fatal mistake.

Then there's the fact that about 80% of the population has faced serious depression and doesn't need instant access to firearms because that is pretty much a real plan and not just a cry for help and the permanent solution for temporary problems is in effect before someone can be talked off the ledge so to speak.

Needless to say the level of anger among the gun toting set has led to so much more murder and mayhem that even as a usually calm and prudent liberal, I've thought of getting a gun myself. NOT to defend against corrupt government agencies that might beat down my door, but to deal with the rethugs who are packing heat and itching to use it.

But I have grandkids and I've never wanted to have dangerous things around them. So the thinking goes back and forth. Which is more dangerous? Having a gun in the house and knowing how to use it or not having it when some raving right winger shows up at my door? Ah, not going to happen. They are afraid to come to my neighborhood. Guess I really don't need a gun after all.

Ramble, ramble.
Tig

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:41 PM

9. I heard the NRA has given

the House republicans a list of NRA members to use in an emergence.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:44 PM

10. Must be a worm planted in their ear by OxyRush or Han-nutty.




They don't usually know what to think or say until they
get the word from their favorite RW Media Hatemonger.


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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:46 PM

11. Riduculous

Even if they were the least bit accurate in the assumption about gathering names, do they want people with schizophrenia to be armed?

PTSD is a mental illness and it is no joke. It terrifies me that my dad sleeps with a loaded gun next to his bed. There was a rule of thumb in our house about not waking him up because he would either be intensely irritable and start yelling or jump up ready to fight if he was startled by it.

I agree that listings about people's health (physical and mental) would be overly intrusive (and that there is no effort in the works to do so)- I am just pointing out how ridiculous their concerns are over someone with PTSD not having access to a gun.

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Response to loyalsister (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:19 PM

15. They're not at all concerned with anyone

with PTSD. Remember - the Rethugs are all for children, until they're born and all for soldiers until they come home with PTSD or all beat to hell. Then... silence is deafening. This is just a handy stick to beat the ACA dog with so people can empathize with the 'poor sufferers of PTSD whose gun the damned gubmint is gonna take away ( as a prelude to taking away everone elses'). False concern, more RW bullshit.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:57 PM

17. I hope they keep bring this BS up

I think even some die hard republicans will want to distance themselves from these conspiracy nuts.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:46 PM

12. NRA

Neuronic Right-wing Activist.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:46 PM

13. Thank god those worthless fools are at least good for laughs.

 

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:20 PM

16. I can agree with the right to bear arms to an extent

Or at least understand the view, but what would be wrong with keeping people with PTSD from having them? They might shoot themselves.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:58 PM

18. People with mental disorders SHOULD be disarmed...

 

I hope to see this become law.

Thanks Freepers!

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:07 PM

19. Absolutely everything is about their ****ing guns.

Any time that anyone does anything in government, it is all really all about taking their guns. Personally I hope they just go broke buying them and stashing ammo for them. Then may they rust in peace.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:11 PM

20. The government probably already knows who has firearms ...

ever hear of data mining?

Counterterrorism Technology: Broadening the Scope of Security Technology

By Alana Chloe Esposito

***snip***

Data mining

Data mining uses statistical models, algorithms, and cluster analysis to transform information such as credit card purchases, travel history, and internet activity into electronically processed data with the aim of targeting suspects and profiling risks more precisely. Increasingly relied upon by both the public and private sectors, it has also become a tool of counterterrorism, and more specifically of predictive intelligence. In this regard, data mining enables Homeland Security officials to identify factors that are likely to indicate great risk, such as whether the person belongs to an extremist group or has ever bought explosives. By assigning these factors a higher weight than slightly less relevant factors such as the individual-in-question’s travel patterns, or internet activity, a formula can be calculated to predict whether the person is likely to be a terrorist. Data mining, in essence, is a predictive analysis technique that helps authorities deal with uncertainty.
http://securitystudiesonline.com/2011/10/10/counterterrorism-technology-broadening-the-scope-of-security-technology/





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Response to COLGATE4 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:16 PM

21. Maybe The Gubmint' SHOULD Take Them Away

Paranoid crackpots shouldn't be allowed to own guns, IMO.

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