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malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 01:56 AM Mar 2017

I for one am sick to DEATH of hearing we can't take back the Congress in 2018...

Oh, the open Senate seats are too weighted against us...; oh, the number of House seat are just too large... -- FUCK all of that. (i'd use the term "pearl-clutcher" here but as that label was lobbed at some here, including myself, who dared to express anxiety pre Nov. 05, I won't).

The one thing #notmypresident has made great again is the resolve of those millions of us who believe in what this country means to the future of the world. We need to reclaim the legislative branch in 2018: No ifs, ands, or buts. Both Houses. Failure is NOT an option!! And then we can Benghazi committee that orange menace and his borscht-slurping minions for all the world to see, and out the treasonous members of the GOP as the Benedict Arnolds that they are.

Think about what the "Tea Party" did in 2010, and then compare the demographics. They are white, old, and slowly but surely slipping away. We are diverse, young, and growing day by day. We have a chance to claim the future for progressive ideals. We could turn this anomaly into the greatest thing that ever happened to this country for its galvanizing effect on us -- the opposition! But if we don't make it happen in 2018......................................................?

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I for one am sick to DEATH of hearing we can't take back the Congress in 2018... (Original Post) malchickiwick Mar 2017 OP
Based on the level of activism I'm seeing Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #1
We gotta keep the pot boiling until 11/06/2018. I believe we can do it!! malchickiwick Mar 2017 #3
Activism is great but the 10 elections since November has had dreadful turnouts yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #25
The Great Vote Myth Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #35
Who says that? Everyone I know is insane with glee about taking it all back. TreasonousBastard Mar 2017 #2
I see a LOT of push back here at DU. Especially when it comes to the Senate. malchickiwick Mar 2017 #4
Alas, DU often has very little to do with the real world... TreasonousBastard Mar 2017 #27
I think we have a slim chance but still, a chance........ Jim Beard Mar 2017 #5
The energy was there among the cletuses in 2010 -- that's my point!! malchickiwick Mar 2017 #7
The House is doable. Anything is better than nothing. dalton99a Mar 2017 #6
BOTH houses are "doable" we just need energy and organization. malchickiwick Mar 2017 #8
The house is very doable. The Senate is an uphill battle because the Democrats have 25 seats to still_one Mar 2017 #9
This is my point. All those states are uphill climbs, but a blue wave can swamp them. malchickiwick Mar 2017 #10
Well, the House is hardly "anything." MoonRiver Mar 2017 #22
Do everything you can to make it happen and democrank Mar 2017 #11
True That!! malchickiwick Mar 2017 #13
It's not impossible- just difficult andym Mar 2017 #12
I actually think we can pull it of if he's between 35-40, though obviously that makes it harder malchickiwick Mar 2017 #14
Of course we can! pat_k Mar 2017 #15
Yes we can. And we WILL! caroldansen Mar 2017 #16
There are 15 house seats in CA,TX,FL, AZ and CO Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #17
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #18
Sorry, but facts still matter. Trust Buster Mar 2017 #19
All you have to do Alpeduez21 Mar 2017 #20
If we don't make it happen we are screwed. Kath2 Mar 2017 #21
We need to start by contesting every race crazycatlady Mar 2017 #23
I have not heard people say that. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #24
If Democrats cannot take back the House in 2018...? kentuck Mar 2017 #26
I'm sick of defeatism. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #28
don't beleive the naysayers...if democrats vote we win congress back beachbum bob Mar 2017 #29
You haven't heard me say that. redstateblues Mar 2017 #30
Rebubs control the districting, the voting machines and the press Orrex Mar 2017 #31
I think we can 100% take the House titaniumsalute Mar 2017 #32
For the Senate edhopper Mar 2017 #33
K & R ...... nt Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #34
In normal times Soxfan58 Mar 2017 #36
It is going to hinge on turn out and Democrats don't vote in midterms. alarimer Mar 2017 #37

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
1. Based on the level of activism I'm seeing
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 02:01 AM
Mar 2017

I'm with you. It seems that being political, which had fallen out of favor, is now seen as cool. I've been surprised by how many 25-35 year olds want to talk about politics and how many watch Rachel. I'm in a deep red area, so it's been a very pleasant surprise.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
25. Activism is great but the 10 elections since November has had dreadful turnouts
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 09:12 AM
Mar 2017

I'd rather the vote then be activists to be honest. At a minimum do both. I don't understand why it's so hard to vote. I remember in November 2015, we had literally 1 question on the ballot and it was about keeping or take away a penny on sales taxes for the county hospital. I went to vote and we kept the penny. The point is I will vote no matter what. Why don't some feel the same???

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
35. The Great Vote Myth
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:06 AM
Mar 2017

Your vote doesn't matter. The government is a gigantic bureaucracy that will do what it wants. There is nothing you can do.

It has been amazingly effective in disenfranchising most of the population. No reason to mess around with voting laws or districts if you can convince people voting is pointless. IMO, a perfect example of learned helplessness.

Three guesses who pushes this myth and the first two don't count.

I really think massive add campaigns to remind people that one person and their vote do indeed count need to be launched ASAP. The Starfish Story is one of my favorites.


http://www.esc16.net/users/0020/FACES/Starfish%20Story.pdf


malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
4. I see a LOT of push back here at DU. Especially when it comes to the Senate.
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 02:08 AM
Mar 2017

But I'd love to see that glee come to fruition Nov. 6 2018. I hope you are right!!

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
27. Alas, DU often has very little to do with the real world...
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 09:16 AM
Mar 2017

Local Democrats here are excited and motivated. Most of us know we were taken by surprise and just didn't work hard enough. Or smart enough.

We're working on that.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
8. BOTH houses are "doable" we just need energy and organization.
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 02:14 AM
Mar 2017

Please, PLEASE, don't write off the Senate just because history says it ain't possible. It's time to wake up from the nightmare.

still_one

(92,138 posts)
9. The house is very doable. The Senate is an uphill battle because the Democrats have 25 seats to
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 02:29 AM
Mar 2017

defend, while the republicans only have 8 seats to defend, and six of them are in Mississippi, Nebraska, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming.

Winning is important, but what the minimum requirement is that we win enough seats in the Senate so we still have the filibuster. That is critical


malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
10. This is my point. All those states are uphill climbs, but a blue wave can swamp them.
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 02:39 AM
Mar 2017

No doubt the House is mathematically much more possible. No dispute. But I am really hopeful for more than that.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
22. Well, the House is hardly "anything."
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 08:32 AM
Mar 2017

It's where Impeachment is done, after all. I'm not young, but I stand with the premise that the youth in our country are the ones to best affect progressive changes. But the elderly are probably going to also rise up and revolt against this cruel administration and the Repuke cretins that enable it.

democrank

(11,093 posts)
11. Do everything you can to make it happen and
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 02:49 AM
Mar 2017

encourage others to do the same. Ignore naysayers. They're always around, but they can't stop you....or progress.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
13. True That!!
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 02:58 AM
Mar 2017

Thanks. I'm so nervous about the energy dissipating between now and then. SO nervous...we need to stay eyes on the prize. It is NOT too much to ask. Thanks for your strength!

andym

(5,443 posts)
12. It's not impossible- just difficult
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 02:56 AM
Mar 2017

because so many House districts are considered safe GOP with large GOP majority of voters due to Gerrymandering. The Republicans would have to be so discouraged as to stay home, and everyone else would have to come out and vote Democratic. If Trump and the GOP Congress hit very high unpopular levels. Less than 30% for Trump for example, then it might happen.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
14. I actually think we can pull it of if he's between 35-40, though obviously that makes it harder
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 03:01 AM
Mar 2017

But you make a great point we need energy on our side and a bit of lethargy on the right will help, but we can't control that. Hopefully the menace himself will take care of that side of the coin. I am all about getting our side energized -- full throttle, because that is the side of the coin over which we have a say. Thanks for your insights.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
17. There are 15 house seats in CA,TX,FL, AZ and CO
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 04:03 AM
Mar 2017

Where even the smallest bump in the Latino and Hispanic vote will be enough to flip the district. Ben Ray Lujan and Tom Perez are the key players leading that effort, so let's hope they can crack that code.

The next 15 are harder but if the greater philly area shows up all of a sudden it's a matter of finding 11 more seats across 45 states. I think not winning back the house would be pretty surprising.

The Senate math is a lot harder. However historically when the house flips the senate tends to flip with it even with a harder map.

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
20. All you have to do
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 07:51 AM
Mar 2017

Is get off your ass and vote. Low voter turn out is what costs progressives the election. Well that and the Dems abandoned the 50 state strategy. If there is a position up for election put a Democrat on the ballot.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
23. We need to start by contesting every race
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 09:09 AM
Mar 2017

This includes state legislatures (some elected in 2018 will be in charge of redistricting), and county/local offices.

If you forfeit a game before kickoff, it will always be a loss.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
24. I have not heard people say that.
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 09:11 AM
Mar 2017

I think we can...the GOP gerrymander make it tougher. But there are seats in districts that went for Hillary...already working on 2018.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
29. don't beleive the naysayers...if democrats vote we win congress back
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 09:20 AM
Mar 2017

that has ALWAYS been the case...and 2018 will be an election like no other as millions more people come out to vote against trump and the conservative agenda

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
31. Rebubs control the districting, the voting machines and the press
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 09:46 AM
Mar 2017

That's not to say that it will be impossible to flip the House and Senate in 2018, but it'll be a longshot.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
32. I think we can 100% take the House
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 09:49 AM
Mar 2017

Senate will be tough. The real prize though is we need to take 4 or 5 GOvernors and some state legislatures/AGs, etc.

Some big Gov prizes would be NJ, Ohio, FL, and Michigan.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
33. For the Senate
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 09:58 AM
Mar 2017

There are 24 Democrats running and only 8 Republicans

So every Dem will have to win and pick up 3 out of 8 Republican seats.

Which States can we pick up from these? (assuming no Democrat loses):



Alabama: Luther Strange (Intent for 2018 unknown) Current age: 63

Arizona: Jeff Flake (Won by 49% in 2012) (Intent for 2018 unknown) Current age: 54

Mississippi: Roger Wicker (Won by 57% in 2012) (Intent for 2018 unknown) Current age: 65

Nebraska: Deb Fischer (Won by 56% in 2012) (Intent for 2018 unknown) Current age: 65

Nevada: Dean Heller (Won by 46% in 2012) (Running in 2018) Current age: 56

Tennessee: Bob Corker (Won by 65% in 2012) (Intent for 2018 unknown) Current age: 64

Texas: Ted Cruz (Won by 57% in 2012) (Running in 2018) Current age: 46

Utah: Orrin Hatch (Won by 65% in 2012) (Intent for 2018 unknown) Current age: 82

Wyoming: John Barrasso (Won by 76% in 2012) (Intent for 2018 unknown) Current age: 64

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
36. In normal times
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 12:11 PM
Mar 2017

But these times are not normal. President dumb ass will hang like mill stone around his supporters in congress necks. But we need to chalage them everywhere, not just blue states.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
37. It is going to hinge on turn out and Democrats don't vote in midterms.
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 01:00 PM
Mar 2017

They simply do not. You can see the dismal turnout for the special elections that have been held recently and it sucks.

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