HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » This is disturbing

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:32 PM

This is disturbing

Maggie Haberman‏ @maggieNYT 1m1 minute ago
Tillerson will miss NATO meeting, travel to Russia in April

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson plans to skip an April 5-6 meeting of NATO foreign ministers for a U.S. visit by the Chinese president and will travel to Russia later in the month, U.S. officials said on Monday, a step allies may see as putting Moscow's concerns ahead of theirs.

Tillerson intends to miss what would be his first meeting in Brussels with the 28 NATO members to attend President Donald Trump's expected April 6-7 talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, four current and former U.S. officials said.

The decisions to skip the NATO meeting and to visit Moscow risked feeding a perception that Trump may be putting U.S. dealings with big powers before those of smaller nations that depend on Washington for their security, said two former U.S. officials...

"It feeds this narrative that somehow the Trump administration is playing footsy with Russia," said one former U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

"You donít want to do your early business with the world's great autocrats. You want to start with the great democracies, and NATO is the security instrument of the transatlantic group of great democracies," he added.


read: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tillerson-idUSKBN16S04I?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

29 replies, 4020 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 29 replies Author Time Post
Reply This is disturbing (Original post)
bigtree Mar 2017 OP
Cooley Hurd Mar 2017 #1
mnmoderatedem Mar 2017 #2
Cha Mar 2017 #3
tblue37 Mar 2017 #4
herding cats Mar 2017 #5
RKP5637 Mar 2017 #6
still_one Mar 2017 #7
Name removed Mar 2017 #8
WinkyDink Mar 2017 #10
Name removed Mar 2017 #12
Johnny2X2X Mar 2017 #9
yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #15
Kingofalldems Mar 2017 #16
Lint Head Mar 2017 #11
Rhiannon12866 Mar 2017 #17
UTUSN Mar 2017 #13
unblock Mar 2017 #14
Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #18
Beartracks Mar 2017 #23
Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #24
Beartracks Mar 2017 #29
NRaleighLiberal Mar 2017 #19
grantcart Mar 2017 #20
SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2017 #22
LudwigPastorius Mar 2017 #21
Vinca Mar 2017 #25
spanone Mar 2017 #26
dalton99a Mar 2017 #27
Initech Mar 2017 #28

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:34 PM

1. I think Rachel's going to ask Adam Schiff about this after the commercial...

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:34 PM

2. this must relate to what Rachel just said

claimed to have breaking news regarding Trump vis a vis NATO and Russia

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:35 PM

3. It's in your face.. and this with an investigation going on

for Russian meddling in a US election.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:35 PM

4. Gosh, they aren't even trying! nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:35 PM

5. It disturbed me when I read it a few moments ago, too.

They don't even care about the optics. I've never never seen anything like this before.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:38 PM

6. Probably going to open the Russian WH! n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:39 PM

7. Well at least Haberman isn't obsessed with Hillary's emails anymore like she was

every chance she had before the election to slam Hillary

Too bad she wasn't as critical toward trump before the election


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)


Response to Name removed (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:45 PM

10. Trump has re-defined "ethical." As in, removed the word from government's lexicon.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WinkyDink (Reply #10)


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:44 PM

9. Basically a signal to NATO

The US is now with Russia. He could have visited Russia any other time, or he could have missed the NATO meeting for any other reason. He is missing it to visit Russia to basically signal the end of US support for NATO.

This is a massive story.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:54 PM

15. It says he missing it for a state visit from china

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:23 PM

16. It can say anything, yeoman6987.

We all know what the real reason is, Trump has sold us out to Russia.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:45 PM

11. Their shit is in your face and they do not care. They think

Trump is bullet proof.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Lint Head (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:15 PM

17. Exactly, he boasted about it when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of NYC

Is that next on his agenda??

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:53 PM

13. Is the whole game about greedy *CASH* or what does PU-TEEN *have* on these dudes?!1 n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:53 PM

14. "playing footsy with russia"?? honey, we're way past that and close to making babies.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:45 PM

18. Trump's downfall is his delusional narcissism

He can't stop until stopped. He needs to be stopped, like straightjacket stopped.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Juliusseizure (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:26 AM

23. So far, his delusional narcissism seems to be working for him.

When will this downfall finally happen?

==================

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Beartracks (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:13 AM

24. It's happening right now

Only two months into his presidency, he's a lame duck under investigation for collusion (treason). His paranoia is only exceeded by that of rational American people fearful ofvhis actions and mental instability. His popularity is at 37%, the lowest of any historically. All his supporters have now is "what's wrong with Russian collusion?". There's a great campaign slogan. "We're with Russia, the former USSR."

Am I missing something? I know it can't happen quickly enough, but there's no precedent in US history where a president has become so politically toxic so early.



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Juliusseizure (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:02 PM

29. No, you're absolutely right.

When I heard downfall, I was thinking actual resignation or impeachment.

================

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:11 AM

19. there isn't a single thing or person in or associated with this administration that is NOT!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:15 AM

20. This is a provocation to sanity


I would like to hear what Senator McCain has to say about this.

This is a big FU to the "Security Wing" of the Republican Party.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to grantcart (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:25 AM

22. I would like to know if there are any R's waiting in the wings ...

From the security wing.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:21 AM

21. Maybe the Trump gang feels the noose tightening,...

and he's there to negotiate their status in their new homeland, after they steal as much as they can in cash and intel and flee the U.S. to evade prosecution.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:16 AM

25. This is really strange.

Either there is no one with even a trace amount of common sense in the White House or Pootie is calling the shots.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:56 AM

26. everything is disturbing about this so-called administration

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 09:02 AM

27. Tillerson has to represent U.S. branch operations at Kremlin Inc.'s executive review meeting

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 09:18 AM

28. But there's no connection between Trump and Russia, they tell us!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread