Palin: 'ObamaCare' a harbinger of things to come, if Obama is re-elected, you will no longer...

[GarroHorus]

recognize the country you love



Faux Snooze link



That "hopey changey" thing has worked out well for me and mine, how's it working out for you, Snow Snooki?

[spanone]

1. she's proudly ignorant and faux thinks she's a genius

[Siwsan]

3. Faux probably thinks she's an ignorant twit, but a USEFUL ignorant twit

She brings in the ignorant twit admirer demographic.

[etherealtruth]

40. + (infinity) n/t

[WCGreen]

2. Snow Snooki.....

crack me right the fuck up........

[GarroHorus]

8. I can't claim credit, saw some other DUer use it

It fits, though.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

21. My first laugh of the morning!

[Wait Wut]

42. !!!

No shit!!

[Patiod]

63. Right up there with "Caribou Barbie"!

Thanks for the Sunday LOL!

[bongbong]

66. Lots of very descriptive names for her

Sometimes I use "Grizzly Grifter"

[DCBob]

4. Good grief.. what nonsense.

I am sick of the media treating this clueless dingbat like she is some sort of political expert.

[trusty elf]

5. I wish that harpy would just.....

[IMG][/IMG]

[BumRushDaShow]

6. "you will no longer recognize the country you love"

She said that 4 years ago. The fact that ilk like her have crawled out from the slime pits from whence they dwell means that I really DON'T recognize the country I love. And if the rest of the excrement like her can be shoved back into the abyss, only THEN will we settle the place down.

Time for them to go back to their 6000 year old home.

[permatex]

7. Every time this woman opens her mouth

it reminds me of what an idiot she is. The only good thing I can say about her is she got Harry Reid re-elected here in Nv. when she endorsed that maniac teabagger Sharon Angle.

[ohgeewhiz]

9. Not laughing here! These people and Faux Snooze are

dangerous. They are listened to by more ignorant Americans than any other network.

This kind of fear worked in previous elections, 2010, 2004, 2000

Karl Rove and Roger Ailes know exactly what they are doing, and what they are doing is using that dingbat to get people out to the polls in 2012.

Perhaps I am the only one who thinks the SC decision is just one more straw to break the camel's back of Obama's re-election chances. If I am, feel free to tell me where I am wrong. But for Obama to win again, we will have to get all the youth, the minorities, and sensible independents who voted for Obama 4 years ago, and the new youth now over 18 as well to get out and vote, particularly in swing states.

Feel free to tell me where I'm wrong about this fear mongering from Fox NOT getting out the low information voters on election day.

[rateyes]

12. oh gee wiz!

How would it have been had the law been overturned?

Obama is going to win in a landslide. You heard it here first.

[GarroHorus]

13. Faux Snooze reaches less than 1% of the populaiton

Its power is way overblown.

[DCBob]

15. Where do you get 1%??

That makes zero sense. Its on almost every TV in public places.

[GarroHorus]

16. The ratings

Maximum viewership for any show is less than 3,000,000 people.

Spongebob Squarepants reaches more people. Many many more.

[DCBob]

17. People who watch Spongebob likely dont vote.

Faux is everywhere that matters and has tremendous influence on voters.

[GarroHorus]

19. You're kidding yourself

They are preaching to the choir.

[DCBob]

22. It affects independents and moderates.

The choir would vote against Democrats no matter what.

[GarroHorus]

24. No, really, it doesn't

You give them too much credit. Anybody predisposed to watch Faux is either solidly wingnut or a progressive keeping their eye on Faux.

The real independents who decide elections do not watch cable news at all except for CNN when some disastrous event happens. And if it's weather related these days, they watch The Weather Channel.

[DCBob]

26. I think you are wrong.. very wrong.

I see it all the time and Im sure it has an impact.

[KharmaTrain]

33. His Claims Have Merit...

As far as the raw numbers. It's pretty simple math. On its best nights faux may reach 3,000,000 people at a single time. That's 3,000,000 in a nation of over 300,000,000. Lately faux's numbers have declined...so their average nightly audience is below 2 million. While that still rules the roost of cable noise...err "news"...it's still behind the number of more "mainstream" channels such as ESPN and Nick.

As far as impact...sure faux does. Not with the vast majority of Americans who are busy working, raising familes, watching the Kardashians and generally tuned out of politics, but with the beltway players. Its where rushpublican talking points are issued and then echoed on hate radio...reinforcing the groupthink that we see in so many of the great unhinged.

Cheers...

[DCBob]

37. Comparing to Nick or ESPN means nothing.

Most of those viewers probably dont even vote.

Faux has an impact, even if subtle, as people sit in the Dr office or at a bar or in the airport and see comments trashing the President and Democrats.

[GarroHorus]

39. Much ado about nothing

If you want to be scared of Faux, be scared. I laugh at their dumb asses. They have no effect other than to rally the base, nothing more.

[DCBob]

43. You laugh at your own peril if you really care about the future of this country.

Faux News and the other RW controlled media are dangerous.

[KharmaTrain]

45. Of Course ESPN Viewers Vote...

That's a pretty blanket assessment. I watch Sportscenter as do many of my friends who not only vote but are active in Democratic party politics. One does not live by Tweetyball and Rachel alone. Then with Nick...there are a lot of parents who watch with their kids. In '08 there were 120,000,000 people who cast ballots...at best all the cable channels draw 3 million viewers on any particular evening. If those people didn't vote why are the SuperPacs spending boatloads of cash with their slime advertising? We don't live in a bubble.

Again, faux does have an impact. Fast and Furious is a good case in point...where it echoed for over a year. It wasn't until the "mainstream" corporate media bit on it that most people became aware. I see hate and religious radio...where the venom is far worse and more under the radar to be more damning...but again...to a small and already brain dead audience.

After all these years if someone is going to want to watch or believe faux, they're a lost cause. I hardly think seeing it on in a doctor's office is going to brainwash someone who isn't already gone...

[DCBob]

47. I said most not all.. I watch ESPN also. Thats not my point.

My point Faux has more impact on voters than ESPN or Nick despite the numbers.

[KharmaTrain]

50. Hard To Prove...

...but it'd be an interesting study. I'd agree among its subset of viewers, faux has a tremendous impact. They're conditioned to the constant poutrages and talking points...and as we saw with the orchestrated teabagging demonstrations it can be used to energize and mobilize. Don't confuse that with actual numbers. And, yes, they did have an influence on the 2010 elections but then there were many Democrats that stayed home. The influence you see...is its second-hand effects where the grumpy uncle who stews all day watching that bile and then passes it along to his bowling buddies...

All in all, the ugly truth is at least 50 million people will vote for Rmoney this year...most voting against their best interests.

[DCBob]

51. Yes, it is hard to prove..

but I guess the best proof is your comment that about 50M people will be "voting against their best interests".

[still_one]

35. the majority of independents and moderates do not watch faux. cable or satellite is not that cheap

for one thing.

However, the other msm they do watch, and though they are not as vile, they still misreport and do not represent two sides of an argument

Most are just parrots spouting repug talking points

[DCBob]

38. yeah, Im sure thats correct.. but they still reach a large number.

and that has an impact.

[treestar]

27. They are below the age of voting

for the most part, I would bet!

Still the point about Faux remains. Though I think CNN is pretty bad now, too.

Faux is on everywhere but it doesn't mean that people are influenced by it.

And some people do watch it without being affected by it. Amazing, but I know people who watch it all the time, but not the pundits and such. And still vote for Democrats.

[DCBob]

29. Of course not all people are influenced by Faux but..

when there is an influence its definitely RW.

[treestar]

32. No doubt. It is obvious they are trying to help the right wing

So that may be that many viewers realize that and take it into account.

I've been in houses where it is on and there are stretches of just reporting, or nonpolitical material, so it may be we are focusing just on when the pundits do something partisan.

[DCBob]

41. Most viewers dont think that deeply.. they just glance at it or hear a few lines..

as they channel surf or when they are at a public place that has it on. Its the subtle impact that is probably the most effective and incidious.

[ohgeewhiz]

58. Ratings are only snapshots of one hour in time

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While it may be true that Fox only has 3,000,000 individual TV sets turned on to a program, there are often 2 or 3 voters, or more, watching it at that time. Then there is the NEXT time, the NEXT day, etc.

True, not everyone watches Fox all the time, but how much does a stupid person need to get their message of fear?

50+ million people voted for McCain/Palin. Do you think any of them will NOT vote Romney this time? Oh, yes, the dead ones won't vote. But still. I'm not convinced Obama has this election in the bag.

[LibGranny]

20. it used to be on in my doctor's office and I would ask the receptionist if she would please change

the channel to MSNBC. I was always polite and she usually complied and now I notice their television is not on Faux news any more.

[DCBob]

25. Doctor offices, dental offices, airports, bars, restaurants, barbershops, etc, etc, etc.

Its everywhere like "Big Brother" brainwashing the masses.

[xmas74]

57. But I have noticed that if you ask most will change the channel.

And if you ask more than once on multiple visits they will usually keep it off, unless someone requests it again.

It's usually turned on because someone once requested it. Doctor and dental offices are just as happy to turn on Disney or Nick, if that's their clientele. And barbershops are usually happy to turn on ESPN-a local shop now leaves it on CBS College Sports.

[DCBob]

59. We as Democrats should do this more often.

I think this is good action plan for all of us from now until election day. It could make a difference.

[xmas74]

65. It's so simple and anyone can do it.

Next time you take your kids to McDonalds and it's on-ask them to turn on Disney. Next time you're at the barber, ask them to turn on ESPN. At the beautician? Ask for E! or the Style network.

It doesn't even have to be a news station. Ask for something that matches the business or the clientele. Recently I was stuck in a waiting room and the television was on. Someone said something about the new Dark Shadows movie and I said the original shows were on Netflix. The receptionist overheard us and said that they had a Netflix account at work. (Easy way to pick appropriate tv shows.) She logged in and put up the classic Dark Shadows episodes for us to watch while we waited. People really enjoyed themselves and there was quite a bit of laughter.

How easy was that? Ask them if they could change the channel, even if it's just to a local channel, like NBC, ABC, CBS or even PBS. Most will willingly do so, since most have on Fox because someone requested it.

[boxman15]

44. Its power is slightly overblown on liberal websites and shows, however it's still very influential

They basically deliver the right-wing talking points and conspiracy theories to about 3,000,000 people per day. Those 3,000,000 people tend to go off and spew the crap they hear to all their friends and family and the misinformation grows all the time because of it.

[DCBob]

48. Good point.

They are like the central disseminator for RW talking points which then gets spread all over to friends, relatives, coworkers etc.

[rateyes]

18. The baggers are not enthused about Romney,

the father of the individual mandate, a pro-choice governor, an outsourcer/offshorer of jobs, a supporter of TARP...baggers never forget, and they never forgive...especially one they see as a traitor, i.e. Romney and CJ Roberts.

Roberts gave them Citizens United, which let them keep Walker in Wisconsin and allowed all ths corporate money, but he will always be known as a traitor to these nuts. Same with Romney.

[BumRushDaShow]

28. The number of Fox viewers have dropped

From 1.9 million in March 2012 to 1.79 million in June 2012.

I.e., a significant loss of viewers in a quarter. This was either through attrition, as more and more drop their cable service (because they can't afford it - and I won't even bother including any who switched instead to streaming because the luddite crowd that watches them don't really do tech outside of forwarding inflammatory chain emails) or through the few "moderates" left who are about to declare themselves "independent" and have had enough.

I think based on both of the above-linked articles, this is what seemed to have prompted CNN to try to capture the viewers who are fleeing Fox. Problem is, CNN has been doing the identical type of distorted, misinformational, sensational, and tabloid-style reporting that Fox is known for, and that is exactly what a good chunk of lost Fox viewers are trying to get away from. And those who have fled or are fleeing, are folks who really don't want to go MSNBC because they still cling to their "conservatism"... but just can't seem to find a more "sane" home.

For these folks, it would be interesting to have a network peopled by the likes of Michael Smerconish, John Batchelor and even someone like Bob Dole - these being some "conservatives" who have eschewed the teahadist inflammatory rhetoric in order to argue a policy point.

[Avalux]

10. She's a master at fearmongering, I'll give her that. She seethes hatred. n/t

[rateyes]

11. OK, who taught her last week

the word "harbinger?"

[BumRushDaShow]

31. Someone wrote it on her hand.

[Skidmore]

14. Sarah, Patron Goddess of Republican Death Panels and Grifters.

I bring a large pile of steaming bullshit to your altar.

[treestar]

23. What is really odd about this is

Failin does not notice that one term did not make America unrecognizable. Is she prepared to explain why a second term is what it takes to make America unrecognizable, and why she did not realize that before (since she made the same claim before)? No, of course not.

[still_one]

30. she is no longer a vp candidate, why does the joke we call a media give her so much coverage? It

isn't even just that, the media go out of their way to cover the most vile and disgusting elements, allowing insane rhetoric to go unchallenged

that cnn and faux both incorrectly reported the courts decision once again shows how sloppy they are

They are an embaressment to first amendment rights

[Marrah_G]

34. I think it is working out fantastically for her

Now the con artist reality show freak can continue raking in the bucks by appealing to the basest fears of the most ignorant of us.

[Dalai_1]

36. Her buzzword for that interview "harbinger" n/t

[Enrique]

60. she must have just learned it

she likes it so much she uses it twice in the same interview.

[Dalai_1]

61. If you can stand to listen to her

Note she has one or two buzzwords she uses the entire time..
by the time she is through she has used them in more ways
than one would think humanly possible...

Someone gives her two words then trots her out for an interview..
a lot like Romney..matter of fact, just like him!

[7wo7rees]

46. Palin a harbinger of no longer recognizing the country I love

[drm604]

49. One can hope.

If the things that should happen actually happen, then yeah the much better country we'd have would be unrecognizable compared to what we have now.

[rufus dog]

52. and as they were cutting away to commercial she screamed

TAAWWWWWWWWWWD, where the hell is the pipe?

TAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDD! Damn it you crackhead where the fuck is the pipe?

[SHRED]

53. "harbinger"...who the hell uses that word?

[tanyev]

54. Shhh, Sarah...the grownups are talking.

[NavyDavy]

55. it will change from the america they love the hateful, whitecentric controlled america.....at least

thats my hope......that we start to become the true melting pot we love to wave at the rest of the world!!

[Turbineguy]

56. Yeah

I'd sure miss those people with their cardboard signs at freeway offramps.

[Marr]

62. FEEEEAAAARRR!!!

You'd think they'd get numb to it, but nope.

I've read a few different things on authoritarian personality types recently, and one of the strongest themes that ran through all of them was the authoritarian followers' essential fearfulness. They're easily frightened, and their leaders certainly know it.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

64. What country does Palin love? The Sovereign Evangelical Republic of Alaska?

What are Alaskan separatists calling their ideal libertarian conservative utopia lately? I don't think conservatives love the country our founding fathers handed down to us along with the Constitution.