Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:50 AM
iluvtennis (18,095 posts)
2016 election and rightful winner - can the Marks vs Stinson ruling be appliedLink to tweet ----- Marks versus Stinson was an elections tampering case that removed the illegitimate office holder and replaced them with the lawful winner - http://www.leagle.com/decision/199489219F3d873_1759/MARKS%20v.%20STINSON
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iluvtennis | Mar 2017 | OP |
Jonny Appleseed | Mar 2017 | #1 | |
Jim Lane | Mar 2017 | #2 | |
iluvtennis | Mar 2017 | #3 | |
Warren DeMontague | Mar 2017 | #4 | |
Jim Lane | Apr 2017 | #5 |
Response to iluvtennis (Original post)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 02:21 AM
Jonny Appleseed (960 posts)
1. Trump's approval rating would need to be under 5 to avoid civil war in that case
Remember that republicans still irrationally hate Hillary Clinton.
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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jim Lane (11,175 posts)
2. No, it can't. Clearly distinguishable.
The general principle -- for choosing a Pennsylvania state legislator or for choosing Presidential electors -- is that the office goes to the person who got the most votes. In Marks v. Stinson, the ruling was that the candidate who had initially been certified as the winner had not actually gotten the most votes. In the states Trump carried, resulting in the election of 306 electors who supported him, those electors actually did get the most votes, AFAIK. Marks v. Stinson would apply only if there were clear evidence to undercut that conclusion, such as proof that voting machines were hacked or, as in that case, that fraudulent absentee ballots were cast.
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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #2)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:23 PM
iluvtennis (18,095 posts)
3. Thank you for the info.
Response to iluvtennis (Original post)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:28 PM
Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)
4. There are only two clear ways Hillary Clinton could become the President.
One, if she runs and wins in 2020, or two, if she runs for the House of Representatives in 2018, we win the majority and she is installed as Speaker, and Trump or Pence or whover is impeached along with the respective VP.
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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #4)
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 07:45 PM
Jim Lane (11,175 posts)
5. Minor correction: The Speaker doesn't need to be a House member
Of course, with or without her running for the House, the whole scenario is indeed wildly unlikely. As you say, time to move on -- for Hillary's admirers and for her detractors.
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