Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:29 PM

Baconator (1,459 posts)

Is the Gorsuch block a calculated risk?

In addition to answering the needs of the base but with full knowledge that Gorsuch will go through in any case.

Rules get changed and now you only need a majority (51).

Do you believe that the party leadership is banking on the fact that they will take control of either the Senate or House in 2018 and block any further appointments?

It's a calculated risk because if they don't gain either one then the next nominee can be even more to the right than this one.

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12 replies	Author	Time	Post
Is the Gorsuch block a calculated risk? (Original post)	Baconator	Mar 2017	OP
If the filibuster can;t be used in this case because...	Adrahil	Mar 2017	#1
The Republicans will use the nuclear option the next time if they don't	doc03	Mar 2017	#2
Can they change the rules back to the old system the day before a democratic senate is sworn in?	Jonny Appleseed	Mar 2017	#3
Sure they could.	mwooldri	Mar 2017	#7
The senate sets the rules before each session	NewJeffCT	Mar 2017	#10
A risk is letting ANY Supreme Court nominee through until we know the full extent of the	still_one	Mar 2017	#4
Its very simple. If you don't approve of the appt you do all you can to block it.	bullimiami	Mar 2017	#5
expecting repubs to honor their agreements/promises is suicidal. roll over and play dead is not	msongs	Mar 2017	#6
Remove the house from the calculation	Loki Liesmith	Mar 2017	#8
They will use the nuke	MFM008	Mar 2017	#9
You're making an assumption...	stopwastingmymoney	Mar 2017	#11
Everything in Washington is a calculated risk...	Wounded Bear	Mar 2017	#12

Response to Baconator (Original post)

Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:31 PM

Adrahil (13,340 posts)

1. If the filibuster can;t be used in this case because...

... of fear it can't be used ever again, then what good is it? So long as the GrOPers have control of the Senate, they can change the rules.

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Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:34 PM

doc03 (32,991 posts)

2. The Republicans will use the nuclear option the next time if they don't

have to this time. What can we lose?

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Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:34 PM

Jonny Appleseed (960 posts)

3. Can they change the rules back to the old system the day before a democratic senate is sworn in?

I wouldn't put it past them after North Carolina.

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Response to Jonny Appleseed (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:00 PM

mwooldri (10,147 posts)

7. Sure they could.

But if they're doing it before a Majority leader Chuck Schumer is sworn in, then the rules can be changed again.

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Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:53 PM

NewJeffCT (56,792 posts)

10. The senate sets the rules before each session

the majority party comes up with the rules each time and they're confirmed by vote of the senate.

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Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:37 PM

still_one (87,272 posts)

4. A risk is letting ANY Supreme Court nominee through until we know the full extent of the

Russian/trump/republican involvement.

The fact is there is at the minimum a 50% chance that this election was interfered with by the Russians, and perhaps done so with the approval and involvement of the trump administration. The argument McConnell used was that President Obama had no right to nominate a SC justice because this was his last term, Trump has no right to nominate SC justices until we know the full extent of the Russian involvement, and if that means waiting until 2020, so be it.

While there is a good chance that the republicans will remove the filibuster because of this, that will come back and haunt them, and they will rue the day they blocked President Obama's SC nominee, Garland, and removed the filibuster allowance for the SC.

What comes around WILL go around. The countries changing demographics, and the self-destruction that the republicans are doing to themselves and the American people, will NOT be forgotten

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Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:38 PM

bullimiami (12,211 posts)