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I saw the video earlier, will look for it to add here. He just walked out, left Pence and company holding their jingle jangles and wondering what the hell do we do NOW ....?
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Adds new meaning to the word, "shamble."
tblue37
(65,218 posts)WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)to describe the very odd way he was walking. I wonder what's causing that? I 'lumber' a bit too when I'm over tired but I have a disability that causes it.
tblue37
(65,218 posts)WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)Phoenix61
(16,993 posts)Louis body dementia. It has Parkinson's type symptoms and paranoia and hallucinations are common. I wondered about it when I saw him having a hard time with stairs. Robin Williams was diagnosed with it.
politicat
(9,808 posts)I have had one grandparent with Lewy body (farmer, extensive 60s and 70s pesticide exposure), and one with vascular dementia (serious sugar-fat addict, who refused to alter her diet to manage Type II, which contributed to/caused the massive inflammation that leads to narrowing arteries). Both were text-book cases, and Tantrump's behavior reminds me far more of my grandmother than my grandfather.
His early symptoms were perceptual changes and balance issues; her early symptoms were irritability, a shortening attention span, and a narrowing of her vocabulary. His attention span remained normal until well into his illness; he did switch from hardwood whittling to softwood, then soap and wax, as his fine motor control diminished, but he continued to carve until very late. He also got big into video games in the mid-stage, which I think was somewhat protective of his hand-eye coordination and attention. He was cognitively sharp enough to engage in card games until his last year, even after he lost a lot of speech. He was a brutal UNO player, even in a family of cut-throat UNO players. His personality and cognition didn't alter much until the late stage.
She was a big novel reader, and then she wasn't. First she switched to magazines, then stopped reading altogether. Her finances tail-spinned at least three times in two years, because she would forget where she put money or forget to record or deposit a check, and her math (never great) went wonky. After she retired from her RN's career, she took on a second career. She had been a talented cook who managed her fraternal organization's kitchen (which served 300+ meals 4 or 5 nights a week) for years. Then that stopped suddenly, and within about a year, she mostly stopped cooking at all, but not before at least two minor kitchen fires. And she was irritable all the time. She picked fights with so many people in those three or four years before the first real stroke that I stopped counting how many people she alienated. I heard her vocabulary contract over the course of the year before her first stroke. She'd get stuck in loops of speech, and sometimes in actions. But she got very charming in that year before the first stroke, too -- she'd always been surface charming (and manipulative -- there's a reason the two of them divorced in the early 60s) but she got more so in that year, because (as I now know, having read the research and done the retrospective) charm covers cognitive deficits. She got increasingly defensive, and she'd get a bee in her bonnet and call somebody early in the morning or late at night just to rant about something. Then deny that she did it, or deny that the person whose head she bit off had a right to be offended. (Early dementia can look a lot like narcissism, and narcissism is not improved by dementia...) Her social skills remained good enough to cover casual observation and even some level of professional evaluation, but her attention and her executive function cratered fast, and her emotional maturity regressed, to the point where she was emotionally about 13 (including being in LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE with a married man who scammed her out of several thousand dollars in the year between the first and second stroke and being totally unable to see why having an affair with a conman was a bad thing).
Tantrump looks a lot like vascular dementia on top of narcissism.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)Lewy Body Dementia.
There are quite a few neurological diseases/issues that can affect ones gait, memory, personality, etc where stress, overdoing and other factors can exacerbate the symptoms.
He's been a narcissistic sexist jerk since I first saw him on a TV talk show in the mid to late 80s pimping, I think it was his first book, with his first wife but he's taken it to a whole new level in the last 9 or 10 yrs.
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)the remarks that were obviously written for him by someone else, he forgot why he was there and wandered off.
politicat
(9,808 posts)He'd read a line, then go off on a tangent. When he was reading, his speech was labored. Sam Bee may not be off-base.
Lebam in LA
(1,344 posts)The weight of the Presidency is taking its toll on him.
DK504
(3,847 posts)He trundles out with unknowing look (as usual) and leaves leaves his business on the table. Is this why all of his businesses have gone bankrupt, he walks off in a Fugue State.
deepcover
(76 posts)Just saw this on All In. He is starting to really unravel. The more pressure on him the better. It won't be long now until he cracks like a nut. You can see he's confused that a reporter would ask him a question he doesn't want to hear, so he just walks out without signing. This might also be signs of dementia.
tblue37
(65,218 posts)father did have Alzheimer's). The stress could be hastening the progress.
I believe Ivanka is there specifically to babysit him and keep him under control. That is also why she sits in on meetings with world leaders.
dchill
(38,441 posts)Approaching total meltdown?
Docreed2003
(16,850 posts)The scariest time of the week for this nation....when Jared and Ivanka are observing Sabbath.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)He just out and out forgot about it.
janx
(24,128 posts)unless he saw something in the crowd of journalists that he didn't like. His retreat was not in response to the question though--maybe in anticipation of it?
kentuck
(111,052 posts)Why is he so sad?
elfin
(6,262 posts)PsychoBabble
(837 posts)SAD! on a grown man.
monmouth4
(9,686 posts)and all that. He hates this job, I think he'll be glad to be out.
ecstatic
(32,648 posts)or be used as an excuse. Remember, he is the healthiest man to ever serve as president. And the smartest.
If he resigns, it will be someone else's fault, of course.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)He was projecting even that!
Wiki:
Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It can take the form of blame shifting.
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)"I'm not a puppet you are" to Clinton - now, we see that Trump is Putin's puppet
"Low Energy" to Jeb Bush and Trump calls it quits by 6:30 each night and spends weekends golfing...
"Crooked Hillary" and we see phenomenal levels of corruption from Trump in only weeks in office.
"Lyin Ted" about Ted Cruz, and yet Trump shatters records for lying, "pants on fire" lies and lives in a different reality.
"Little Marco" - well, we know what that means...
Cha
(296,821 posts)omg.. I think he does!
wow.. thanks for that, yallerdawg
FSogol
(45,446 posts)So he didn't sign HIS executive order? I guess he showed us!
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Not so presidential anymore.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)wiggs
(7,809 posts)spanone
(135,791 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)The depression, lack of exercise, bad eating, etc, will just cascade and spiral him down. He won't survive the year at this rate.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I wonder how much longer they'll be able to cover for his increasingly erratic behaviour?
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)....
tavernier
(12,368 posts)Wouldn't surprise me the Flynn thing has him running scared and a good way to save face and/or avoid further humiliation could be to play ill/confused/senile. I can hear his backers now... "Poor guy tried so hard but they just broke his spirit."
I think he's laying groundwork to be a martyr instead of a criminal.
jalan48
(13,841 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Time to retire and lose 50 pounds golfing. He can't walk properly anymore either.
Cha
(296,821 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)aged 20 yeas in these first 70 days,,,,, its destroying his health.
Cha
(296,821 posts)kytngirl
(99 posts)His mind is fried. He actually thought he could occupy the white house and people would roll over to please him. He believed that. He believed that the America that DIDN'T vote for him, would automatically embrace him and love on him, and just be so thankful for this great white hype. He believed "serving" as president would be a cake walk.
The man is sick. Very, very sick. His family must know that he's mental. He has a wife who prefers living as far away from this clown as she can get. He trots her out every now and then for a photo op and that's it. He doesn't go to NYC to spend time with her and Baron on weekends. He doesn't have her and Baron flown to DC on weekends. No! He goes to his luxury hotel in Florida and golfs for two days.
Something is very wrong with him y'all. I'm tellin' ya! He's crazier than a sh*t house rat!
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)He had been in a meeting and was out in a hallway. He walked like a turkey in the woods. He was bobbing his head back and forth like a turkey strutting. It looked rather strange given where he was. So perhaps some of the speculation that he has some kind of disorder (neurological or other) layered over his narcissism is worthy of consideration. I can not imagine him admitting illness or a health issue unless it is only way out to save face. Given all the other things falling apart around him, being too sick to continue might be his best option and might even generate some sympathy. But given the nasty way he mocked the reporter, I might be inclined to say if he is dealing with a serious medical problem, it is poetic justice. Or karma....
Snarkoleptic
(5,996 posts)Bitch thing is that he's sucked his family into this thing, so who knows how many of them will be locked up for treason.
mnhtnbb
(31,373 posts)He could have arthritis in hips or knees. My grandmother was morbidly obese (as Trump appears to be) and she had that side to side gait
that was probably a function of sore knees/hips.
The stooped posture can be a sign of Parkinson's disease, but Parkinson's gait is more often shuffling.
Lewy body dementia is tough to diagnose and really is only confirmed on autopsy. There aren't any tests
to confirm it, but it is usually diagnosed by a presence of a number of symptoms.
Lots of good info here: https://www.lbda.org/category/3437/what-is-lbd.htm
herding cats
(19,558 posts)Does anyone else notice their faces?
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)in the inevitable shit show of a movie.
It's like looking at the final shots of DeNiro as Jake LaMotta in raging bull
Defeated. Cant get no respect.