Mormon leaders encourage more baptisms for the dead

[yortsed snacilbuper]

"God's plan provides for those blessings to be extended to ancestors who died without an opportunity to obtain them during their mortal lives,"

Ceremonial baptisms occur when a member brings an ancestor's name to a temple. Mormons believe the ritual allows deceased people a way to the afterlife if they choose to accept it. The belief that families are sealed for eternity is one of the faith's core tenets.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mormon-leaders-encourage-more-baptisms-for-the-dead/ar-BBzak0w?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=spartanntp

[tanyev]

1. How about dead pets?

I've got a few names I can send them.

[Tikki]

2. I encourage that the 'text for The Satanic Funeral' be spoken with the name of every

ancestor of anyone who died without an opportunity to obtain these words during their mortal life.
Unless, of course, they don't accept it...you never know... them being dead and all.



Tikki

[leftyladyfrommo]

3. They have been doing that forever.

They got into trouble for baptizing non Mormon dead people whose families found it completely insulting . I think they were baptizing Jews killed in Europe in the 2nd WW.

[joeybee12]

10. Infamously, they baptized Anne Frank nt

[Binkie The Clown]

4. Nothing say "loving justice" like infinite punishment for a finite "sin".

If there was a god, and if this god was actually infinitely loving, then Hitler would have gone straight to heaven. Loves forgives, after all, so infinite love should forgive everything.

[Binkie The Clown]

7. If a person reveals their true character when they are not being watched...

...and Christians believe they are always being watched, it follows that Christians never reveal their true character.

[nolabels]

25. Its also, now a crime to be honest and authentic, people think you are trying to pull a fast one

It does make sense though, people living with a belief of something that cannot be seen or proven would also have imagined ideas about they should or will act and live

[milestogo]

16. But did you see the Dead get baptized?

[cyclonefence]

8. You have to consider

that while they're occupied baptizing dead people, who don't care, they can't be out in the world supporting Donald Trump. It's like a bratty kid crayoning a wall--a desperate mother is grateful it isn't worse, and it does keep the little bastard busy and quiet.

[Foamfollower]

9. That shit is creepy as fuck.

[Mariana]

18. Lots of religious practices are creepy as fuck.

This particular one, at least, is utterly and completely harmless.

[Raster]

27. Unless of course, you're the 15-year old kid...

...being dunked in the water numerous times.

[longship]

11. And they'll keep doing it even though planet Kolob is already too damned crowded.

From horizon to horizon, it's just guys with all their wives, shoulder to shoulder, and more on the way by the next morning.

The place is Hell incarnate.

[killbotfactory]

12. Fear not. As an atheist, I have developed a ritual to unbaptize everybody on earth.

I sit on the couch, drink beer, and play videogames.

100% guaranteed to work.

You're welcome, and no need to thank me for my selfless sacrifice.

[LeftInTX]

13. Catholics pray for the dead

Dead babies are often baptized.
Nurses are allowed to baptize critically ill infants.
(I used to work at a Catholic hospital)

[nini]

21. I was baptized by a nurse

It was a private hospital but my mom wanted it. I fooled them and survived

[Kittycow]

28. I baptized my dog with spit

after I learned about emergency layman's baptism in Catholic grade school

(she was fine at the time so I hope it counted anyway

[nini]

31. Love it

[leftyladyfrommo]

14. I think it is simpler than that.

You can't get into Mormon heaven unless you have been baptised into the Mormon church. They think they are doing people a big favor .

Gentiles (non Mormons) are all stuck in the lowest heaven which is like this earth. Baptised people go to the next highest heaven. Married people sealed in the Temple go to the highest heaven.

[Mariana]

19. As I understand it, they believe

the baptized dead get to decide for themselves in the afterlife if they want to be Mormons. They're not being forced into it. If that is true, I fail to see why anyone would be bothered by it.

As someone already pointed out, the people who are doing this could instead be doing stuff that harms living people in the real world.

[Iggo]

15. And I'm supposed to take these people seriously? Respect their beliefs?

[jmowreader]

20. This screws up a key tenet of the rest of the Christian faith

If it makes Mormons feel better to baptize dead people, so be it. Since accepting Mormon salvation is optional for the dead people it happens to, it's not a huge problem - kinda like a baseball player getting to choose what cap is on his plaque in the Hall of Fame.

"Hello Pope Francis, twenty-five thousand different Mormons baptized you into their faith as soon as you died. Would you like to come in as a Catholic or a Mormon?"

"Catholic is fine. But I do appreciate them thinking of me."

Here's the problem for the rest of the Christian creeds: According to every other church out there, Heaven is reserved ONLY for those who joined the club before they died. Kill 500 people then accept Jesus while you're waiting for your turn in front of the firing squad? Welcome to heaven! Set up a huge worldwide charity that helps 20 percent of the people on this planet, donate your entire worldly fortune to other charities while you're still alive, and eradicate hunger in sub-Saharan Africa, but refuse to accept any imaginary friends? No, sorry, here's your ticket for the Hell Express. (Although if you read The Inferno, you learn that other guy gets to go to the first circle of Hell with the other virtuous pagans...which is nice enough but it just isn't Heaven.)

[leftyladyfrommo]

22. Mormons have a three tiered kind of heaven.

The bottom one is the worst and it is like earth. That is where all the Gentiles go.

The next one up is for run of the mill Mormons. It is better than earth.

The top tier is for the Uber Mormons and it is the best if all.

There is no fiery hell.

[jmowreader]

23. No fiery hell? That must be why the fundamentalist Christians assign Mormons to theirs

How transcendence falls apart:

Most religions have a hell to scare people into church. Everyone who isn't a member of that religion gets to go to it. (Read your Chick tracts: if you don't get to go to Christian Heaven, you get snagged and tossed in Christian Hell before you get a chance to make it to Non Christian Heaven.) But everyone on the planet, regardless of their religious leanings, is a nonmember of a lot of religions. Which also means you're destined to get sent to at least thirty different hells. IF such is the case, then (1) how does anyone get into heaven and (2) if we're all going straight to someone's hell anyway, why join a religion?

[dalton99a]

30. They need to build another tier with luxury suites

with booze and hookers

[Mariana]

24. There's a reason most other Christians don't consider

Mormons to be members of the club. It's just TOO different from the other flavors of Christianity.

[Drahthaardogs]

26. Mormons are not really Christian

Not sure what god they worship, but it is not the God of Abraham.

[CanonRay]

29. On a lighter, genealogical note

This is why the Catholic hierarchy will not open the Church's records to Ancestry.com and other genealogical websites. They don't want the Mormons getting access to baptize dead Catholics. This is slowly changing...I see that old Hungarian baptismal records are now available.

[nini]

32. A cousin of mine had this done for my devout Catholic grandparents

My dad and uncles were NOT happy.

My grandparents died in the 40s and only knew one of their grandchildren and my cousin was not him. I find it so odd someone would make a choice like that for another. Guess it doesn't matter since it doesn't really change anything.

My dad said my grandma would smack him on his head when he met them on the other side LOL