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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:38 PM Apr 2017

Could those NSC lawyers in the White House be charged with any crimes?

For handing over documents to Devin Nunes?

Is it in any way an obstruction of justice?

Or an obstruction of an investigation of Congress?

Who do you think gave them the orders to give Nunes the information?

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Could those NSC lawyers in the White House be charged with any crimes? (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2017 OP
If like to know that as well. onecaliberal Apr 2017 #1
The leakers. Historic NY Apr 2017 #2
Probably not madville Apr 2017 #3
Sounds like somebody is getting too close? kentuck Apr 2017 #5
Trump will pardon everyone. rickford66 Apr 2017 #4
i saw an article saying that using classified info for political purposes was a crime. cheyanne Apr 2017 #6
Yes. They don't have carte blanc. Now, would they, give the Repubs control everting, doubtful. Alice11111 Apr 2017 #7
It will depend on how it was done Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #8
Also, what was the intent of unmasking the documents? kentuck Apr 2017 #9
Nunes is chairman of a committee doing the investigations, jmg257 Apr 2017 #10

madville

(7,408 posts)
3. Probably not
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:53 PM
Apr 2017

If they have the proper clearances and it was accessed on authorized systems in a secure location there probably isn;t anything to charge them with. How would them sharing existing documents be obstruction?

The rumors swirling around this evening are that they were informing Nunes that it was Susan Rice that signed off on the unmasking of Trump affiliated subjects in collected intel. We'll see if it gets confirmed by credible sources tomorrow.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
5. Sounds like somebody is getting too close?
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 12:15 AM
Apr 2017

Does that mean the FISA judges had to sign off on the collection of intel??

They don't usually sign off on FISA warrants without a cause, I have heard.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
4. Trump will pardon everyone.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 12:04 AM
Apr 2017

Then have Pence pardon him. It's a good bet. That's why they don't seem too concerned. They'll steal as much as they can as fast as they can then Shazam. Get out of jail free. To quote Trump, "It'll make your head spin."

cheyanne

(733 posts)
6. i saw an article saying that using classified info for political purposes was a crime.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 12:57 AM
Apr 2017

I'll try to find the article.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
8. It will depend on how it was done
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 06:37 AM
Apr 2017

If it was handed over on secure systems, in secure facilities designed for handling such classified materials then no.

If it was mixed onto unclassified media or systems of the discussion happened outside a SCIF, then possibly.

From a practical standpoint, however, Democrats don't have solid ground to stand on when it comes to demanding prosecution for improperly handling classified materials.

I am also curious if a member of the Senate is authorized to carry classified material outside a SCIF. Just because you have a clearance doesn't allow you to have a briefcase full of classified documents even for something as simple as transporting them from one location to another.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
9. Also, what was the intent of unmasking the documents?
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 06:46 AM
Apr 2017

Was it meant to delay or to distract the investigation? If so, that would seem to be obstruction, in my opinion.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
10. Nunes is chairman of a committee doing the investigations,
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 07:00 AM
Apr 2017

Not just of Russia, but of leaking and unmasking.

The committee invited anyone with infomation related to share it.

If the NSC had lawful access, should be no reason why they couldn't show Nunes in the secure room in the NSC.

Nunes said he could determine the subjects quite easily by discription, if not by name. Seems that is what he had a problem with.

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