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Mensch connecting dots on Putin's Guccifer2, Hostkey (Original Post) flamingdem Apr 2017 OP
"WE just proved the Russians attacked the DNC and state voter databases"?? jmg257 Apr 2017 #1
Mensch is providing new information thanks to the specifics. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #12
"We"? She's full of shit. She isn't involved. This was known. Without her involvement. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #2
I was wondering about that flamingdem Apr 2017 #3
Actually, if you read her blog, you will see the detail she goes into womanofthehills Apr 2017 #5
Why so upset over a woman who is so anti-Trump and anti-Russian who seems to have good intelligence womanofthehills Apr 2017 #4
Thats what hooked me gibraltar72 Apr 2017 #6
She reported in October on the Fisa warrant -- before the BBC, The Guardian, or ANY US media source. pnwmom Apr 2017 #10
Well, where were you when she was doing the grunt work and getting the story ahead of everyone else? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #14
LOL! I post stuff on DailyKos. And I don't waste time posting things I've spent time on KittyWampus Apr 2017 #17
Mensch is doing important work, and in case you didn't know, Mensch is a Republican. sarcasmo Apr 2017 #7
A Tory, or an ex-Tory flamingdem Apr 2017 #8
And the best Never Trump asset we have on the conservative side. Working hard every day still. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #15
from Daily Kos- Louise Mensch is not a Nutter, and she may be the reason why Biglygate is big-league womanofthehills Apr 2017 #9
Unhinged British Witch has ties to Russia. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #11
Good one. dalton99a Apr 2017 #13
Revealing her source of the dossier info, in case anyone doesn't take note of who that is. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #16
I'm still on the fence on this one... RealityChik Apr 2017 #18
The data base transfer stuff is pretty cool. Now jmg257 Apr 2017 #19
I hope she has some security detail Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #20
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Apr 2017 #21

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
1. "WE just proved the Russians attacked the DNC and state voter databases"??
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:15 PM
Apr 2017

I guess she never read the IC report the ICA put out in January. Could have saved her a couple months...

We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence
Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data
obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to
WikiLeaks.

 Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local
electoral boards.
...
In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National
Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016.
 The General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) probably began cyber operations aimed
at the US election by March 2016. We assess that the GRU operations resulted in the
compromise of the personal e-mail accounts of Democratic Party officials and political figures.
By May, the GRU had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
12. Mensch is providing new information thanks to the specifics.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:57 PM
Apr 2017

And the Alfa bank server connection ties this to Trump and DeVos/Prince.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. "We"? She's full of shit. She isn't involved. This was known. Without her involvement.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 09:25 PM
Apr 2017

I now am tending to classify her as a click-baiting loon.

womanofthehills

(8,693 posts)
4. Why so upset over a woman who is so anti-Trump and anti-Russian who seems to have good intelligence
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:12 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:58 PM - Edit history (1)

connections? We need everyone in this fight and she is super smart. She has a big following on Twitter - Joy Reid, John Marshall, Jester, Alexandra Chalupa, Andrea Chalupa, etc. some of her followers. Obviously they don't think she is full of shit.

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
6. Thats what hooked me
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:41 PM
Apr 2017

Some very smart people I respect pay attention to her work. Also she gives credit to others.

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
10. She reported in October on the Fisa warrant -- before the BBC, The Guardian, or ANY US media source.
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:24 PM
Apr 2017

She reported on the probable Nunes connection in the WH on March 27, three days before the NY Times reported the same person.

She isn't a loon. She's a conservative ally, a never-Trumper with connections in the intelligence community because she -- unlike some American progressives -- didn't fall for the traitor Edward Snowden.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
14. Well, where were you when she was doing the grunt work and getting the story ahead of everyone else?
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:02 AM
Apr 2017
It is easy to attack others. Show us your intelligence and investigative reporting instead. Oh yeah, you've done nothing by comparison, right?

Please explain why we should care who you post personal attacks against.

Election day: FBI has FISA warrant for Trump secret server connected to Russia.
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
17. LOL! I post stuff on DailyKos. And I don't waste time posting things I've spent time on
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:19 AM
Apr 2017

here on DU cause it would sink like a stone.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
8. A Tory, or an ex-Tory
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:45 PM
Apr 2017

but yes to your point.

She did post in favor of Gorsuch the other day. That was honest at least.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
15. And the best Never Trump asset we have on the conservative side. Working hard every day still.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:13 AM
Apr 2017

Remember, the #TrumpRussia dossier is the product of conservative opposition research, and it helped launch the FBI investigation.
Send a thank you note to Jeb Bush.

Follow her and note the interesting retweets






womanofthehills

(8,693 posts)
9. from Daily Kos- Louise Mensch is not a Nutter, and she may be the reason why Biglygate is big-league
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 11:08 PM
Apr 2017
Louis Mensch has some connection to Biglygate via the depth of the current FISA warrants. She only comes to this place perhaps because like the Golden Shower dossier, the intelligence community often triangulates on the truth, if even unintentionally, and with collateral consequence.

But where it gets interesting is that the WH rogues brand her a nutter, and which she now apparently is not, making the WH rogues a part of the cover-up…

However, it seems increasingly clear that Mensch landed an extraordinary scoop that had eluded the best investigative journalists in the US.
Her explanation is that her vocal advocacy on behalf of UK and US intelligence agencies since former NSA contractor Edward Snowden’s revelations about mass surveillance led her sources to trust her…

RealityChik

(382 posts)
18. I'm still on the fence on this one...
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 02:17 AM
Apr 2017

Her work is indeed engaging and if nothing else, thought provoking. But phew! What a drama queen!!! Maybe a bit of a narcissist, herself. She gets VERY defensive when people challenge her ideas or don't agree with her point of view.

She's a good place to start if you're on a deep dive for information on an issue she covers. She has some really good credible sources, but she tends to embellish sometimes. In the end, I figure if John Schindler, Adam Khan and Scott Dworkin are citing her work, I generally accept her work as, at the very least, plausible theory.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
19. The data base transfer stuff is pretty cool. Now
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 03:12 AM
Apr 2017
https://teapainusa.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/data-patterns-suggest-trump-towerspectrum-health-ran-a-stealth-data-machine-with-russia/

Prove collusion.


Trump/Spectrum operatives and employees in the United States could interact with this list and have no clue the origins of the data were nefarious. This plain-sight approach was the key to its success.
...
Pain’s working theory is that Russia created a voter targeting database with information gleaned from hacked DNC data rolls and other data rolls “acquired” from other states to feed this growing contact database. That database originated at Russian Intelligence which was in turn replicated to Russia’s Alfa Bank. This is where the “data laundering” takes place, Alfa Bank is the pivot point where the FSB’s data fingerprints are wiped clean. Ironically Russia launders its data at the same place it launders its money.

In New York Trump Tower could merge data into this system using various legal sources as well. Spectrum Health could also add value to the data by matching names and addresses in their extensive healthcare databases to harvest email addresses and phone numbers to flesh out this list. All these changes would be promptly replicated back to Russia in a matter of hours.



Alfa Bank supposedly owns Cambridge Analytica. trump legally hired CA to help his campaign. Micro-targeting is THE whole point of the company, so so far there is nothing illegal.

Connecting info databases makes great sense if that was what was going on. Surprised it wasn't linked to Kushner's San Antonio data center (mentioned in Forbes).

Someone has to show trump, Manafort, and/or Kushner etc. KNEW that Alfa Bank aka CA was getting (illegally obtained) data from Russian State Intelligence. Seems Mensch has supplied a good cover for the the server connection stuff without proof of collusion.
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