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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,128 posts)
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:18 PM Apr 2017

No. I'm sorry. I still don't trust Trump. Nor do I trust Bannon is being "sidelined" here.

On the surface, yeah, it's great that Bannon got booted from the NSC table.

But we're talking about a guy who has never had any trust in administrative institutions anyways. He's expressly said so himself.

So he loses his chair at the NSC? Big deal. He's still the Madman's chief policy advisor. He's still going to have top security privileges. He's still going to be whispering in Trump's ear, issuing statements on his behalf, doing all the things that make him Steve Bannon.

Steve Bannon's a cockroach. And if there's anything we know about cockroaches, it's a) they're disgusting, b) they thrive being underground and hidden, and c) they're very hard to kill.

I'm not trying to be a Negative Nancy here. But I don't see this as being all that earth shattering, no more when Roger Stone got "kicked off" Trump's campaign.

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No. I'm sorry. I still don't trust Trump. Nor do I trust Bannon is being "sidelined" here. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 OP
No need to be sorry the defrauder in chief is a liar, nothing he says is to be trusted ever uponit7771 Apr 2017 #1
I agree oldtime dfl_er Apr 2017 #2
They are all complicit in what is happening in Syria, not Obama, not anyone else asiliveandbreathe Apr 2017 #3
On that matter, color me skeptical about Haley's Kabuki dance at the UN. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #5
Haley's remarks are probably Putin-approved cover The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #10
Again, good assessment. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #12
Totally agree Tommy..we are in some deep chit - especially with reports of russia asiliveandbreathe Apr 2017 #14
Agreed Freethinker65 Apr 2017 #4
Does he keep his security clearance? I think so HAB911 Apr 2017 #6
Me neither. I think McMasters probably insisted on it The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #7
I think that's a good read on things. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #9
I understand. But the good news here is that trumps unity is falling apart piece by piece its caroldansen Apr 2017 #8
Trump is selling out to the establishment already. mr_liberal Apr 2017 #11
I agree with you. LisaM Apr 2017 #13
I just got home and heard the news. I assume it's probably because the few sane Vinca Apr 2017 #15
Agree get the red out Apr 2017 #16
Cockroaches like to do it in the dark dalton99a Apr 2017 #17
he is as disgusting as a roach too. bdamomma Apr 2017 #19
I'm right there with you! Pacifist Patriot Apr 2017 #18
I'm with you Tommy... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #20

oldtime dfl_er

(6,930 posts)
2. I agree
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:20 PM
Apr 2017

It just means that Jared is attempting to sideline Bannon. The infighting will destroy them all anyway.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. They are all complicit in what is happening in Syria, not Obama, not anyone else
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:20 PM
Apr 2017

but trump and his evil empire....Kushner - et al...

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,128 posts)
5. On that matter, color me skeptical about Haley's Kabuki dance at the UN.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

Words are cheap. Compliance with Russia isn't.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,520 posts)
10. Haley's remarks are probably Putin-approved cover
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:24 PM
Apr 2017

to protect Trump domestically, trying to make it look like he and SCROTUS aren't really in bed together.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
14. Totally agree Tommy..we are in some deep chit - especially with reports of russia
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:27 PM
Apr 2017

on the door of the Baltics..and Syria gassing it's own people...assad needs to be removed - with the UN and NATO pushing him out....this goes for Russia as well..this advance needs to be stopped..trump and co needs to be indicted - for treason..if they can't get treason..RICO will do!!

Carl Bernstein and this mercenary Prince guy - I do believe Carl is onto something...referencing this Miller guy..and Carl on cable...

Tks for all you do Tommy

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,520 posts)
7. Me neither. I think McMasters probably insisted on it
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:23 PM
Apr 2017

("He goes or I go!&quot because Bannon was likely interfering in a weird and damaging way. SCROTUS couldn't afford for McMasters to quit (if he did threaten that) because he's one of the few people in his cabinet who has real credentials and is generally respected. So my theory is that he agreed to take Bannon off the NSC to appease McMasters, and put him to work in some lower-profile but equally insidious and destructive capacity.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,128 posts)
9. I think that's a good read on things.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:24 PM
Apr 2017

Hell, I wonder if Bannon himself suggested he'd be sidelined from the NSC after getting static from McMasters.

caroldansen

(725 posts)
8. I understand. But the good news here is that trumps unity is falling apart piece by piece its
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:23 PM
Apr 2017

being broken apart. And what happens when a boulder gets broken into tiny little pieces.You can pick them up and throw them out.

Vinca

(50,233 posts)
15. I just got home and heard the news. I assume it's probably because the few sane
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 12:29 PM
Apr 2017

people in the administration must be threatening to quit. Given the current state of the world, Bannon should pack his bags and go back to the far right blogosphere.

bdamomma

(63,774 posts)
19. he is as disgusting as a roach too.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 01:26 PM
Apr 2017

yes, he may be out but not down. I would love to see some wicked eating of their own soon. Especially between Kushner and Bannon.

Wounded Bear

(58,571 posts)
20. I'm with you Tommy...
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 01:33 PM
Apr 2017

in some ways this might be worse. Burying Bannon out of sight in the bowels of the administration allows him to work his evil in the dark.

Won't be safe from him until he's fully out of the WH and the adminstration.

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