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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:56 AM Apr 2017

10,000 Ranchers Oppose Trumps Stupid Wall

Unlike Trump, I guess they know the price of rope!

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/04/03/10000-conservative-ranchers-just-came-trumps-wall/

10,000 Conservative Ranchers Just Came Out Against Trump’s Wall
By Benjamin Locke - April 3, 2017

Thousands of Conservative Texas ranchers and landowners may have voted for President Trump but they just announced that they are adamantly opposed to his planned border wall.

The Texas Wildlife Association (TWA), representing about 10,000 members, who manage 40 million acres of ranches and hunting leases, says they support efforts to stop illegal immigration but the Trump plan makes no sense as presented.

“We just see so many problems,” TWA Chief Executive David Yeates told the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram.

Those include years of legal battles over the use of eminent domain to take ownership of the privately held land; interrupting access to water from the Rio Grande River for landowners, their livestock, and wildlife including black bears, mountain lions, deer, bighorn sheep; destroying the scenic beauty of nature in many places; and doing other damage to the environment. ................
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10,000 Ranchers Oppose Trumps Stupid Wall (Original Post) L. Coyote Apr 2017 OP
Amazing how eminent domain can change peoples' outlook. Paladin Apr 2017 #1
I have absolutely no sympathy for these trump-suckers. LenaBaby61 Apr 2017 #11
"How do ya'll like me now?" SUCKAS! sprinkleeninow Apr 2017 #23
Too fucking bad. I have no empathy for these assholes. Lochloosa Apr 2017 #2
Aaaaaand who did THEY vote for? hatrack Apr 2017 #3
The same Texas ranchers are now having trouble getting help to work on their ranches too. Botany Apr 2017 #6
Trump's impact on workers affects the entire economy. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #20
There's one Trump voter that found her house will be on the Mexican side. Kablooie Apr 2017 #4
She might get better health care now. rickford66 Apr 2017 #16
How do you accidentally build your house over on the Mexican side of your land? SticksnStones Apr 2017 #21
I Didn't Read It That Way ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #24
As I saw it, her property is on a bend in the river. BarbaRosa Apr 2017 #29
Thanks ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #40
Well, Trump did say --that the wall facing the US would be beautiful. riversedge Apr 2017 #36
Apparently Texas has to cede the Rio Grande Horse with no Name Apr 2017 #27
The Trump wall is a very stupid idea Gothmog Apr 2017 #5
So, where did they think the wall was going to go if not on their property? I bet they thought chelsea0011 Apr 2017 #7
On the border, down the middle of the Rio Grande. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #8
Can You Imagine the Cost, If. . . ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #25
Typical conservatives. Dawson Leery Apr 2017 #9
Everything is bigger in Texas ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #10
Both Hillary AND Trump told people who Trump was Lucinda Apr 2017 #12
Will they be voting Democrat in 2018 and 2020? Orrex Apr 2017 #13
Whose land did they think it was going to be built on??? Vinca Apr 2017 #14
They voted for him and now they're stuck with him. kstewart33 Apr 2017 #15
But we're stuck with him, too. LisaM Apr 2017 #17
So true. kstewart33 Apr 2017 #19
Trump openly commented numerous times how wonderful eminent domain was/is. boston bean Apr 2017 #18
Oh boo boo kitty DK504 Apr 2017 #22
Waiting for the next shoe to fall exboyfil Apr 2017 #26
Upset only because this directly affects them. JHan Apr 2017 #28
drumpfanov is building a monument to his legacy. drumpfanov's wall of shame democratisphere Apr 2017 #30
Who's going to issue passports to the cattle and all those sheep? Throck Apr 2017 #31
Elections have consequences. Crunchy Frog Apr 2017 #32
Google a map of Big Ben National Park--it is HUGE... riversedge Apr 2017 #33
Anyone who has driven across West texasknows this ideais insane. Rope. $8.00 L. Coyote Apr 2017 #34
Good I hope these ranchers can get their way.....Trump is ignorant... onecent Apr 2017 #35
F Them. Completely. JDC Apr 2017 #37
9950 Ranchers don't want what they voted for... Egnever Apr 2017 #38
Have fun, assholes! Aristus Apr 2017 #39

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
1. Amazing how eminent domain can change peoples' outlook.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:00 AM
Apr 2017

I have absolutely no sympathy for these trump-suckers.

Lochloosa

(16,061 posts)
2. Too fucking bad. I have no empathy for these assholes.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:01 AM
Apr 2017

They should have listened to his speeches.

Idiots.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
21. How do you accidentally build your house over on the Mexican side of your land?
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:15 PM
Apr 2017

While I'm empathetic to these landowners plights...you had to think positioning your house in Mexico would come back to haunt you at some point...

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
24. I Didn't Read It That Way
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:42 PM
Apr 2017

I saw the article yesterday, but i got the impression she has riverfront property and the plan is build the fence a certain distance from the river. So, she would still be in Texas but the fence would be north of her house.

Pretty sure i got that right.

BarbaRosa

(2,684 posts)
29. As I saw it, her property is on a bend in the river.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:51 PM
Apr 2017

Rather than follow every nook and bend in the river the fence will follow a straight line. So her property is an peninsula in nowhere land, Mexico across the river and USA on the other side of the fence.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
40. Thanks
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 07:52 AM
Apr 2017

Yeah, that's what was said. I didn't remember the exact detail.

Since the fence estimate is alreay $250 per inch, can you imagine the cost of if they did follow every nook and bend? It would double.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
7. So, where did they think the wall was going to go if not on their property? I bet they thought
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:40 PM
Apr 2017

the wall would be built on Mexican land. Dumb asses.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
8. On the border, down the middle of the Rio Grande.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:46 PM
Apr 2017
Sometimes it is just wrong to attribute thinking to some people.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
25. Can You Imagine the Cost, If. . .
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:43 PM
Apr 2017

. . .it was down the middle of the river? The current proposal is already $250 an inch.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
13. Will they be voting Democrat in 2018 and 2020?
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:57 PM
Apr 2017

No? Then they can go fuck themselves and the horses that they rode in on.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
15. They voted for him and now they're stuck with him.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 01:39 PM
Apr 2017

No sympathy or empathy. They helped put in charge of this country, an unstable, immoral con man. They're reaping what they've sown.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
19. So true.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 01:52 PM
Apr 2017

Which makes me even less empathetic with these guys. They're not like many Trump voters who are jobless in dying towns. They were and are desperate. I understand how desperation can make people vote for a convincing con man who promises them exactly what they most need, even when they have reservations about him.

But the ranchers? No.

boston bean

(36,218 posts)
18. Trump openly commented numerous times how wonderful eminent domain was/is.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 01:50 PM
Apr 2017

These persons deserve no sympathy for their own ignorance in believing he meant nothing he said.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
22. Oh boo boo kitty
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:22 PM
Apr 2017

Are they going to start crying now? Poor poor babies, to stupid to actually pay attention to the shit spewing from the orange asshole. They would never believe he would screw them ASAP.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
26. Waiting for the next shoe to fall
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:48 PM
Apr 2017

The very cheap leased land for ranching (that some ranchers refuse to pay anyway). I guess I am all for selling that land off to the HIGHEST BIDDER.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
30. drumpfanov is building a monument to his legacy. drumpfanov's wall of shame
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:52 PM
Apr 2017

is a fitting reminder to the horrendous administration that destroyed our democracy and country.

riversedge

(70,078 posts)
33. Google a map of Big Ben National Park--it is HUGE...
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 03:08 PM
Apr 2017



I spent 2 days camping there about 7 years ago . Such beauty should not be fenced off.


.............."“If you take away access to the Rio Grande,” added Yates, “you take away the water for 50,000 acres of irrigated farmland, not to mention the drinking water for cattle and migratory path for wildlife.”

The group is also offended by what they see as the stupidity of the plans for Trump’s wall along the Mexican border. For instance, the Big Ben National Park, which has over 801,000 acres, represents about 1,000 miles of the Southern border, in the Lower Rio Grande Valley. It is sparsely populated and is the home of hundreds of specials of birds, reptiles, and animals, many protected by law..........................

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
39. Have fun, assholes!
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:09 PM
Apr 2017

I don't like eminent domain any more than you do. But if it happens to you, don't come running to me for sympathy...

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