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The John Roberts-Anthony Kennedy Smackdown
Posted on July 1, 2012 by emptywheel
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But in this closely-watched case, word of Roberts unusual shift has spread widely within the Court, and is known among law clerks, chambers aides and secretaries. It also has stirred the ire of the conservative justices, who believed Roberts was standing with them.
It was around this time (in May) that it also became clear to the conservative justices that Roberts was, as one put it, wobbly, the sources said.
The two sources say suggestions that parts of the dissent were originally Roberts actual majority decision for the Court are inaccurate, and that the dissent was a true joint effort.
The fact that the joint dissent doesnt mention Roberts majority was not a sign of sloppiness, the sources said, but instead was a signal the conservatives no longer wished to engage in debate with him.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/2102-3460_162-57464549.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody
http://www.emptywheel.net/2012/07/01/the-john-roberts-anthony-kennedy-smackdown/
freshwest
(53,661 posts)OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Unless they were making their daily pilgrimage to Glennbeckistan.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 2, 2012, 02:39 AM - Edit history (1)
An insane, fascist theocracy:That was in 2004 and this is why we worry.
There are some who hopeful to avoid such a catastrophe repeating itself in 2012, because of this map from 2008:
Unfortunately, we don't have the post 2010 election map which gave the GOP enough state houses to put us back in 2004, or even 2000. So, we worry.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...keep pissing him off.
- The crazier you act, the closer to the ''correct side'' he'll sidle-up to.......
K&R
freshwest
(53,661 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Because they had believed Ike had found them a ''safe Republican'' to sit on the court. That is until Brown v. Board of Education.
- Then they were all....
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)The right wing - always standing against what's good for our country!
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...and they reacted so strongly that Earl jumped all the way in -- and in my opinion that was a very large part of the reason why so many civil rights laws were eventually upheld in his courts. All during the 50's his court made rulings radically changing laws against using force and threats in obtaining ''confessions'' by the police (it was common back then). Then came the Escobedo (right to a lawyer) and then the Miranda Rule (notice that what someone says to the police can and will be used against them). And the poison fruit rulings from illegal police searches, not to mention all of the challenges to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the voting Rights Act. Struck down laws against inter-racial marriage in 1968. All in his courts came rulings bolstered civil liberties all during the 60s.
The old Repukes never for gave him. And they paid the rest of us back by giving us Richard Nixon. And by extension, the Bushes. But back then, a lot of the middle, most of the right-wing and definitely the hardcore John Birchers never trusted him anyway. He was like "a California Republican" (land of the fruits and nuts as they said at the time, as I recall).
- We can only hope that John Roberts chooses to emulate him.....
''History doesn't repeat itself, but it can rhyme.'' ~Mark Twain
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)on a stupid message board a few years ago they all claimed democrats were opposed to civil rights, as though that let them off the hook for their morally repugnant views. Of course, they always brought up race (the liberals rarely did) and of course, when they did it was to say 'that's not racist' about just about anything under the sun. What was astonishing to me was how ignorant they were. They weren't aware of Nixon's southern strategy that appealed to the white racists and changed the southern democrats to southern republicans. Nor were they aware of how much work had to be done after Brown v. Board in order to enforce de facto integration (as opposed to de jure, which did indeed order). Or at least they claimed ignorance. Some were clearly old and clearly politically aware. But isn't it funny how they seem to have amnesia in hindsight? Like they'd say 'I didn't really think the Iraq War was good.' Or, 'I didn't really like W. Bush.' Or 'I didn't really oppose integration.'
I'm hoping years from now they'll be saying 'I didn't really oppose health care reform.' Especially 'I didn't really oppose single-payer.'
MindMover
(5,016 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)Expect the usual suspects on your ass in 1...2...3...
Edit: Actually, the title is somewhat offensive even to me. Would you please change it?
zoechen
(93 posts)Kennedy goes down in flames and Roberts saves the ACA.
One might get the idea that cats and dogs can indeed coexist.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)That's what I'm hearing.
Rex
(65,616 posts)A 'conservative' debating! ARF ARF ARF!!!
They would have to learn how to first and since all the GOP knows how to do is fuck up everything, when will they find time to develop critical thinking skills? We all know that GOPukers have no higher brain functions - they only know three things; eat, fuck, and kill.