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Seems like those Bombs are setting off some Gaslights. (Original Post) LaydeeBug Apr 2017 OP
+1000000000 Pachamama Apr 2017 #1
The Russia collusion investigation will still be there in another day applegrove Apr 2017 #2
I'm not falling for it. Rachel Maddow did a great opening segment that compared political underthematrix Apr 2017 #3
Fareed Zakaria will have to answer to history sharedvalues Apr 2017 #4
Can't believe after zentrum Apr 2017 #5
I don't understand why some people are saying that. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #6
Problem with the T attack zentrum Apr 2017 #11
What coup..was what I was asking. The Syrian people's coup? The U S coup? Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #12
I wonder..... pangaia Apr 2017 #9
Oh the gaslighting scheme is already out there ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #7
let's hope you're right. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #8
Keep it coming sis malaise Apr 2017 #10

applegrove

(118,595 posts)
2. The Russia collusion investigation will still be there in another day
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 12:15 AM
Apr 2017

when the US bombing of the Syrian airbase is no longer the issue. If anything Russia looks like a bad player as they had agreed to make Syria get rid of all chemical weapons.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
3. I'm not falling for it. Rachel Maddow did a great opening segment that compared political
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 12:15 AM
Apr 2017

leadership histories of Iraq and Syria. Trust me the details matter. I didn't get any TrumpRussia today which is why I watch her.

It looks like the US will descend into civil war soon. How would we feel if Syria started dropping bombs on us you know to help us get rid of all those homegrown terrorists.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. Fareed Zakaria will have to answer to history
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 01:09 AM
Apr 2017

What he said about presidentiality today is craven, war cheerleading, and harms America.

Plus, stupid.

Tell the truth about the stooge in the White House who collided with Russia openly by asking for hacks, Fareed. You're doing a disservice to the American people with this war cheerleading.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. Can't believe after
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 01:31 AM
Apr 2017

...all the phony wars that have bankrupted us over decades that these same pundits fall for it again and again. They are useless, shameful.

It is a coup.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. I don't understand why some people are saying that.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 01:44 AM
Apr 2017

It's not unusual for our country to retaliate against another for an inhumane act or a war crime. The chemical attack in Syria was especially horrendous.

What coup?

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
11. Problem with the T attack
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 11:40 PM
Apr 2017

Many of the reasons have now been posted and discussed on DU, but in case you haven’t seen them:

America is the cause of most of the instability in the Mideast. We don’t understand the countries there, don’t respect the religion, and yet keep intervening to destabilize their governments. (This has been tragic for Iran and Iraq). Not sure ISIS and other extremists would even exist if we had never exercised our imperial ambitions in the area. 45 has gone ahead and further stirred up a hornet’s nest with no understanding of the ramifications.

He informed the Russians before the strike and they told Assad and by the time our missiles arrived all the useful targets had been shipped out. This makes it a phony, PR stunt.

The day after the US strike Assad airplanes bombed the same city, using the same planes and airstrip that had been used to drop the chemical weapons. As a result the people who had been chemically harmed are now in worse, not better condition.

As an article in Vanity Fair says, "Assad’s taunting Trump by quickly reopening Shayrat Airfield leaves the White House with a dilemma. For one, the symbolic nature of the administration’s attack has apparently emboldened Russia. In the immediate aftermath of the attack, Moscow said it plans to buttress Syria’s air forces, and announced that it would suspend an agreement between the U.S. and Russia, intended to minimize the possibility of in-air collisions. [This could lead to a kind of war with Russia]

45’s ratings have been hovering between 34% AND 39%. It is a well-known tactic for Presidents to go to war at such times to appear strong and to give a dose of adrenaline to nationalistic supporters, to get the bad stories off the front page and make a big show. You’ve heard of the movie "Wag the Dog”?

As Obama explained last year in the Atlantic:

It was his administration’s “assessment that while we could inflict some damage on Assad, we could not, through a missile strike, eliminate the chemical weapons themselves, and what I would then face was the prospect of Assad having survived the strike and claiming he had successfully defied the United States, that the United States had acted unlawfully in the absence of a U.N. mandate, and that that would have potentially strengthened his hand rather than weakened it.” It now appears that is precisely the situation confronting President Trump.


This is why we all distrust so much this huge PR event coming out of 45. Plus, it cost millions but seems to have hurt the very people it was supposed to help. It was cynical as hell.

And could open us up to Trump impulsively putting us into a ground war.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
9. I wonder.....
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 07:23 PM
Apr 2017

Do they fall for it, or do they or their masters smell more KACHING? Blood and violence on the telly sells even more than the weather.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
7. Oh the gaslighting scheme is already out there
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 01:51 AM
Apr 2017

Several sites are running it. Just looked at the Newsweek site. It may take a few days for it to sink in, but I bet next week's newscycle is going to be inundated with this, especially with the Pentagon story.

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