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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeems like those Bombs are setting off some Gaslights.
Do not let them frame the fucking narrative. This is not normal.
This is a coup.
Pachamama
(16,886 posts)applegrove
(118,595 posts)when the US bombing of the Syrian airbase is no longer the issue. If anything Russia looks like a bad player as they had agreed to make Syria get rid of all chemical weapons.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)leadership histories of Iraq and Syria. Trust me the details matter. I didn't get any TrumpRussia today which is why I watch her.
It looks like the US will descend into civil war soon. How would we feel if Syria started dropping bombs on us you know to help us get rid of all those homegrown terrorists.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)What he said about presidentiality today is craven, war cheerleading, and harms America.
Plus, stupid.
Tell the truth about the stooge in the White House who collided with Russia openly by asking for hacks, Fareed. You're doing a disservice to the American people with this war cheerleading.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...all the phony wars that have bankrupted us over decades that these same pundits fall for it again and again. They are useless, shameful.
It is a coup.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's not unusual for our country to retaliate against another for an inhumane act or a war crime. The chemical attack in Syria was especially horrendous.
What coup?
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Many of the reasons have now been posted and discussed on DU, but in case you havent seen them:
America is the cause of most of the instability in the Mideast. We dont understand the countries there, dont respect the religion, and yet keep intervening to destabilize their governments. (This has been tragic for Iran and Iraq). Not sure ISIS and other extremists would even exist if we had never exercised our imperial ambitions in the area. 45 has gone ahead and further stirred up a hornets nest with no understanding of the ramifications.
He informed the Russians before the strike and they told Assad and by the time our missiles arrived all the useful targets had been shipped out. This makes it a phony, PR stunt.
The day after the US strike Assad airplanes bombed the same city, using the same planes and airstrip that had been used to drop the chemical weapons. As a result the people who had been chemically harmed are now in worse, not better condition.
As an article in Vanity Fair says, "Assads taunting Trump by quickly reopening Shayrat Airfield leaves the White House with a dilemma. For one, the symbolic nature of the administrations attack has apparently emboldened Russia. In the immediate aftermath of the attack, Moscow said it plans to buttress Syrias air forces, and announced that it would suspend an agreement between the U.S. and Russia, intended to minimize the possibility of in-air collisions. [This could lead to a kind of war with Russia]
45s ratings have been hovering between 34% AND 39%. It is a well-known tactic for Presidents to go to war at such times to appear strong and to give a dose of adrenaline to nationalistic supporters, to get the bad stories off the front page and make a big show. Youve heard of the movie "Wag the Dog?
As Obama explained last year in the Atlantic:
It was his administrations assessment that while we could inflict some damage on Assad, we could not, through a missile strike, eliminate the chemical weapons themselves, and what I would then face was the prospect of Assad having survived the strike and claiming he had successfully defied the United States, that the United States had acted unlawfully in the absence of a U.N. mandate, and that that would have potentially strengthened his hand rather than weakened it. It now appears that is precisely the situation confronting President Trump.
This is why we all distrust so much this huge PR event coming out of 45. Plus, it cost millions but seems to have hurt the very people it was supposed to help. It was cynical as hell.
And could open us up to Trump impulsively putting us into a ground war.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Assad's coup? What coup?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Do they fall for it, or do they or their masters smell more KACHING? Blood and violence on the telly sells even more than the weather.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Several sites are running it. Just looked at the Newsweek site. It may take a few days for it to sink in, but I bet next week's newscycle is going to be inundated with this, especially with the Pentagon story.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)malaise
(268,885 posts)Rec