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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:59 AM Jul 2012

Commentary: 'Obamacare' will be good for the U.S.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/07/02/154408/commentary-obamacare-will-be-good.html#storylink=omni_popular

Posted on Monday, July 2, 2012Modified Friday, June 29, 2012

James Werrell | The Rock Hill Herald

U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina is not happy about the Supreme Court’s decision regarding the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, commonly known as "Obamacare."

Soon after the ruling was announced, Wilson spit out an email caterwauling about the “government health care takeover bill.” He recalls how “the president and his liberal allies shoved an extremely unpopular 2,000-page bill through both chambers of Congress.” He rails that “we should have health care based on a doctor-patient relationship rather than a politician-patient mandate.”

You remember Wilson. During a 2009 joint session of Congress where President Barack Obama was outlining his health care plan, Wilson pointed at the president and shouted, “You lie!”

Well, in this case, Wilson is doing the, uh, dissembling.

The Affordable Care Act is not a government takeover of health care. It was expressly designed so that Americans would buy insurance from private insurers unless they are poor enough to qualify for Medicaid.

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Commentary: 'Obamacare' will be good for the U.S. (Original Post) NNN0LHI Jul 2012 OP
Obamacare goes one step further by allowing states to implement single payer and subsidizing it... uponit7771 Jul 2012 #1
This is an excellent point. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #2
savings plus economic development. mopinko Jul 2012 #4
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #3
Repugs lying? lark Jul 2012 #5
The rethugs ALWAYS leave out the insurance companies BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #6
My fear is the Democrats will abandon this opportunity to educate the public.... Swede Atlanta Jul 2012 #7
Excellent point Swede. xtraxritical Jul 2012 #9
will AndySipowicz Jul 2012 #8
Yes NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #11
Yup, and to do it you'd have to make them exempt from the income requirements TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #12
Agreed; hopefully Dems won't miss this chance to make sure correct information gets out! Brooklyn Dame Jul 2012 #10

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
1. Obamacare goes one step further by allowing states to implement single payer and subsidizing it...
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:07 AM
Jul 2012

...with federal funds..

After states start seeing the savings they'll go along and our HC system will start to look like the provincial one that the UK implements

BumRushDaShow

(128,823 posts)
6. The rethugs ALWAYS leave out the insurance companies
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jul 2012

as the "middleman". Always. It's breath-taking how their talking points purposely fail to mention the insurance bureaucracy that currently decides on the care or non-care vs any doctor.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
7. My fear is the Democrats will abandon this opportunity to educate the public....
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 12:42 PM
Jul 2012

Opponents of the ACA are already on the attack with broadcast, online and print campaign.

If Obama and the Democrats fail to respond and actually tell people what this bill does and what it doesn't do, I'm afraid the election will become a referendum on the ACA and not on the overall vision of America.

If the Rs can frame this as an election about "freedom" versus "government mandates", Obama will lose.

We have no time to spare. I hope someone is developing a strategy to counter the misinformation from the right.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
12. Yup, and to do it you'd have to make them exempt from the income requirements
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 06:46 PM
Jul 2012

so they come in and buy (I assume) unsubsidized but at exchange rates platinum plans and life goes on.

On second thought, I would tend to bet they actually carry their Federal Employee cost support and maybe pay like nothing or a little over. At worst, it is the same but it is probably a little better deal.

Unless we can all get platinum plans for a fraction of our incomes (especially when the pay is just a piece of one's income anyway) then we aren't ever really going to be in the "same boat", if it matters then it is way down the list if concerns. It seems like a visceral but ultimately pointless focus created by unwillingness to accept on some level, that no matter how you arrange the room it is about connections and the control of money. Everything else is window dressing to try to paper that over.

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