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Mon Apr 10, 2017, 02:11 AM

Is it theoretically possible or in any other way possible?

Do you remember when trump said on national television that he could shoot somebody and not lose any votes. He didnt say and people would still vote for him because they wouldnt. He said he would not lose any votes. The bible says out of an abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. Someone posted about two weeks ago that trump was using bots before the election to email or in some other way persuade people to vote for trump. My question is in this day and age of hackers, russian or otherwise could the voting machines have been hacked to have bots vote for trump hundreds of times or more from the inside?

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Response to caroldansen (Original post)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 02:14 AM

1. Let's put it this way: If you think something like that is impossible...

you are probably wrong.

Still doesn't mean it actually happened though.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 02:28 AM

5. Thank you politic averse for your thoughts and post.

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Response to caroldansen (Original post)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 02:17 AM

2. He wouldnt have lost any votes if bots voted for him. He

only would have lost votes if people voted for him.

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Response to caroldansen (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 02:21 AM

3. I know that people were dumb for voting for trump. But I still dont believe that

that many did. Obama was well liked. And yes disliked by republicans. But it would make more sense if bots actually did vote for him.

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Response to caroldansen (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 03:07 AM

6. Many people voted for him.

You might not want to believe that, but sadly, it's true.

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Response to caroldansen (Original post)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 02:27 AM

4. I don't think MANY MORE VOTES were tabulated in this election compared to previous ones.

I believe that fact alone debunks the use of bots. If there had been a lot more total votes cast you'd be right, but that didn't happen. It's the same old uninformed voters who believed the Con's BS.

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Response to caroldansen (Original post)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 07:54 AM

7. Voting machines

 

A big concern for us all is old crummy voting machines in Detroit,Milwaukee,Philadelphia,and what's the Democrats plan to replace or test out these machines?Ive heard of no plan to address this issue.Many ballots laying on the ground in Wayne Co.,and from what I've read 87 voting machines went out of service on Election Day ,let alone fewer polling places.

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Response to Dink123 (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 08:52 AM

8. First, a warm welcome to DU...

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:45 PM

10. Voting machines in 3 metro areas.

 

Glad to hear about the voting machines in PA and the replacements coming for the Detroit machines. I'm much happier now,so let's run a strong Progressive and win .

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Response to caroldansen (Original post)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 10:06 AM

9. I will only speak for PA but it is effectively impossible to hack the voting machines here

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Most of them are old Elect-Ronic machines from the 80s. No external connections and generally not programmable. It would take physical tampering with each and every machine. Plus PA has a ledger at each polling place, the difference between the number of voters that signed the ledger and the number of votes would be noticed immediately.

Edit: thinking about it, with a few additions, these old machines are a good template for future voting machines. Keep them simple, robust, and completely locked down by design. Just add a paper record printout and maybe even a receipt for the voter.

Edit 2: to explain for those who aren't familiar, the names of the candidates aren't even programmed in. They are on a large paper printout (about 2' x 3') that goes over a grid of buttons. Voter selects their picks (a light goes on for each) and presses the big green vote button to finalize and record. The machine beeps to confirm and attendants are near to make sure no one votes twice. The machine doesn't record the vote as 'Trump', it just counts how many people selected each option/button and gives totals. No programming involved, so lower hacking risk

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Response to caroldansen (Original post)

Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:48 PM

11. In many states, yes its perfectly possible.

 

There are many videos online showing exactly how some of these machines could be hacked. It doesn't require bots.

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