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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 06:44 PM Apr 2017

Dan Rather on Spicer's remarks...

https://www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10158496956680716


Dan Rather
2 hrs ·

It is with sadness that I do not know where to begin. Today in a briefing, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer issued a statement that is so far beyond the pale, so tone deaf and blind to history and our precarious moment in world affairs, that it is with only a heavy heart that I even bring attention to it. There can be no joy in such incompetence.

In trying to make the case for the Administration's policy in Syria and vis a vis Russia which is confused to be generous, and wildly chaotic to be more precise, Mr. Spicer said, “We didn’t use chemical weapons in World War II. You know, you had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons.” He continued, “So you have to, if you are Russia, ask yourself: Is this a country and a regime that you want to align yourself with?” When asked to clarify, Mr. Spicer said, "“I think when you come to sarin gas, he (Hitler) was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing.” Mr. Spicer went on to mention "Holocaust centers," in an apparent reference to the Nazi concentration camps.

This line of rhetoric is so unhinged, so amateurish, so lacking in the context and perspective necessary for statesmanship and diplomacy that I do not see how Mr. Spicer can be allowed to continue in his current position. But in the end, this is less about him and more about an Administration that is inserting itself in a civil war and now is plunging into a drastic reformulation of American foreign policy without any clear sense that they have a plan. When you try to explain such a situation, it is understandable that your words don't make sense.

A bar, already set low, continues to drop.
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Dan Rather on Spicer's remarks... (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2017 OP
Well said Dan Rather malaise Apr 2017 #1
So who's left? DK504 Apr 2017 #10
+++ agree iluvtennis Apr 2017 #21
"A bar, already set low, continues to drop." NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #2
"so unhinged, so amateurish"... perfectly describes the whole Trump admin. nt procon Apr 2017 #3
Kicking for the truth. democrank Apr 2017 #4
I have one disagreement with Rather. Where he says the bar, already set low, Amaryllis Apr 2017 #5
Spicer arranged to make his remarks during Passover. Is it a nod and a wink to the Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #6
no, these guys are not that clever. ginnyinWI Apr 2017 #8
That's my take, too Cha Apr 2017 #23
Spicer sounds like a 7th grader's essay written the night before it's due. Beartracks Apr 2017 #7
Reminds me of the time know-nothing Bush Spokesperson Dana Perino said that she asked Akamai Apr 2017 #9
history? we don't need no stinking history. pansypoo53219 Apr 2017 #11
Even Bluto would facepalm Xipe Totec Apr 2017 #12
No bar too low, once again. ananda Apr 2017 #13
I hope the idiots in the West Wing keep him on. Ilsa Apr 2017 #14
an administration that knows nothing of history. spanone Apr 2017 #15
Will be forced to repeat it. El Mimbreno Apr 2017 #25
Trumps HAS to surround himself with idiots to make himself look smart. vkkv Apr 2017 #16
It isn't working. nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #22
Whoever said, "Ignorance is bliss" wasn't on the receiving end of it. nt El Mimbreno Apr 2017 #24
VERY well put! FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #28
Spicer is perfect for Trump. mahannah Apr 2017 #17
Lawrence O'Donnell‏ tweeted "Sean Spicer is a profoundly stupid liar working for a LuckyLib Apr 2017 #18
The bar i heading... 3catwoman3 Apr 2017 #19
KICK ailsagirl Apr 2017 #20
That sums it up quite nicely Lotusflower70 Apr 2017 #26
"A bar, already set low, continues to drop." bora13 Apr 2017 #27

DK504

(3,847 posts)
10. So who's left?
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 08:07 PM
Apr 2017

We still got Dan Rather, Brian Williams is a joke, we have Rachel, but she's a bit reigned in by the mega-corp she works for. Joy is doing very well, they still let MHP go, they fired Keith, Phil every single person that EVER put those shits at MSNBC.

Of course we always have Wolfie and Shep to really shake things up, right? Who the hell will tell the truth beside the web?

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
5. I have one disagreement with Rather. Where he says the bar, already set low,
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 07:42 PM
Apr 2017

continues to drop: wrong. There IS no bar with these people. Having a bar would indicate some ability to discriminate between acceptable and not. They have no concept of that. Another example of living in the alternative universe of FAUX and ilk.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
6. Spicer arranged to make his remarks during Passover. Is it a nod and a wink to the
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 07:43 PM
Apr 2017

Is it a nod and a wink to Bannon's alt-right? They are deserting tRump because of his "foreign adventurism".

Beartracks

(12,797 posts)
7. Spicer sounds like a 7th grader's essay written the night before it's due.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 07:47 PM
Apr 2017

No thesis, no time, no clue...

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Akamai

(1,779 posts)
9. Reminds me of the time know-nothing Bush Spokesperson Dana Perino said that she asked
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 08:02 PM
Apr 2017

her husband what the Cuban Missile Crisis was, because she didn't know herself.

And she had been spokesperson at that time for a long time, day in and day out.

ananda

(28,834 posts)
13. No bar too low, once again.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 08:27 PM
Apr 2017

Rather is well spoken here, and it is a very sad day for us
in so many ways.

LuckyLib

(6,817 posts)
18. Lawrence O'Donnell‏ tweeted "Sean Spicer is a profoundly stupid liar working for a
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 09:37 PM
Apr 2017

profoundly stupid liar."

Nails it.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
26. That sums it up quite nicely
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 11:07 AM
Apr 2017

"A bar, already set low, continues to drop."

And yet still excuses are made and things are dismissed. When lies are called out, it is not taken seriously or viewed as whining. There is so much corruption that things are being allowed to just slide. It's disgusting.

bora13

(860 posts)
27. "A bar, already set low, continues to drop."
Wed Apr 12, 2017, 01:37 PM
Apr 2017

this bar is attached to hydraulics and will lower into the ground.

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