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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRobert Reich on MOAB
Robert Reich (Facebook)
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What the hell is going on? The Pentagon announced today that U.S. forces in Afghanistan dropped a 22,000-pound GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb (MOAB), on Islamic State forces in eastern Afghanistan.
Its the first time the bomb -- nicknamed the "mother of all bombs," and one of the largest air-dropped munitions in the U.S. militarys inventory -- has ever been used in a combat. (By comparison, U.S. aircraft commonly drop bombs that weigh between 250 to 2,000 pounds.)
The target was an ISIS cave and tunnel complex and personnel in the Achin district of the Nangarhar province in northeast Afghanistan, near the Pakistani border. Its unclear what the GBU-43 strike accomplished, since the bomb is not designed to penetrate hardened targets such a bunkers or cave complexes.
But the bombing could represent a shocking escalation of Americas war in Afghanistanand one that place more civilians in greater danger than ever before.
After years of limiting air strikes in order to minimize civilian casualties, Trump seems to be making good on his promise to bomb the shit out of ISIS. The Pentagon says U.S. Forces took every precaution to avoid civilian casualties with this strike, but what does that mean? The Pentagon is now hitting suspected militants faster and with less vetting. Inaccurate U.S. air strikes reportedly killed hundreds of civilians in Mosul in Iraq last month.
Trump seems to have unleashed his generals for all out war on exactly whom? Assad? ISIS? ISIS in all its forms and permutations, wherever they occur? The Taliban? Al-Qaeda?
Does Congress have any say in this? Do we as citizens of the United States have any say? Where is this leading?
What do you think?
Its the first time the bomb -- nicknamed the "mother of all bombs," and one of the largest air-dropped munitions in the U.S. militarys inventory -- has ever been used in a combat. (By comparison, U.S. aircraft commonly drop bombs that weigh between 250 to 2,000 pounds.)
The target was an ISIS cave and tunnel complex and personnel in the Achin district of the Nangarhar province in northeast Afghanistan, near the Pakistani border. Its unclear what the GBU-43 strike accomplished, since the bomb is not designed to penetrate hardened targets such a bunkers or cave complexes.
But the bombing could represent a shocking escalation of Americas war in Afghanistanand one that place more civilians in greater danger than ever before.
After years of limiting air strikes in order to minimize civilian casualties, Trump seems to be making good on his promise to bomb the shit out of ISIS. The Pentagon says U.S. Forces took every precaution to avoid civilian casualties with this strike, but what does that mean? The Pentagon is now hitting suspected militants faster and with less vetting. Inaccurate U.S. air strikes reportedly killed hundreds of civilians in Mosul in Iraq last month.
Trump seems to have unleashed his generals for all out war on exactly whom? Assad? ISIS? ISIS in all its forms and permutations, wherever they occur? The Taliban? Al-Qaeda?
Does Congress have any say in this? Do we as citizens of the United States have any say? Where is this leading?
What do you think?
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Robert Reich on MOAB (Original Post)
babylonsister
Apr 2017
OP
"Does Congress have any say in this?" - they did, they voted for the war in Afghanistan.
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#2
I suppose an argument could be made that the war actually ended in 2014...
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#5
No wars, no bombs, impeach the psychotic asshole in the White House now before it's too late
onecaliberal
Apr 2017
#6
spanone
(135,816 posts)1. i don't want trump bombing anything. he scares the bejeezus out of me.
he will do it for all the wrong reasons.
babylonsister
(171,054 posts)3. Exactly. Makes me wonder how much thought really went into this?
And he can act unilaterally with no feedback from anyone, like Congress? Something is most definitely wrong with that picture.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)2. "Does Congress have any say in this?" - they did, they voted for the war in Afghanistan.
They could always vote to un-authorize the use of force there.
babylonsister
(171,054 posts)4. So the war has been ongoing, is that how they get away with this?
Doesn't make much sense to me. Different prez for starters.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)5. I suppose an argument could be made that the war actually ended in 2014...
http://time.com/3648055/united-states-afghanistan-war-end/
Of course it seems unlikely the Republican Congress is going to stop military action in Afghanistan (or Syria).
Of course it seems unlikely the Republican Congress is going to stop military action in Afghanistan (or Syria).
onecaliberal
(32,814 posts)6. No wars, no bombs, impeach the psychotic asshole in the White House now before it's too late
salin
(48,955 posts)7. I now think of Trump as Pennywise the President.
Frightening us all. In the most treacherous of ways.