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NRaleighLiberal

(60,004 posts)
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 03:37 PM Apr 2017

Wow - TPM - "Trump and The Problem of Militant Ignorance". Bravo, Josh Marshall!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-the-problem-of-militant-ignorance

By JOSH MARSHALL Published APRIL 14, 2017, 2:36 PM EDT

It is what we might call ‘the consensus judgment’ that President Trump is a deeply ignorant man and perhaps a profoundly ignorant President. But it is worth stepping back and considering just what this means, the different kinds of ignorance that exist and how they differ.

Without making a direct comparison, it is worth remembering that each of the last three Presidents came to office with a steep learning curve about the modalities of the presidency and many aspects of the challenges and issues they would face. Clinton, Bush and Obama were each, in different ways, pretty green. Bush’s father, since he had served in Congress, as head of the CIA and especially because he had served as a fairly active Vice President for the previous eight years, came in knowing quite a lot about the specifics of the Presidency.

Some of the difference with Clinton, Bush and Obama (let’s call them CBO) is that they had good staff or at least knowledgable staff who could help them understand what they didn’t know and advise them on the almost infinite number of details they could never hope to understand in depth. But there’s another key issue. You don’t become President by being excessively humble. Yet CBO each had a sense of what they did not know. At a bare minimum, they didn’t advertise it when they learned something they later realized a lot of other people knew.

What is both endearing, terrifying and hilarious about Trump is not simply his ignorance, really his militant ignorance, but his complete lack of self-awareness about his ignorance. Trump told a reporter for The Wall Street Journal that his understanding of the problem of North Korea changed dramatically after hearing ten minutes of history from the President of China. Needless to say, Trump didn’t need to admit this. But neither was it candor.

edited - snipped - please read it all - it is worth it.

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THIS - BIGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wow - TPM - "Trump and The Problem of Militant Ignorance". Bravo, Josh Marshall! (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Apr 2017 OP
When I read Marshall, I feel smarter. You probably should not have posted the entire article, tho. randome Apr 2017 #1
ah - good idea - I will do the snip. It was just all so good.... NRaleighLiberal Apr 2017 #3
Ironically I got a pop up for a Mexican restaurant underpants Apr 2017 #2
"Mr. Magoo performance"... greatauntoftriplets Apr 2017 #4
Excellent read malaise Apr 2017 #5
when you and I switch from "fugging" to the real deal, it is clear it is fucking time for him to go! NRaleighLiberal Apr 2017 #6
Back at you bro malaise Apr 2017 #8
Confident people like Obama surround themselves with truly excellent people cause they're confident. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #7
Kick NRaleighLiberal Apr 2017 #9
Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar and Obama a Constitutional Law Professor lunatica Apr 2017 #10
We should all read every Edblog Marshall article sharedvalues Apr 2017 #11
Josh today said DJT is 20-yr FBI informant sharedvalues Apr 2017 #12
endearing??? Perseus Apr 2017 #13
"Endearing" - like herpes, or a rabid badger . . . hatrack Apr 2017 #14
kick for the night crew NRaleighLiberal Apr 2017 #15
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. When I read Marshall, I feel smarter. You probably should not have posted the entire article, tho.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 03:43 PM
Apr 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)
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malaise

(268,575 posts)
5. Excellent read
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 04:01 PM
Apr 2017

This is why it's so terrifying to see M$Greedia cheering him on willing him to bomb North Korea. These fucking people are crazy on steroids

NRaleighLiberal

(60,004 posts)
6. when you and I switch from "fugging" to the real deal, it is clear it is fucking time for him to go!
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 04:07 PM
Apr 2017

I am so far beyond the end of my rope that it would take a really long rope to even rescue me!

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. Confident people like Obama surround themselves with truly excellent people cause they're confident.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 04:08 PM
Apr 2017

People like Trump feel threatened.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar and Obama a Constitutional Law Professor
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 05:52 PM
Apr 2017

No comparison is possible. It just isn't. These Presidents were head and shoulders above Dubya or Trump.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
12. Josh today said DJT is 20-yr FBI informant
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 06:20 PM
Apr 2017

It's like Whitey Bulger all over again.

Marshall on Twitter said he's heard from several sources that Trump has been working with the FBI for years and that's why the rest of the world knew about his crimes far before the FBI or American voters. He also said he just can't get the confirmation he needs to report that.

Marshall in a TPM EdBlog article earlier today said everything but the above, noting Felix Sater worked for DJT while Sater was an FBI informant.



Trump is going to prison.
And so are his FBI handlers. Just like Bulger and his handler John Connolly.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. endearing???
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 06:32 PM
Apr 2017

I don't find anything from Trump endearing...and his utter ignorance when combined with his narcissism makes for a very bad cocktail.

"Endearing" was the wrong word to use when explaining Trump, IMHO.

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