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mailman82

(399 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:00 PM Jul 2012

Medical device!

My repug friends are sending me a notice. In HR3200-Sec521Pages 1000-1008. A device that will be implanted in all of us. For what I don't know. But I read that sec. and that is not what I read. I called Bullshit, got into heavy argument. Lost 2 friends. Good by to them. I didn't like them much way!

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Medical device! (Original Post) mailman82 Jul 2012 OP
Claim: "Obamacare" health care legislation requires that everyone be implanted with RFID microchip Ian David Jul 2012 #1
Just tell them that a tinfoil hat will block the signal. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #2
It is bullshit... cynatnite Jul 2012 #3
LOL Tin foil hats! mailman82 Jul 2012 #4

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
1. Claim: "Obamacare" health care legislation requires that everyone be implanted with RFID microchip
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jul 2012

FALSE

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Origins: "Big Brother" rumors (often linked to the "mark of the beast" referenced in Revelation 13:16-18) warning that the government will ultimately require all citizens to be implanted with microchips have been around just about as long as microchips have, and specific claims that health care reform legislation will require such implantations date to the Clinton administration. So, the warning reproduced above — that health care reform legislation passed by the U.S. Congress in 2010 would require that "this sort of
device be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option" — is nothing new under the sun. This warning is also just as false as all such previous rumors, a combination of someone's using inapplicable source material and also misunderstanding the meaning of the information contained within that source.

First off, the page numbers and language referenced in the example above were taken from HR 3200, an early House version of health care reform legislation that was never passed by Congress. Passages cited from HR 3200 are therefore irrelevant, as that bill was never signed into law.

Second, the now-irrelevant language of the unpassed HR 3200 (and similar language in the subsequently passed reconciliation bill, HR 4872) did not mandate that anyone be implanted with any type of microchip or device, for any reason. The passages quoted above reference a section which simply calls for the creation of a registry that would allow the Department of Health and Human Services to collect data about medical devices "used in or on a patient" (including devices which patients consent to have implanted in them during surgery, such as pacemakers) for purposes that include tracking the effectiveness of such devices and facilitating the distribution of manufacturer recall notices.

More:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
3. It is bullshit...
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:03 PM
Jul 2012

That part of the HCR was never signed into law. It was supposed to collect data about medical devices. That was the original intent.

mailman82

(399 posts)
4. LOL Tin foil hats!
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:24 PM
Jul 2012

Thank you! I offered to buy them tin foil hats. That is when they started the fighting and I left.

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