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struggle4progress

(118,041 posts)
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:17 AM Apr 2017

Racism motivated Trump voters

By Thomas Wood
April 17 at 6:00 AM

... While the wealthy are usually most likely to vote for the Republican, they didn’t this time; and while the poor are usually less likely to vote for the Republican, they were unusually supportive of Trump ... Trump’s voters appear a little less authoritarian than recent white Republican voters ...

Since 1988, we’ve never seen such a clear correspondence between vote choice and racial perceptions. The biggest movement was among those who voted for the Democrat, who were far less likely to agree with attitudes coded as more racially biased ...

Racial attitudes made a bigger difference in electing Trump than authoritarianism.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/04/17/racism-motivated-trump-voters-more-than-authoritarianism-or-income-inequality/

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Racism motivated Trump voters (Original Post) struggle4progress Apr 2017 OP
And many were giving cover in all corners. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #1
+1 dalton99a Apr 2017 #6
So, we ended up with a wannabe authoritarian dictator who is a racist. democratisphere Apr 2017 #2
Racism is a part of authoritarianism. One race should have authority over another. SharonAnn Apr 2017 #16
The wealthiest have absolute power over the rest. democratisphere Apr 2017 #19
LINCOLN SHOT! TITANIC SINKS! HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #3
The racist element was obvious in his rallies dalton99a Apr 2017 #4
Who hires these writers? Stinky The Clown Apr 2017 #5
"a close similarity, connection, or equivalence." NCTraveler Apr 2017 #8
It is a statistical term. alarimer Apr 2017 #25
That does not negate the accuracy of the word use. At all. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #26
Racism and authoritarianism are inextricably linked. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #7
Yep. Gotta make up crime statistics and "restore" law and order to keep colored folks in their place dalton99a Apr 2017 #9
It was a factor for sure. ucrdem Apr 2017 #10
Oh, yeah not fooled Apr 2017 #17
Yes this is ugly, but it should have opened our eyes FakeNoose Apr 2017 #29
She ran a few, and made at least one speech laying it all out, ucrdem Apr 2017 #30
Love the links in your sig line JHan Apr 2017 #36
LOL, thanks ucrdem Apr 2017 #37
makes me wish I was around at the time lol. JHan Apr 2017 #38
HUH? .. While the wealthy are usually most likely to vote for the Republican, they didnt this time. lunasun Apr 2017 #11
racist, misogynist, homo/transphobic and... Crash2Parties Apr 2017 #12
Religionist Butterflylady Apr 2017 #13
moronic. kag Apr 2017 #15
Of course it did, along with misogyny and all the other isms. ananda Apr 2017 #14
"Trump motivated racist voters"... JohnnyRingo Apr 2017 #18
Racism, huh? Who would have thought! dchill Apr 2017 #20
Good read. Thanks for posting. KPN Apr 2017 #21
Current tense, motivating, not past tense, motivated. ffr Apr 2017 #22
I expect more racism from people who vote Republican for President Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #23
Big K&R BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #24
But we've been told all along that we mustn't call them racist Orrex Apr 2017 #27
No doubt this is true, but sexism HopeAgain Apr 2017 #28
Yes, racism was the indeed primary motivator. Nitram Apr 2017 #31
Not only was the trump vote about racism, misogyny and homophobia, but Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #32
It's stunning that the one campaign that was blatantly xenophobic and exploited racial resentments.. JHan Apr 2017 #33
Well, calling a racist "a racist" might hurt his feewings. We should never point out the obvious.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #34
Just slip a hard copy of this into the "No Shit" drawer. VOX Apr 2017 #35
Deplorables are very stupid people which is why they vote for trump Gothmog Mar 2018 #39
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. And many were giving cover in all corners.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:22 AM
Apr 2017

The "we should have honed our message more to the white working class" was a very transparent line. Might not have been transparent if our candidate wasn't going for that demographic every single day. What they were really saying is that they want to continue the trend of white preferential treatment.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. So, we ended up with a wannabe authoritarian dictator who is a racist.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:28 AM
Apr 2017

Way to go America! drumpf is going to show the poor and less educated what it really means to be poor.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
3. LINCOLN SHOT! TITANIC SINKS!
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:29 AM
Apr 2017

This was nothing but a revenge vote . . . due'n to that uppity (insert racial slur of choice here) DARIN' t' occupie the "WHITE House"!

dalton99a

(81,073 posts)
4. The racist element was obvious in his rallies
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:29 AM
Apr 2017

with all the open, and often violent, hostility toward non-whites among his supporters

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
25. It is a statistical term.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:56 AM
Apr 2017

Correlation does not imply causation.

Not the same thing at all. In fact any study relying on correlation should be taken with a grain of salt.

But liberals are so eager to have their prejudices confirmed, they will overlook flaws in the study (another logical fallacy called confirmation bias).

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. It was a factor for sure.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:39 AM
Apr 2017

So was sexism, and so was plain-old Hillary hate, the kind the GOP has been methodically ginning up since the Clintons moved to Pennsylvania Ave in 1992. They've been focus group testing anti-Hillary messages for years. In fact the Goldman-Sachs speech fee talking point came from a Florida focus group, per a NYT article from July 2015:


In Orlando, the “dead broke” ad emerged as the most effective spot, partly because it captured the gulf between Mrs. Clinton’s life and those of the less affluent people gathered.

"The Best Way to Vilify Hillary Clinton? G.O.P. Spends Heavily to Test It"
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/us/the-best-way-to-vilify-clinton-gop-spends-heavily-to-test-it.html

not fooled

(5,791 posts)
17. Oh, yeah
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:34 AM
Apr 2017

dumbasses who bought into the anti-Hillary meme chose instead a (supposed) billionaire with a history of stiffing working folks, proclaiming that wages are too high, and being an all around a-hole and scumbag.

Way to go, dump voters.

FakeNoose

(32,356 posts)
29. Yes this is ugly, but it should have opened our eyes
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 11:22 AM
Apr 2017

Why wasn't the DCN putting out ads like this about Trump's high-rolling lifestyle?

The Dems had plenty of chances to demonstrate that Trump was a terrible candidate with ads just like this aimed at the jugular. But I never saw any anti-Trump ads, only anti-Hillary.

It would have been like shooting fish in a barrel, but the Dems never tried to do it.


ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
30. She ran a few, and made at least one speech laying it all out,
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 11:51 AM
Apr 2017

in San Diego. She was pretty sharp in the last debate too, when Cheeto was really on the ropes. Then he got off one good wisecrack and won the damn thing.

The problem was that anything negative that she said just played to the Tonya Harding image the GOP so carefully nurtured. Hillary is never going to be Nany Kerrigan, but her attitude toward Sanders for example was always very cordial, which may have been ill-advised. But the media never let her off the hook and she came across as mean.

ananda

(28,783 posts)
14. Of course it did, along with misogyny and all the other isms.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:21 AM
Apr 2017

People carry a lot of misguided or misdirected hate.

The elite billionaires and conglomerate media like this and use it.

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
18. "Trump motivated racist voters"...
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:36 AM
Apr 2017

...would be another way to put that, and it wasn't unintentional. He knew what buttons he was pushing.

KPN

(15,587 posts)
21. Good read. Thanks for posting.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:44 AM
Apr 2017

Though there are some assumptions made in the author's statistical analysis that I would have liked to have seen better explained. Nevertheless, there's no question racism was a huge factor.

ffr

(22,649 posts)
22. Current tense, motivating, not past tense, motivated.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:51 AM
Apr 2017

So long as RW media is controlling the narrative for these folks, they're going to parrot what they here. RW media hasn't changed course, therefore the motivating factor with tRump supporters is racism.


President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
23. I expect more racism from people who vote Republican for President
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:54 AM
Apr 2017

And that is the line Trump ran on. I sure as hell never thought most Trump voters backed him because of income inequality.

We can't do shit about many social ills if we lose elections though. Sometimes "soft" racists (e.g. non white supremacists) vote for the Democrat despite their racial prejudices - because of other issues. They "help" us win some close elections.

It's pretty much of a given that Republicans win the racist vote and Democrats win the racial justice vote. Not every voter is highly motivated to vote through identifying with either end of that continuum though . Of course we can't (and shouldn't) compete for most of Trump's voters. And we can never pander to racist views. But there were things we could have done to stem the loss of some voters who shifted their support from America's first African American President to Donald Trump. We could have won the rust belt, and Hillary Clinton would be president today if we did.

BumRushDaShow

(127,317 posts)
24. Big K&R
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:55 AM
Apr 2017


What many have dubbed "white-lash". Eight years of this nation drowning in the fake and infotainment media's insistence that our previous President was "not an 'American'", and "he does not represent (look like (sic)) 'us'" resulted in this.

I expect many didn't really care about "a wall" (a lot of Drumpf voters don't live anywhere near the southern border) nor did they really care about "Muslin (sic) hoards" over-running their all-white Christian enclaves and "imposing Sharia Law&quot . But what they did care about was who "represented them" - both physically and policy-wise, to the rest of the world, and whoever it was could NOT look like someone like Barack Obama (let alone be a woman like Hillary Clinton).

Orrex

(63,086 posts)
27. But we've been told all along that we mustn't call them racist
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 11:14 AM
Apr 2017

Sure, they supported a racist candidate and a racist agenda and a racist administration, but that doesn't mean that they're racist.

Fuck every last one of these racist assholes. And fuck those who might not have been racist on election day but eagerly jumped onto the racist bandwagon with all the rest. Fuck them.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
28. No doubt this is true, but sexism
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 11:14 AM
Apr 2017

was probably an even bigger factor. I know plenty men who just couldn't articulate their leanings towards Trump without using sexist language when speaking about Clinton.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
32. Not only was the trump vote about racism, misogyny and homophobia, but
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 01:08 PM
Apr 2017

that fact will be denied constantly by the propagandists in charge of the new GOP.

The new GOP works with Russia, they too hate gays, brown people and women.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
33. It's stunning that the one campaign that was blatantly xenophobic and exploited racial resentments..
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 06:11 PM
Apr 2017

is the one campaign many, even some on the left, are pretending wasn't motivated by xenophobia and racial resentment.

Xenophobia and Racial resentment is now "Economic Anxiety" ..

I see you America -_-

Tarheel_Dem

(31,211 posts)
34. Well, calling a racist "a racist" might hurt his feewings. We should never point out the obvious....
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:10 PM
Apr 2017

cuz someone may be offended.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
35. Just slip a hard copy of this into the "No Shit" drawer.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:17 PM
Apr 2017

Will "get to it" sometime during the duration.

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