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By Thomas Wood
April 17 at 6:00 AM
... While the wealthy are usually most likely to vote for the Republican, they didnt this time; and while the poor are usually less likely to vote for the Republican, they were unusually supportive of Trump ... Trumps voters appear a little less authoritarian than recent white Republican voters ...
Since 1988, weve never seen such a clear correspondence between vote choice and racial perceptions. The biggest movement was among those who voted for the Democrat, who were far less likely to agree with attitudes coded as more racially biased ...
Racial attitudes made a bigger difference in electing Trump than authoritarianism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/04/17/racism-motivated-trump-voters-more-than-authoritarianism-or-income-inequality/
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The "we should have honed our message more to the white working class" was a very transparent line. Might not have been transparent if our candidate wasn't going for that demographic every single day. What they were really saying is that they want to continue the trend of white preferential treatment.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Way to go America! drumpf is going to show the poor and less educated what it really means to be poor.
SharonAnn
(13,767 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)This was nothing but a revenge vote . . . due'n to that uppity (insert racial slur of choice here) DARIN' t' occupie the "WHITE House"!
dalton99a
(81,073 posts)with all the open, and often violent, hostility toward non-whites among his supporters
Stinky The Clown
(67,697 posts)The word is "correlation" not "correspondence".
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)What is it that doesn't work?
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Correlation does not imply causation.
Not the same thing at all. In fact any study relying on correlation should be taken with a grain of salt.
But liberals are so eager to have their prejudices confirmed, they will overlook flaws in the study (another logical fallacy called confirmation bias).
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)In order to exert authority you need a hierarchy.
dalton99a
(81,073 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)So was sexism, and so was plain-old Hillary hate, the kind the GOP has been methodically ginning up since the Clintons moved to Pennsylvania Ave in 1992. They've been focus group testing anti-Hillary messages for years. In fact the Goldman-Sachs speech fee talking point came from a Florida focus group, per a NYT article from July 2015:
In Orlando, the dead broke ad emerged as the most effective spot, partly because it captured the gulf between Mrs. Clintons life and those of the less affluent people gathered.
"The Best Way to Vilify Hillary Clinton? G.O.P. Spends Heavily to Test It"
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/us/the-best-way-to-vilify-clinton-gop-spends-heavily-to-test-it.html
not fooled
(5,791 posts)dumbasses who bought into the anti-Hillary meme chose instead a (supposed) billionaire with a history of stiffing working folks, proclaiming that wages are too high, and being an all around a-hole and scumbag.
Way to go, dump voters.
FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)Why wasn't the DCN putting out ads like this about Trump's high-rolling lifestyle?
The Dems had plenty of chances to demonstrate that Trump was a terrible candidate with ads just like this aimed at the jugular. But I never saw any anti-Trump ads, only anti-Hillary.
It would have been like shooting fish in a barrel, but the Dems never tried to do it.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)in San Diego. She was pretty sharp in the last debate too, when Cheeto was really on the ropes. Then he got off one good wisecrack and won the damn thing.
The problem was that anything negative that she said just played to the Tonya Harding image the GOP so carefully nurtured. Hillary is never going to be Nany Kerrigan, but her attitude toward Sanders for example was always very cordial, which may have been ill-advised. But the media never let her off the hook and she came across as mean.
JHan
(10,173 posts)good times!
JHan
(10,173 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)what do you call it when your bias is religion-based?
Butterflylady
(3,523 posts)kag
(4,076 posts)ananda
(28,783 posts)People carry a lot of misguided or misdirected hate.
The elite billionaires and conglomerate media like this and use it.
JohnnyRingo
(18,581 posts)...would be another way to put that, and it wasn't unintentional. He knew what buttons he was pushing.
dchill
(38,324 posts)KPN
(15,587 posts)Though there are some assumptions made in the author's statistical analysis that I would have liked to have seen better explained. Nevertheless, there's no question racism was a huge factor.
ffr
(22,649 posts)So long as RW media is controlling the narrative for these folks, they're going to parrot what they here. RW media hasn't changed course, therefore the motivating factor with tRump supporters is racism.
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)And that is the line Trump ran on. I sure as hell never thought most Trump voters backed him because of income inequality.
We can't do shit about many social ills if we lose elections though. Sometimes "soft" racists (e.g. non white supremacists) vote for the Democrat despite their racial prejudices - because of other issues. They "help" us win some close elections.
It's pretty much of a given that Republicans win the racist vote and Democrats win the racial justice vote. Not every voter is highly motivated to vote through identifying with either end of that continuum though . Of course we can't (and shouldn't) compete for most of Trump's voters. And we can never pander to racist views. But there were things we could have done to stem the loss of some voters who shifted their support from America's first African American President to Donald Trump. We could have won the rust belt, and Hillary Clinton would be president today if we did.
BumRushDaShow
(127,317 posts)What many have dubbed "white-lash". Eight years of this nation drowning in the fake and infotainment media's insistence that our previous President was "not an 'American'", and "he does not represent (look like (sic)) 'us'" resulted in this.
I expect many didn't really care about "a wall" (a lot of Drumpf voters don't live anywhere near the southern border) nor did they really care about "Muslin (sic) hoards" over-running their all-white Christian enclaves and "imposing Sharia Law" . But what they did care about was who "represented them" - both physically and policy-wise, to the rest of the world, and whoever it was could NOT look like someone like Barack Obama (let alone be a woman like Hillary Clinton).
Orrex
(63,086 posts)Sure, they supported a racist candidate and a racist agenda and a racist administration, but that doesn't mean that they're racist.
Fuck every last one of these racist assholes. And fuck those who might not have been racist on election day but eagerly jumped onto the racist bandwagon with all the rest. Fuck them.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)was probably an even bigger factor. I know plenty men who just couldn't articulate their leanings towards Trump without using sexist language when speaking about Clinton.
Nitram
(22,671 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)that fact will be denied constantly by the propagandists in charge of the new GOP.
The new GOP works with Russia, they too hate gays, brown people and women.
JHan
(10,173 posts)is the one campaign many, even some on the left, are pretending wasn't motivated by xenophobia and racial resentment.
Xenophobia and Racial resentment is now "Economic Anxiety" ..
I see you America -_-
Tarheel_Dem
(31,211 posts)cuz someone may be offended.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Will "get to it" sometime during the duration.