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BREAKING on Channel 2 Action News at 6 -- Voting equipment stolen days before Georgia special election
by: Ross Cavitt Updated: Apr 17, 2017 - 7:11 PM
COBB COUNTY, Ga. - Channel 2 Action News has learned that critical voting machines were stolen just days before polls will open for a special election.
State officials are investigating after equipment was taken from a Cobb County precinct managers vehicle. According to Secretary of State Brian Kemp, the equipment was stolen on Saturday evening while the vehicle was parked at the Kroger on Canton Road.
Kemps office says Cobb County Elections waited two days to tell his office about the theft of the machines.
The four so-called ExpressPoll machines were the computers poll workers used to check-in voters, and check those off who cast ballots.
Its very shocking, especially with the climate we have of voter fraud out there, one Georgia voter told Channel 2s Ross Cavitt.
Cobb County Elections Director Janine Eveler said the stolen machines cannot be used to fraudulently vote in Tuesdays election. Eveler said the machines have voter information on them, but that information is hard to access.
More: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/cobb-county/voting-equipment-stolen-days-before-special-election-sec-of-state-unacceptable/513453377
elleng
(130,749 posts)cstanleytech
(26,242 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)It's a no brainer.
Absolutely!!
NO HACKING!!
slumcamper
(1,604 posts)Should be a "Plan B" fair election law: when the process or mechanism is compromised, auto-resort to paper ballots.
Of course Repugs would resist such an initiative. But where in power, Democrats need to pass such laws.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Until the fraud is gone who will know the truth?
It doesn't seem like it would be so hard to guarantee a real count.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)suppress and sabotage the "real" vote.
lastlib
(23,163 posts)They're the "Rig-publikan party."
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)This is just getting absurd as to how blantant the GOP cheats.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Shame, shame, shame.
MedusaX
(1,129 posts)Especially if the machines are missing...
It will be extremely difficult to access the info. necessary to check in voters & keep track of who has cast ballots....
Sounds like a new innovative form of Voter Suppression......
An elections official with voting machines in his vehicle,
unsecured, parks and leaves them at a Kroger???
Again... words fail.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,757 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:27 PM - Edit history (1)
How Republican is that?
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)I'm on the electoral board of a small, rural Virginia county. We have six polling places, 9,000 registered voters. Unlike the big counties with 750,000 registered voters, we do not have a huge staff with lift-gate trucks to haul voting equipment to polling places, set it up, test it, tear it down, return it to storage.
Instead, we three board members (ages 72, 70, and 67) spend two days about a week before the election running logic and accuracy tests on all voting machines after which we seal them and lock them back in the vault.
Our precinct chiefs (average age 67; five of six are female) come to the registrar's office on Monday, pick up ballots, voting machines, laptops with database of registered voters installed, office supplies, etc., etc., etc. A couple of volunteer firefighters help the chiefs haul this stuff out to their cars. The chiefs then take everything home with them. They show up at the polling places at 5:00 AM, haul everything out of their cars, set it up, run the election at their precinct.
At the end of the day, after they verify vote counts, account for ballots, seal the machines, etc., they bring it all back to the registrar's office, usually around 10:00 PM.
DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)In Philadelphia, all the election material for a ward was located at a nearby firestation. Everything was boxed up for each individual precinct and lined up numerically. There was an election board official on hand with a check off sheet to be signed as the cognizant election judge picked up the material. Then the judge took his/her box, put in their car and left. I usually brought my stuff into the house to get everything arranged and avoid having to do it an hour before the poll opened. We had poll books of voters printed and cards for each voter to be pulled out when that voter voted.
The voting machines were delivered to the polls the night before election day, tested then sealed by the board of elections.
FakeNoose
(32,596 posts)They'll be returned after they've be doctored up, good as new.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)"To tell his office?
And WTF were these machines doing in the backseat, at the Kroger's, on a Saturday night? Why was he driving around with these in the first place?
Phoenix61
(16,994 posts)Why were they in the car, and on Saturday? Taking them home for the weekend? Somebody's got some explaining to do.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)view of how much can they mess up people's votes counting.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)This shit can't fly.
We need to stomp on the brakes NOW.
This is FRAUD. It is BLATANT. It is OBSCENE.
Is this America? Is this freaking America?
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)the election that might be dubious.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)suppress the vote. So they can commit election fraud.
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drray23
(7,619 posts)I dont think it was a random event. Once you have these, you can reverse engineer everything in it and study how to attack them. That information is gold for hackers who wish to steal more elections.
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)These things are usually hard to get but I made a smart trade. I'll give you a good deal on them cuz I gotta clear out my warehouse to make room for the bridge I just bought. And you look, y'know, like someone who might want to keep a few on hand, just in case
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)wiggs
(7,810 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Sounds as though these were laptop computers loaded with an electronic pollbook. Read this from the article:
"The four so-called ExpressPoll machines were the computers poll workers used to check-in voters, and check those off who cast ballots. "
A voter enters the polling place, comes up to the table and presents ID. The poll worker then enters the voter's name into the laptop (in this case, the ExpressPoll). If the voter is registered, their name appears, poll worker verifies the name on ID matches name on computer, checks off the voter as having voted, sends the voter on to pick up a ballot.
These are NOT machines by which votes are cast or counted.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Or...so they can say 1,000 people tried to "illegally vote!"
dsc
(52,152 posts)There should be read only files of the data base on those computers and not the data base itself.
lostnfound
(16,162 posts)That would not be read-only.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Cattledog
(5,911 posts)They have been rendered useless...in other words remotely deactivated and can'tcommunicate with any election equipment. But still unnerving..
herding cats
(19,558 posts)This was more, much more than just voting machines.
C Moon
(12,209 posts)the GOP is able to win. CHEATING AND LYING!!
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)In the car????????? These people are idiots.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 17, 2017, 09:55 PM - Edit history (1)
...Holy Hell about this.
Get Jimmy Carter (surrogate, since he's sick) down there to investigate. Invite in the UN election watchers. Make it a national story.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Sounds more like they were stolen before they got to the car!
WTF are voting machines doing in an election worker's car days before an election?
Cattledog
(5,911 posts)They were laptops used to check voters in and see if they are registered.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)It's like saying there's difference between my laptop and my microwave. Two completely different things with two completely different functions.
volstork
(5,399 posts)PAPER BALLOTS.
oh, and: F trump
brer cat
(24,524 posts)GA is using old Diebold machines with NO paper trail.
LenaBaby61
(6,973 posts)The same Diebold machines from Ohio used in 2004 when Ken Blackwell was ...
Never mind
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)There needs to be a rule against that in the future. How STUPID!
Initech
(100,041 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)btw, California is huge. We use paper printout voter rolls. Problem free.
Takket
(21,529 posts)jmowreader
(50,530 posts)These are electronic pollbooks. A very quick way of rigging the vote WITHOUT tampering with the election software or any of the databases is to reduce the number of pollbooks available (which will make check-in take longer) in areas expected to lean Democratic, while making sure there are sufficient of them to handle the election-day crowds in areas expected to lean Republican.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)We are losing whatever since of Democracy had, by the day, minute, week and moment.
DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)I think sometimes people forget that there are a lot of long time poll workers. It only takes a couple of elections for them to know the voters.
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)but still, you also see the same names in the poll books every election, so it's not a total surprise when a new or infrequent voter shows up. And also, poll workers generally live in the precinct they serve, so they'll also know voters from just seeing them around the neighborhood.