What is with this sudden uptick of anti-Bernie threads?

[mac56]

Weren't we asked nicely not to keep re-fighting the primary battles?

Yet here we are with a torrent of "mean ol' Bernie" threads.

A skeptic might even use the word "orchestrated." Naah, couldn't be that.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Orchestrated, you mean like the anti Hillary shit that was non stop here and everywhere

all last year?

[madokie]

3. I really feel

that we could have had a chance this time.

Yes I know I'm treading on thin ice, but what the hell

We're stuck with a sorry bastard for at least 2 possibly 4 years

[RKP5637]

91. If the dems don't get our act together, we're in for some significant losing streaks IMO.

We have to unite, not divide. It's a big tent and everyone should be welcome. I know a number of people that won't join the democratic party, because they feel it's too divisive.

[mac56]

5. Ah. Classic "whatabout-ism."

You may have inadvertently answered my question.

[.99center]

35. Exactly, it's like another assault by outside forces to divide Democrats.

Do you think Republicans or Russian trolls give a crap about which democrat they're pretending to support? As long as we keep rehashing the primary it's a win for them.

[nolabels]

137. Why wouldn't you invest in an army of trolls that is very cost effective?

And what looks to be very effective. $300 for a PC as compared to $30000 to outfit a military trooper with gear

[Eliot Rosewater]

141. It is not rehashing. The same people who caused progressives to effectively vote for trump

by going 3rd or not voting are at it again and many of those same progressives are threatening to do it AGAIN.

Many of them are young, often first time voters who dont understand that there are no perfect candidates no matter how close they think Bernie came to being one, and never will be and that they must always vote and vote democratic ticket otherwise they are helping fascists.

[Cha]

66. Oh that was ok.. but mustn't call out BS on any

of his negative divisive insults thrown at our Democratic Party.

[cannabis_flower]

138. You mean..

Last year when there were primaries half the year? Quit fighting the last primary!

[Iggo]

139. Yes, like that.

[LexVegas]

2. Bernie. nt

[QC]

4. Maybe the Tillerson/Russia sanctions story?

Funny how no one's talking about that. It's an actual issue.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. I am talking about it, but pro Putin people are busy making sure

we fend off the same shit we did all last year when Hillary was constantly attacked.

[QC]

10. It's an important story for sure.

This whole administration is nothing but a smash 'n grab robbery.

[yallerdawg]

6. I wasn't here when DU started.

What kind of reception did Ralph Nader supporters get back then?

[Tom Rinaldo]

19. Nader ran against the Democrats in the General Election as opposed to campaigning for them

There is no basis for comparison.

[.99center]

41. Well done sir!

[Ms. Toad]

76. There wasn't a prohibition in the TOS against Nader bashing - as there is against Bernie bashing

Don't bash Democratic public figures
Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

Why we have this rule: Our forum members support and admire a wide variety of Democratic politicians and public figures. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders).

[sharedvalues]

81. The equivalent of Nader is Stein. The equivalent of Bernie in 2000 is Bill Bradley

Sanders is a primary candidate who lost then threw his support to the nominee (Hillary)

Nader was a third party candidate who did a great amount to cause us to waste trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of Americans killed in Iraq.

No comparison.

[malaise]

7. Same shit from last year

Bots and more bots

I'm ignoring all of them

[SecularMotion]

8. Just a natural reaction to the uptick in pro-bernie threads

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

58. Probably just jealousy.

[synergie]

126. And what do you imagine anyone is jealous of?

Does anyone believe that when their mom tells them this?

[betsuni]

127. Ha!

Even as an oblivious, slow-witted child I knew that when my mother told me this it was complete bullshit.

[Barack_America]

11. Uptick? I've found the Bernie bashing to be as consistent as it is futile.

[NRaleighLiberal]

12. pretty much by the same folks that drove me away from DU for a long time.

[mac56]

15. Exactly.

I naively hoped we could move on.

Maybe you can't go home again.

[askyagerz]

86. Yep

Been here and left before. It gets old pretty quick. You can't be a big tent party and then hand everyone a script as soon as they walk in

[Duppers]

95. Some have not returned.

Sweet folks too.

[Thor_MN]

13. Personally, I wouldn't exect Sanders to help Ossoff in Georgia

Sanders isn't a Democrat, so why would he get involved?

And who cares, either way?

[DanTex]

16. Bernie is the chair of Democratic outreach. So it's at least a little bit weird for him

to openly say to the press that he's not ready to support Ossoff. And it's natural that with statements like that and his "liberal elites" thing earlier, some Dems are reconsidering the wisdom of giving him that position, since, as you said, he's not a Democrat.

[Warpy]

20. What he said is that he didn't KNOW if Ossoff is a progressive.

Did. Not. Know.

There is no reason for him to know every Democrat running in every state. *I* don't know if Ossoff is a progressive. Given that it's GA, I would be surprised if he's at all progressive. However, the worst Democrat is always much better than the best Republican, so it makes little difference.

His job as the chair of Democratic outreach is to get to people and explain the difference between our party and the Republicans. He does that very well despite the sniping of party conservatives who can't forgive him for that "I" after his name or his opposition to Clinton in the primaries or the success he had in those primaries.

The primaries are OVER. It's time to let go of that resentment. Eyes on the prize, people.

[DanTex]

27. Which is, first of all, a stupid thing for the chair of Democratic outreach to say.

It's fine for some random blogger to say that, but not for someone with a leadership position like Bernie. If Bernie isn't up to being a team player, then he shouldn't have a leadership position, plain and simple.

The other thing is, it's insane for him to not know about Ossoff. Yes, right now, he should know "every Democrat running in every state" as you put it. Why? Because right now there is only one Democrat running in only one state. And it's getting a huge amount of press because it's being considered a referendum on Trump.

Yes, my eyes are on the prize. Which is taking seats back and stopping Trump's agenda. Winning the Georgia race right now is a part of that prize, and the person who needs to keep his eyes on it is Bernie.

[Warpy]

28. Only if the "prize" is eliminating Sanders and his supporters.

Good luck with that.

[DanTex]

30. The prize is eliminating Trump and the GOP from political power.

I would hope that Bernie is on board with that prize. But some of his statements and actions recently really makes it seem like he has another agenda.

[mac56]

29. Strange way of accomplishing that

Chastising Bernie supporters.

[DanTex]

31. I'm chastising Bernie for his tone-deaf comment, not his supporters.

[Plucketeer]

74. So how about

rattling off some names of Dems who've never stuck their feet in their mouths?

[uponit7771]

50. +1

[lapucelle]

115. Guess which "progressive" Sanders has endorsed in VA

Candidate A: The physician has made women’s reproductive health one of his signature issues as a senator and lieutenant governor. In 2012, he successfully fought legislation to require women to undergo an ultrasound before an abortion, explaining in a floor debate how the bill would require a transvaginal probe. In the current legislative session, he has tried to block Republican attempts to defund Planned Parenthood.

Candidate B: In Congress, he supported an unsuccessful attempt to bar insurance plans that cover abortion from receiving subsidies under the Affordable Care Act. He apologized for that vote a day after beginning his gubernatorial campaign. In 2009, he voted against legislation that would have defunded Planned Parenthood.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/01/06/tom_perriello_has_an_anti_abortion_pro_gun_voting_record_and_wants_to_be.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/virginia-governors-race-democrats-northam-perriello-on-hot-button-issues/2017/02/16/4ac68bae-f3d3-11e6-b9c9-e83fce42fb61_story.html?utm_term=.e5a29128dd70#comments

[sharedvalues]

88. chair of D outreach is a SENATE Post. Nothing to do with Ossoff.

Why are so many posters suddenly bringing up this outreach talking point?

[lapucelle]

116. It's not a Senate post.

It's a Democratic party leadership post. The Outreach Committee is run under the purview of the Democratic senate leader. Some party committees are run under the direction of the Senate leader, and others are are supervised by the House leader.

These are Democratic party positions, and this is the only Democratic Outreach Committee that exists. There is no corresponding House committee.

[sharedvalues]

87. Yes, who cares????? Let Bernie do his thing

[lapucelle]

136. I care.

If Sanders' "thing" is to accept and endorse a candidate who has an anti-choice history and a dubious record on sane gun laws, then we need to revisit his definition of "progressive". It seems absolutely elastic for some issues that matter to progressives and totally rigid and doctrinaire for others.

It's absolutely unconscionable that the Democratic Party Outreach Chair admits to being so uninformed about candidate Jon Ossoff that he is not sure whether he can endorse the Democratic candidate over a Republican in an important special election.

Sanders made news this week that some Democrats find extremely troubling. Of course people are going to discuss it. These threads are not "anti-Sanders". They're pro-Democratic Party.

[DanTex]

14. It coincides with the uptick of Bernie saying unfortunate things.

[Fast Walker 52]

18. Exactly. Unfortunate things about Democrats and he's not a Democrat.

[Warpy]

17. Orders, I suppose, to trolls over on Farcebook.

Keep trying to split Sanders supporters off from the Democrats by posting things out of context in a spirit of outrage.

People get their outrage meters pinned over on Farcebook and feel compelled to bring it here.

I would love to see the "stop fighting the primary" rule upheld by juries. I doubt it ever will, though. Sanders lost the primary and went back to being independent, therefore he is an enemy of the people.

I'm just hitting "trash thread" when I see them.

Yeah, splitting all those troublesome Sanders people who voted for Clinton off and drumming them out of the party, that'll win all elections from now on!

[OnDoutside]

22. It's probably because he demands so much from the

Democratic party, but gives little in return. What does it say to a Dem member that he demands so much but rejected joining you ? At the least, it's a lack of respect for the people you are supposed to be fighting in the same trenches with.

[Warpy]

23. Excuse me? He's out there working for the party.

I'm surprised you missed that. It's why he's being quoted all over the place, especially out of context on Farcebook.

[OnDoutside]

25. Then become a member of the Democratic Party. It's not a

big ask. I can even understand him not handing over his donor contact list, since many donated on the basis he was an independent. He would have to ask each o them if they wanted their info passed I've to the DNC. His joining the party would be him saying we are one.

[sharedvalues]

90. He's working for progressive issues. We are on the same side. Let him do his thing.

[JudyM]

144. Purity test. More important that he's working overtime to help than that he "joins"

[demmiblue]

21. Who knows, bots are everywhere.

I remember the influx of disruptors during March, April and May of last year.

I put dozens upon dozens of them on ignore. 95% of them had their posting privileges revoked (low count posters, usually), stopped posting after the summer/fall (relatively new huge count posters), and/or didn't accept the new ToS after DU got hacked.

[JudyM]

145. They're not honoring ToS.

No bashing Sanders. Those that aren't bots, and I believe some are real Dems, sure as hell aren't helping the party by continuing to fester and spew dreck.

[Skittles]

24. it is because of the uptick in swooning

ENOUGH already

[mac56]

26. Swooning?

Please explain.

[demmiblue]

32. Something, something about the Tiger Beat club...

while having a Tiger Beat club card slyly tucked away in a super secret hidden compartment in a wallet.

[Skittles]

34. yup: the Tiger Beat clubs survive the primaries

unfortunately

[demmiblue]

36. Lol... sure.

[Skittles]

37. I know, you're insinuating everyone is a secret swooner

it ain't so

a person is a swooner if they can handle ZERO criticism of their preferred politician

there plenty of DUers like that: they constant fools of themselves

[demmiblue]

38. No, I am not insinuating that everyone is a secret swooner. n/t

[Skittles]

39. lol...sure.

[Skittles]

33. constant breathless proclamations of the greatness of Bernie

over-the-top nonsense

[mac56]

40. Constant?

Hyperbole.

[Skittles]

61. YES!

EVERY FUCKING DAY, SEVERAL POSTS!
Which is fine - if you want to LOVE BERNIE, *HAVE AT IT*

just STOP expecting EVERYONE to love him - it AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN

[WomenRising2017]

67. Hell Yeah!

[JTFrog]

68. +1 Sing it! nt

[WomenRising2017]

42. Indeed.

Some treat him like a deity.

I swear, I'm waiting so someone to post about what Bernie had for dinner this evening.

followed by, "Wow! That's great! Bernie is the man! Everyone should eat that for dinner tonight."

and of course, "Anyone who doesn't eat what Bernie had for dinner is a centrist or (insult various insult here)."

[Skittles]

60. you know it

LOL, a DUer claims I "made it up"



clueless

[WomenRising2017]

69. bwahahahahaha.

Look out below,

[Skittles]

73. yes

fucking CLUELESS

[melman]

53. Something that does not happen

Totally made up.

[dgauss]

43. Maybe it's time for a "Bernie thinks he's so great but really he's not" forum.

[JudyM]

146. Heh.

That is an amusing thought!

[L. Coyote]

44. Troll central sent out the orders.

The bots obey the commands.

[Cha]

71. Bullshit

[betsuni]

106. Are people in this thread actually accusing DU members who post verbatim quotes

and nothing even vaguely resembling fake news of being bots? That's stupid. At least they're leaving David Brock out of it. We all used to be paid by David Brock, of course.

[Cha]

109. Yes they are because that's all they have.. it's their

fall back when the going gets rough.. they can't handle it.

[kentuck]

45. I don't think they are very helpful.

Quite the contrary, actually.

[Flaleftist]

48. Yes. They are very counterproductive.

Perhaps that is how some people want it.

[Progressive dog]

46. It couldn't be that the Russian bots are now

after Bernie. Nope, it couldn't.

[mopinko]

47. because juries arent doing their job.

[rzemanfl]

57. What do you think a jury should do about the "don't bash Democrats" rule? Bernie

is not a member of the party.

[Skittles]

62. IT SHOULD NOT APPLY TO BERNIE

HE IS *NOT* A DEMOCRAT

[rzemanfl]

64. That's my position too Skittles. n/t

[Ms. Toad]

79. Then I hope you'll opt out of jury service,

since Skinner & company have expressly stated that it does apply to Bernie.

[Skittles]

97. I have NEVER opted in on jury service

and if the rules here include independents, it SHOULD STATE that - right now, it says DEMOCRATS

[Ms. Toad]

99. The rules expressly include both independents AND Bernie (by name)

Don't bash Democratic public figures

Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

Why we have this rule: Our forum members support and admire a wide variety of Democratic politicians and public figures. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[Skittles]

108. when I had a post yanked for simply stating Bernie was an opportunist

for switching to be a Dem SOLELY for the purpose of running for president, the rule I "broke" stated I could not trash DEMOCRATS

and by the way, that is the VERY DEFINITION of opportunism, so HOW is that trashing?

if he truly ALIGNED with Dems, he would BE ONE

DONE here because I am SICK of talking about *BERNIE*

[Ms. Toad]

111. That's the caption of the rule.

I quoted the rule for you in its entirety - and the very last line expressly prohibits trashing (generally) Independents who caucus with Democrats, and (specifically) Bernie Sanders.

[rzemanfl]

129. I confused (conflated?) "Support Democrats" and "Don't bash." n/t

[Ms. Toad]

78. It EXPRESSSLY DOES apply to Bernie.

People serving on juries should read the rule they are asked to enforce.

Don't bash Democratic public figures

Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

Why we have this rule: Our forum members support and admire a wide variety of Democratic politicians and public figures. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders).

[ProfessorGAC]

133. And The Rule In Question Shows Up Every Time One Is Asked To Serve

So, there's no "i forgot" involved. Every single time i get the blue bar at the top of the screen and i click i can serve now, you see the text of the rule in question.
GAC

[marlakay]

49. All i know is if it doesn't stop they win

For good...

[JudyM]

147. The party loses. For good. As long as they continue to enjoy their obsession, it's all good though.

[Demsrule86]

51. I am trashing this thread but I will say the reason these

sort of posts are popping up is because of some stuff Bernie said...about the Democratic Party and about Ossoff...and apparently supporting a pro-life candidate which I was unaware of. I intend to ignore Bernie. He can't possibly be planning another run or he would not say such stuff...and we have bigger fish to fry...resisting Trump.

[hrmjustin]

52. I think there was legit criticism of his not ca!mpaigning with Ossoff. Oh this doesn't help...

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329559-sanders-i-dont-know-if-ossoff-is-progressive

[retrowire]

84. That does help

Since ossof is getting attacked with the progressive label in a red state.

So touting him as progressive would be a bad move anyways.

Bernie is doing him a favor.

[hrmjustin]

94. I see your point and it is a good point.

My concern is it might hurt on the left.

[retrowire]

96. Valid concern! Nt

[SticksnStones]

128. Depends on who you're trying to convince to come out and vote

Repubs gonna vote republican...where was the outreach to the disenfranchised who tend to stay home? Isn't that Sanders magical power?

[elfin]

54. Good question

What possible entity would like to keep the Dems at each others throats like the Reps are?

Hmmm.

The vitriol is suspicious and destructive.

[Tom Rinaldo]

55. Perez and Schumer have embraced him (among others)...

...which is driving some crazy. It is soiling their "Bernie trashes Democrats" taking point and they are throwing up a storm to distract from the fact that the National Democratic Party is serious about healing any left over divisions on our side after the last campaign.

There is nothing like the head of the DNC launching a national tour with Bernie Sanders to promote unity, to get a certain mind set all up in arms about Sanders really being our adversary rather than ally.

[KittyWampus]

65. Amazing how many Sanders supporters can just ignore his repeated, unnecessary insults

of the Democratic party.

[WomenRising2017]

100. Perhaps it's intentional.

[Tom Rinaldo]

131. The Democratic Party is doing just fine with him. n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

134. Depends Upon Whether You Define Insult to Meet Your Own Needs

I see the comments as criticism. You see them as insults. Therein lies the difference, i believe.

[applegrove]

56. I'm sure the GOP is terrified of him. They probably have paid trolls trying

to gin up hate. People are believing Bernie on universal health care, even the GOP base.

[onecaliberal]

59. Troll bots

[JudyM]

142. I've thought they were real people but am starting to believe this, since they're so one-dimensional

Every.time.his.name.is.mentioned, away they go with the same ol same ol tirade. Like in this thread. You might be right.

[onecaliberal]

143. Seriously it's exactly like the primary. I don't believe for one second they're real people.

Those who are and choose to continue this bullshit are working against us all. Trump and respiblicans are the ones we need to defeat and resist. We can't continue the ridiculous dog and pony show that makes Bernie the enemy. Especially when he's done so much for so many for so long. It's counterproductive.

[Cha]

63. Oh maybe 'cause BS has been insulting our Democratic Party..

and he won't stop.

Why the hell can't he be called out on it? Hmm?

[ProfessorPlum]

70. I feel you

Seems pretty obvious, doesn't it

[ProfessorPlum]

72. Sanders must be doing something for/with the Democrats that

certain forces don't like.

[WomenRising2017]

101. like what?

[Dopers_Greed]

75. Reason: with all the horrible stuff Chump and the Repugs are doing out in the open...

...Sanders is nitpicking about how the DNC is running things internally.

[Gothmog]

80. The facts in this thread are not good for sanders

I admit that I really found Sanders' statement to be extremely selfish and disappointing https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028950982

[TygrBright]

82. Normal response to the sudden uptick of pro-Bernie threads. n/t

[johnp3907]

83. I like this song:

[GliderGuider]

85. It has become difficult to tell genuine sentiment from botnet droppings

For example, I was actually convinced that Stein was a legitimate GP candidate, and that Assange and Snowden were heroes of open democracy. And they all turned out to be representatives of Russia United.

Any time a division appears within the forces of the resistance, and is wedged open further by inflammatory sentiments, I get suspicious that shit is being stirred by "dark actors playing games."

It has become very hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys. FBI? CIA? NSA? Good guys or bad guys? Progressive politicians and senior party staff- good or bad? It's impossible to tell, due to the FUD and mindfucks that have been spread by the botnets.

That loss of confidence and trust is a disaster for a democracy.

[TheDebbieDee]

89. Russian trolls are still TROLLING!

You don't think they wait til elections season to start factioning Dems, do you?

[RKP5637]

92. My thoughts too!!! n/t

[democrank]

93. Some people are professional Bernie haters.

Apparently they believe the only way to turn red states blue is through hating Bernie, disparaging Independents and those on the "far left"....and making it clear that any discussions of changes needed in the Democratic Party will not be tolerated.

Unless this demand for party purity changes, the number of Independents will only grow.

[mac56]

98. Well, my ignore list has grown tonight.

Not easily, because there were many posters I generally enjoy.

There are bigger forces at work here and I refuse to be manipulated.

[RandySF]

102. He made it clear last night that he is not a Democrat

So it's a non-issue.

[KentuckyWoman]

103. Partly Netvocates and bots

Been seeing it on the DU since my sister got me hooked in 2006. It speaks to how influential this website is

The other part is the factoid of the day breaks and opinions are like hiney holes.

This is my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

104. duh. great man - very bad timing. In an election so important even a small

fraction of people who stayed home or bad-mouthed Hillary took a toll.

[tallahasseedem]

105. We're not re-fighting the Primary.

We're sick of an Independent trying to tell another party what to do and questioning an ACTUAL Democrat running in a very important race.

So no worries. Back to the Pine Barrens.

[gordianot]

107. I guess Trump does not give people enough cause for concern.

Treason with a foreign enemy, pure corruption for personal profit at levels never seen in the executive branch, threatening nuclear war in Southeast Asia, signs of mental illness in the chief executive, the federal government is becoming a shambles as institutions are purposely sabatoged. This is a time for resistance not petty division.

[Lil Missy]

110. "anti-Bernie" is not the same thing as "refighting the Primary".

Nobody gets a blank check.

[betsuni]

112. You know, Bernie Sanders is still alive. He's still a Senator. He's still talking in public.

He's in a leadership position. I thought constructive criticism of the things establishment politicians say was good so future campaigns can be successful. Now suddenly it's bad?

[LittleBlue]

113. This site isn't very underground

More like centrist establishment

[CentralMass]

114. I just trash the threads.

[Alice11111]

117. Lots of OCD people who are making people hostile to

The Dem party. I didn't even vote fot the guy, but I am sick and tired of the constant venum. I can imagine how his supporters must feel...like avoiding all the bile being flung at them.

[Cha]

119. So you label us OCD because we're calling out BS on

his insulting the Democratic Party?

And, now you're being insulting.. this is what BS is being called out on..

Accusing the Democratic Party of being.. "feeble" and "can't fight back"on Rachel's Show and "..the Democratic Party of the elite" in Boston with Senator Warren..

When ssarandon is the Elitist..

Who suckered the LOW INFORMATION voters with LIES like these..

"The prominent Sanders backer also predicted that a Hillary Clinton indictment was "inevitable"

Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton more dangerous than Donald Trump

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/03/susan_sarandon_hillary_clinton_more_dangerous_than_donald_trump/

poor ssarandon "had to change her phone number.." while the rest of the country that isn't so well off have to worry about this among other trumpshite..

Link to tweet

..he insults Dems Who are out there on the Front Lines Fighting for our Very Lives..

He's Wrong and Divisive.. only helping trump, the gop, and the m$m.

Dems have our BACKs and I have theirs.

Truth.. Our Dems ARE Fighting for us..

Democratic Congressman Calls for 'Total and Complete Shutdown' of Trump Agenda in Congress

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028837680

Maxine Waters? Tweets: Meet Donald Trump's Kremlin Klan

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028839413

Top Dem calls for investigation into House Intelligence chairman

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141736108

Schumer: Democrats will filibuster Gorsuch nomination

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141736192

Al Franken: What was Merrick Garland about?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028836324

Woah. Rep Schiff: New evidence of Trump/Russia collusion "would merit a grand jury investigation"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028840444

Thanks to Franken and Klobuchar for helping Dems understand why Gorsuch must be filibustered

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028838216

And, this..

FactCheck.org: Sanders Wrong on Voter Turnout

Sanders Wrong on Voter Turnout

snip//

Sanders, April 16: So many of our people are giving up on the political process. It is very frightening. In the last presidential election, when Trump won, we had the lowest voter turnout over — in 20 years. And in the previous two years before that, in the midterm election, we had the lowest voter turnout in 70 years.

Sen. Bernie Sanders wrongly claimed that voter turnout in 2016 was “the lowest … in 20 years.” In fact, turnout was higher than it was in 2012.

The overall turnout was 60.2 percent in 2016, up from 58.6 percent four years earlier. In addition, the percentage of eligible voters casting ballots for president in 2016 was 59.3 percent — the third highest in the last 44 years. Only 2008 and 2004 were higher.

More..
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/sanders-wrong-voter-turnout/

If he didn't insult us all the time.. I wouldn't be calling him out. He's divisive and wrong.

[Alice11111]

148. I'll never defend Susan Sarandon. I love Maxine, Elijah, &

Many of our Democratic leaders. However, even though I never voted for him, IMHO, Bernie, warts and all, deserves credit for sticking out his neck& keeping his nose to the grindstone and fighting for our democracy, even though he is not technically a Democrat. He could make it easier by just joining up, but that's his choice for whatever reason. I'm just saying, give the guy a break.

[synergie]

125. Um, that's not what OCD is, and it's rather insulting to those suffering from

this condition and the people who are being attacked for daring to point out that the guy's statements on a daily basis are irritating people who make up the Democratic party.

We too are sick of the constant venom coming from him and his supporters, who seem to think that playing victim will blind everyone to who is throwing that substance that is not bile.

Also, please learn what OCD is and why using it to insult people is disrespectful. Also, pay some attention to the trajectory of that venom, the hostility you're picking up on has a little something to do with what's constantly being flung at Democrats, we're getting tired of all the ridiculous abuse.

[Alice11111]

149. I'm not a psyc. You probably are. The term is overused all of

the time by layman, who intend no technical, DSM, meaning. I was not using it as defined in the DSM.

I'm just saying, give the guy a break. He is energetically advocating for progressive causes, and he does have many people who HEAR him, who didn't hear traditional Democrats. This is so silly. I didn't even vote for him, but it is ridiculous when we can't even recognize his efforts.

[WinkyDink]

118. WHY, on "DEMOCRATIC Underground," are there FIFTEEN THREADS on this man?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Warren DeMontague]

120. GMOs.

GMOs are to blame.

[delisen]

121. Do you have specific evidence of anti-Bernie threads.

I've seen several threads started by pro-Sanders posters.

[synergie]

122. You mean the threads addressing the things Bernie said today and yesteday?

Apparently some people can't figure out that addressing what he's currently saying has nothing to do with last year.

Yes, here we are with a torrent of threads addressing the mean and stupendously ridiculous things Bernie has been saying on his book tour.

A skeptic might wonder if all the "why are you bashing Bernie by quoting his own words" threads are being orchestrated by the toxic element that has been at play here with their torrent of "Praise be upon Bernie" threads in the past couple of weeks.

The projection is amazing, not very convincing though.

[betsuni]

123. I know! Did something happen to time? Is time broken?

[uponit7771]

124. im hip!!!! people are totally not paying attention to Sanders recent shit

[LonePirate]

130. He reiterated yesterday he is not a Democrat so he's fair game around here, like it or not.

[Orsino]

132. He has a leadership position in the party, and his primary opponents do not.

And his independence does seem to be interfering with his duties.

[TNLib]

135. In the primary Bernie was a democrat now he's back to independent

Does that mean he is now fair game?

I believe so, if he keeps running his mouth and it's perceived to be hurting other democrats.

[BeckyDem]

140. At this point in time it might be better to let it play out. Nothing is resolved from the primary

and it probably never will be. Perez and Sanders are together on the unity tour but some seem to think that would translate to putting issues and differences aside. I don't agree with that point of view, they appear to be playing good cop-bad cop intentionally. We have John Conyers bill to address healthcare problems related to ACA, we have always had division within the party and we should be honest about why some support it and some are reluctant to do so. The donor class is real on our side and that is what the fight is about but some are so caught up in the personalities I think they are blind to what change is needed. Our losses are well over 900 hundred and it is not the blame of any one person within the Democratic Party. This push pull is going to happen for at least the next year and a half. Unity should not be interpreted as forgetting differences, they are real and must be sorted out. I get e-mails from Senators in the form of surveys and they are clearly looking to see what direction Democrats want them to go.