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michael44

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Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:22 PM Apr 2017

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) michael44 Apr 2017 OP
I vote for the journalists. MicaelS Apr 2017 #1
Really? jberryhill Apr 2017 #2
Welcome to DU maxsolomon Apr 2017 #3
Seriously? You're offering up North Korean propaganda as your first DU OP? SunSeeker Apr 2017 #4
Beats another bernie/hillary flamebait thread jberryhill Apr 2017 #20
Yes, I see the silver lining now! SunSeeker Apr 2017 #29
WE ALL SEE SILVER LINING IN SKY REJOICING IN VICTORY OF JUCHE IDEA OVER ENEMY LIES! jberryhill Apr 2017 #31
You're killing me. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #32
THAT'S HOW WE SWING IN GLORIOUS DPRK jberryhill Apr 2017 #36
Gosh! That looks fun! redwitch Apr 2017 #5
FUN IS INTEGRAL PART OF DEAR LEADER KIM IL SUNG'S PLAN FOR ADVANCEMENT OF JUCHE IDEA jberryhill Apr 2017 #8
lol! redwitch Apr 2017 #11
ITS DPRK-POP PARTY TIME GIFT FROM DEAR LEADER JUCHE KPOP HITS! jberryhill Apr 2017 #16
The Instagram user (and, no, I didn't even bother clicking). n/t demmiblue Apr 2017 #6
YOU ARE BLIND BY GENOCIDAL REGIME PUPPET MASTER LIES AGAINST DEAR LEADER! jberryhill Apr 2017 #12
The face of an oppressed country. bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #7
COMPARE TO HAPPY FACE OF CHILDREN LEADING NEXT GENERATION OF ADVANCEMENT OF JUCHE IDEA! jberryhill Apr 2017 #9
It's a beautiful country. Might be good if you visit and report back. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #10
WE START GO FUNDME FOR BOLD NEW POSTER TO VISIT AND REPORT BACK!!!! jberryhill Apr 2017 #13
Love the idea. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #14
PUNCH IT! jberryhill Apr 2017 #15
I would not describe the life portrayed in the Instagram images as "normal", especially when... Marengo Apr 2017 #17
lolllllllllllllllllllll RedWedge Apr 2017 #18
Welcome back Hannah Bell! tammywammy Apr 2017 #19
YOU! DISRUPTOR! YOU GO SIT OVER THERE! jberryhill Apr 2017 #23
LOL SunSeeker Apr 2017 #26
you beat me to it. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #24
I couldn't believe I was the first tammywammy Apr 2017 #25
YOU TWO DECIEVING LIARS ARE GIVING ME THE SAD! jberryhill Apr 2017 #33
DPRK AND JUCHE IDEA ARE ONE THAT MAKE BETTER WORLD FOR YOU AND ME jberryhill Apr 2017 #21
Just gonna leave this here Calculating Apr 2017 #22
jberryhill-That is some funny shit!! redstateblues Apr 2017 #27
DPRK INTERNET CAMPAIGN FOR TRUTH OF JUCHE IDEA IS BEST SHIT EVER! jberryhill Apr 2017 #39
actually we brought Japan to its knees dsc Apr 2017 #46
I don't buy what you are selling secondwind Apr 2017 #28
WE ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY YOUR PUPPET IMPERIAL CAPITALISM BUYING AND SELLING jberryhill Apr 2017 #34
what's with these life is great in north korea crap ? JI7 Apr 2017 #30
You win, you've convinced me. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #35
I doubt either the journalists or the Instagram posts are "lying" fishwax Apr 2017 #37
Aren't you just the most adorable thing ever? Codeine Apr 2017 #38
NO THIS IS MOST ADORABLE THING jberryhill Apr 2017 #43
Picking out dinner? GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #48
We have catfish. They have tilapia puppies. hunter Apr 2017 #50
I wish DU had an upvote system just for this comment XD Oneironaut Apr 2017 #61
Well let me know about an airline ticket mountain grammy Apr 2017 #40
I would check out all the other North Korean Instagram photos HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #41
Cannibalism enid602 Apr 2017 #42
YOU SPREAD LIE! jberryhill Apr 2017 #47
DU is a propaganda-free zone. MineralMan Apr 2017 #44
JUST LIKE DPRK WHICH HAS BANISHED ALL PROPAGANDA jberryhill Apr 2017 #45
It's gotta be the hair!!! LeftInTX Apr 2017 #49
This is just classic. Lmao Oneironaut Apr 2017 #62
This is pure propaganda. Archae Apr 2017 #51
You won't last long here..... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #52
Based on what I know I wouldn't go there. Any country that doesn't allow free emigration... PoliticAverse Apr 2017 #53
This reminds me of a famous thread from days gone by... A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2017 #54
shopping in North Korea rollin74 Apr 2017 #55
very empty JI7 Apr 2017 #63
Give the N Korean government credit for convincingly staging photos to make life there seem "normal" WillowTree Apr 2017 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #57
can you give us details ? JI7 Apr 2017 #58
I looked at the photos, and after careful moonscape Apr 2017 #59
Do you have any photos from the concentration camps? oberliner Apr 2017 #60
Inside North Korea (in 3 parts) yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #64
Where did you go Mr. 44? Is it sleepy time right now in your time zone? snooper2 Apr 2017 #65

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
1. I vote for the journalists.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:24 PM
Apr 2017

And those that have escaped from the North. I am willing to bet those Instagram users were only allowed to photograph certain approved scenes.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Really?
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:31 PM
Apr 2017

How about they let some tourists visit and travel about for a look-see?

How about they let their own people out and about for a look-see?

How about they let their people watch what they want on TV or listen to foreign radio?

I visited Beijing a while back, which was a closed country for much of my youth. I'm sure there was all kinds of surveillance, just as in, say, London. But nobody was telling me where I could go or what I could photograph.

There is no instagram account originating in the DPRK that isn't showing anything other than what they want to show you.

There are many independent visitors and journalists to the DPRK with consistent reports of how tightly that place is controlled, that nobody is controlling what we know about the DPRK.

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
3. Welcome to DU
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:32 PM
Apr 2017

Comrade!

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
4. Seriously? You're offering up North Korean propaganda as your first DU OP?
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:35 PM
Apr 2017
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Beats another bernie/hillary flamebait thread
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:06 PM
Apr 2017

This thread is going places!

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
29. Yes, I see the silver lining now!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:26 PM
Apr 2017
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. WE ALL SEE SILVER LINING IN SKY REJOICING IN VICTORY OF JUCHE IDEA OVER ENEMY LIES!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:31 PM
Apr 2017

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
32. You're killing me.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:33 PM
Apr 2017


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
36. THAT'S HOW WE SWING IN GLORIOUS DPRK
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:41 PM
Apr 2017

redwitch

(14,941 posts)
5. Gosh! That looks fun!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:36 PM
Apr 2017

I think I want to move there!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. FUN IS INTEGRAL PART OF DEAR LEADER KIM IL SUNG'S PLAN FOR ADVANCEMENT OF JUCHE IDEA
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:41 PM
Apr 2017

EYES OF FOREIGN PUPPET-LED ENEMIES ARE OPENING TO WICKED DECEIVINGS OF USA AND ITS PUPPET STATES AND MORE OF THEIR OPPRESSED CITIZENS IN WANTING TO MOVE DPRK FOR COLLECTIVE MASS FUN TO HONOR DEAR LEADER KIM IL SUNG, GREAT GENERAL KIM JONG IL, AND RESPECTED DIMWIT KIM JONG UN.

LONG LIVE JUCHE IDEA! THEY GLEEFULLY REJOICE FOR DEMOCRATIC PEOPEL'S UNDERGROUND INTERNET SITE.

AND NOW WE FUN IN ANTHEM PERSONALLY DEDICATED TO THE PEOPLE BY DEAR LEADER:

redwitch

(14,941 posts)
11. lol!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:45 PM
Apr 2017
love this!
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. ITS DPRK-POP PARTY TIME GIFT FROM DEAR LEADER JUCHE KPOP HITS!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:54 PM
Apr 2017

demmiblue

(36,823 posts)
6. The Instagram user (and, no, I didn't even bother clicking). n/t
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:36 PM
Apr 2017
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. YOU ARE BLIND BY GENOCIDAL REGIME PUPPET MASTER LIES AGAINST DEAR LEADER!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:47 PM
Apr 2017

RANDOM STRANGER ON INSTAGRAM ALWAYS MORE TO TRUST GOOD THAN KNOWN PEOPLE IN COMPETITIVE PROFESSION SIGNING THEIRS!

JUCHE IDEA GIVE YOU BEAT THAT MAKE FEET MOVE:

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
7. The face of an oppressed country.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:40 PM
Apr 2017
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. COMPARE TO HAPPY FACE OF CHILDREN LEADING NEXT GENERATION OF ADVANCEMENT OF JUCHE IDEA!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:43 PM
Apr 2017
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. It's a beautiful country. Might be good if you visit and report back.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:44 PM
Apr 2017

Welcome to DU.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. WE START GO FUNDME FOR BOLD NEW POSTER TO VISIT AND REPORT BACK!!!!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:48 PM
Apr 2017
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. Love the idea.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:49 PM
Apr 2017

A free vacation for them.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. PUNCH IT!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:51 PM
Apr 2017

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
17. I would not describe the life portrayed in the Instagram images as "normal", especially when...
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:01 PM
Apr 2017

Compared to most of the rest of Asia. There is an overwhelmingly oppressive and even sinister dimension palpable in those images.

RedWedge

(618 posts)
18. lolllllllllllllllllllll
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:02 PM
Apr 2017

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
19. Welcome back Hannah Bell!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:05 PM
Apr 2017
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. YOU! DISRUPTOR! YOU GO SIT OVER THERE!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:11 PM
Apr 2017

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
26. LOL
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:20 PM
Apr 2017
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
24. you beat me to it.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:15 PM
Apr 2017

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
25. I couldn't believe I was the first
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:19 PM
Apr 2017

The stars aligned for me today.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
33. YOU TWO DECIEVING LIARS ARE GIVING ME THE SAD!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:33 PM
Apr 2017

THE WORLD RUNS CRYING FROM YOU!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. DPRK AND JUCHE IDEA ARE ONE THAT MAKE BETTER WORLD FOR YOU AND ME
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:07 PM
Apr 2017

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
22. Just gonna leave this here
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:09 PM
Apr 2017

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
27. jberryhill-That is some funny shit!!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:22 PM
Apr 2017
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
39. DPRK INTERNET CAMPAIGN FOR TRUTH OF JUCHE IDEA IS BEST SHIT EVER!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:47 PM
Apr 2017

dsc

(52,152 posts)
46. actually we brought Japan to its knees
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:58 PM
Apr 2017

with worse tech than that.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
28. I don't buy what you are selling
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:22 PM
Apr 2017
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. WE ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY YOUR PUPPET IMPERIAL CAPITALISM BUYING AND SELLING
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:34 PM
Apr 2017

JI7

(89,240 posts)
30. what's with these life is great in north korea crap ?
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:30 PM
Apr 2017

There was another thread last week and the poster kept ignoring when people pointed out how many things are staged and controlled.

It was the people who are critIcal of north korea that were the unreasonable ones.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. You win, you've convinced me.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:37 PM
Apr 2017

fishwax

(29,148 posts)
37. I doubt either the journalists or the Instagram posts are "lying"
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:45 PM
Apr 2017

There's nothing in those photos that really disputes the notion that prnk is a tightly controlled dictatorship in which life is difficult in all sorts of ways for all sorts of its citizens. Similarly, the reality that the place is a dictatorship run by a megalomaniacal nut job doesn't mean the people living there aren't human, or don't experience all sorts of moments of joy or pain or even what appears to be normalcy.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. Aren't you just the most adorable thing ever?
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:47 PM
Apr 2017

On the plus side we did get some valuable lessons in Juche philosophy from the thread, so it wasn't a complete waste of your time.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
43. NO THIS IS MOST ADORABLE THING
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 07:44 PM
Apr 2017


AND ALSO THERE ARE SOME PUPPIES.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
48. Picking out dinner?
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:23 PM
Apr 2017

hunter

(38,302 posts)
50. We have catfish. They have tilapia puppies.
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 12:11 AM
Apr 2017

That picture makes me laugh. I don't know why.

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
61. I wish DU had an upvote system just for this comment XD
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 10:14 AM
Apr 2017

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
40. Well let me know about an airline ticket
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:59 PM
Apr 2017

and booking a hotel in the "normal" world of NK. And if you do get there, remember not to remove any posters for souvenirs.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
41. I would check out all the other North Korean Instagram photos
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 07:22 PM
Apr 2017

Oh wait......

enid602

(8,594 posts)
42. Cannibalism
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 07:29 PM
Apr 2017

Google 'cannibalsm in North Korea. That should answer your question.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
47. YOU SPREAD LIE!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:59 PM
Apr 2017

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
44. DU is a propaganda-free zone.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 07:51 PM
Apr 2017
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
45. JUST LIKE DPRK WHICH HAS BANISHED ALL PROPAGANDA
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:54 PM
Apr 2017

AND IS ONLY PURE JUCHE IDEA ADVANCED BY SONGUN DOCTRINE OF GREAT GENERAL KIM JONG IL WHO STOOD WITH VALOR AGAINST ENEMY COLONEL SANDERS FROM WEST AND IMPERIALIST DESPOT GENERAL TSO FROM EAST SO THAT WE MAY REMAIN PURE PROPAGANDA FREE UNDER RESPECTED LEADER AND LADIES MAN KIM JONG UN.



LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
49. It's gotta be the hair!!!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:34 PM
Apr 2017

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
62. This is just classic. Lmao
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 10:16 AM
Apr 2017

Archae

(46,301 posts)
51. This is pure propaganda.
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 12:22 AM
Apr 2017

I used to see the "Maduro can do no wrong" people jumping up and putting out lots of pro-Maduro and Chavez propaganda whenever we questioned Maduro and his goons.

Likewise with Castro.

Apparently now we have a "Kim can do no wrong" propaganda division here.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
52. You won't last long here.....
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 01:09 AM
Apr 2017

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
53. Based on what I know I wouldn't go there. Any country that doesn't allow free emigration...
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 02:44 AM
Apr 2017

in a prison camp.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
54. This reminds me of a famous thread from days gone by...
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 02:49 AM
Apr 2017

oh i see it has already been noted above

rollin74

(1,971 posts)
55. shopping in North Korea
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 03:06 AM
Apr 2017

filmed by a foreign diplomat who lived there (until recently).. so obviously not the experience of a typical North Korean

general store



computer store!
&t=476s

JI7

(89,240 posts)
63. very empty
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 12:41 AM
Apr 2017

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
56. Give the N Korean government credit for convincingly staging photos to make life there seem "normal"
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 03:07 AM
Apr 2017

Response to michael44 (Original post)

JI7

(89,240 posts)
58. can you give us details ?
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 03:27 AM
Apr 2017

why and when you went ? what you saw ?

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
59. I looked at the photos, and after careful
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 05:10 AM
Apr 2017

consideration, I'll go with living accounts from journalists (and escaped citizens) over those images.

But thanks for asking.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
60. Do you have any photos from the concentration camps?
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 07:32 AM
Apr 2017

If so, please share.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
64. Inside North Korea (in 3 parts)
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 07:16 AM
Apr 2017




 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
65. Where did you go Mr. 44? Is it sleepy time right now in your time zone?
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 09:19 AM
Apr 2017
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