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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsM$M: We're CERTAIN there is no gerrymandering, no voter suppression, no swing state voter purges.
Because even though we KNOW that 3 million more people voted for Dems, and a million more than that were purged off voter rolls in swing states or suppressed through new state restrictions, it is now a CERTAINTY in the mainstream media that the Democratic Party and its 2016 platform are the problem because it is completely 'out of touch' with the American people and their issues.
Funny thing....when you poll citizens on the issues the vast majority side CONSISTENTLY with the Dem party on its platform and the issues and that it is, indeed, the GOP platform that is 'out of touch' with all but a minority of voters. Yet media never seems to notice that fact.
I wonder where the mainstream media gets the idea that the biggest political problem they need to push these days is that the 2016 loss is due to a Democratic Party whose platform is out of sync with the majority of the American people.
Who is telling the mainstream media to downplay the effect of the gerrymandering, the vote suppression, and the purging of voter rolls in swing states?
And Russian propaganda pushed into mainstream media and repeated constantly, of course, had zero effect, too, eh?
kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)Special kind of stupid people to fall for the rethug bull$hit.
blm
(113,047 posts).
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)If one thinks they will report People issues,forget about it. Not going to happen.
BumRushDaShow
(128,896 posts)(unfortunately)
Igel
(35,300 posts)In a lot of states, (D) outspent (R).
HRC outspent DT. And that's with a bit of free publicity from the President's support for the (D) candidate.
We remember races in which the (R) winner outspends the (D) loser because of the perceived injustice; and then we overgeneralize and forget all the times when (D) outspend and win or outspend and lose. Often the top-spending candidate loses. If people aren't interested in the latest book in Coptic by an Egyptian Christian writer and the Syriac-language series based on it, you can run commercials 24/7.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,409 posts)We've seen too many intelligent and otherwise competent candidates for public office be defeated time and time again because of the rather formidable right-wing smear machine- and all of the the people whom wittingly- or unwittingly- end up believing them, as well as the MSM that uncritically helps aid in the transmission of the smears. Just to think of what might have been with Presidents like Al Gore, John Kerry, or Hillary Clinton makes me sick, sad, and angry.
lame54
(35,287 posts)you know - those past century guys
and don't forget chimney sweeps and milkmen
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)think if anyone anytime on M$M even mentioned his name, much less his policies, caused them to be fined $500. If they did mention him by name, it was always in a disparaging way. Well, revenge comes now because most of the conversation centers around what he had to say during his speeches and with which most Americans agree. Yes, Bernie was my first choice, but I did vote for Hilary.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Or are you being sarcastic?
blm
(113,047 posts)Only the Russian propagandists and their sympathizers disingenuously furthered that claim, imo. They are the only ones who made me feel uncomfortable because I recognized what they were doing from the earliest days of the primary. I refused to be duped and used to destroy party unity as they expected from lefties like me.
I do clearly recall most media ignoring any good news for all Democrats in general in their push to run with the GOP's talking points, though.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)Shit!
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I believe I heard a short discussion on CrossCheck, I believe by Greg Palast, on MSNBC, maybe on Joy's show.
Palast has done extensive research on all this to dig up all that malfeasance.
His employment situation tells it all, nobody will hire him here he works for the BBC.
Gerrymandering gets way more play but then that bar is way low.
blm
(113,047 posts)What's a couple million voters here and there to corporate media? No concern at all. GOP has assured them it's all above aboard and Democrats are just trying to excuse their fecklessness with the voters. Amiright?
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)(From January 20, 2017)
"In a stunning revelation today, the Public Editor of the New York Times has announced that her newspaper held off from publishing a story during the election season about Donald Trump's secret ties to Russia, after the FBI discouraged publication.
She's acknowledging that the story could have 'upended' the presidential election between Trump and Hillary Clinton, and she's criticizing her own newspaper for being too 'timid' in pulling it's punches."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028506059
THAT'S what MSM does a lot....They fear upsetting the Hatch Act violator, James Comey, and his FBI, by publishing a story that the American public had a right to know, and which "could" have swung the election to Hillary Clinton.
MSM's refusal to cover GOP voter suppression programs (such as "Crosscheck" and the illegal GOP "purging of voter rolls in swing states." is reprehensible as well.
"It WAS a Coup...End of story".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512618383
In conclusion, an evil, lying, child-rapist now occupies the Oval Office because MSM refused to do their job and keep the American people informed, the way a "free press" ought to!
blm
(113,047 posts)so they needn't examine their own roles in furthering the propaganda fed them by the GOP lie machine.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)I'll never believe anything else.
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)Republicans can only steal elections that are close...(Barack Obama proved this in 2008 & 2012)
By October, 2016, the race was fairly close..Trump had moved up in the polls...then the Access Hollywood audio tape came out ("I grab 'em by the pussy" and then HRC moved up in the polls by around 11 points, and she likely would have kept that lead going into the election, but she lost that 11 point lead after James Comey's Oct. 28 letter full of lies about "new Clinton emails found".
Imo, were it not for Comey's letter, Trump would have lost, and we'd be discussing President Clinton now.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)But I believe it was stolen at the ballot box, plain and simple.. the vote in the swing states was stolen! Nothing could ever convince me otherwise.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)no doubt
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Or the First Amendment ain't shit.
While you're at it, remove it from health care as well.
Give me 100 days, I'll get it done for you. *wink*
blm
(113,047 posts)I think I could be asst. manager on that project. *wink, wink*