Mon Apr 24, 2017, 11:21 PM
ProudLib72 (17,984 posts)
Will tRump Allow China to End NK Hostilities?Last edited Mon Apr 24, 2017, 11:55 PM - Edit history (1)
Serious question. Can he let China be the negotiator and take the credit, or is he going to attack NK no matter what? If he and the GOP condemn Iran and threaten them because they are upset that the pact made by Obama is working, how much worse must the feel that a non-western "money-manipulating" country is in the diplomatic driver's seat?
|
19 replies, 3393 views
![]() |
Author | Time | Post |
![]() |
ProudLib72 | Apr 2017 | OP |
SaschaHM | Apr 2017 | #1 | |
AJT | Apr 2017 | #4 | |
PoliticAverse | Apr 2017 | #2 | |
fun n serious | Apr 2017 | #3 | |
ProudLib72 | Apr 2017 | #5 | |
JI7 | Apr 2017 | #6 | |
ProudLib72 | Apr 2017 | #7 | |
JI7 | Apr 2017 | #8 | |
HoneyBadger | Apr 2017 | #9 | |
ProudLib72 | Apr 2017 | #13 | |
HoneyBadger | Apr 2017 | #15 | |
ProudLib72 | Apr 2017 | #16 | |
HoneyBadger | Apr 2017 | #17 | |
Warren DeMontague | Apr 2017 | #10 | |
HoneyBadger | Apr 2017 | #11 | |
JI7 | Apr 2017 | #12 | |
LanternWaste | Apr 2017 | #18 | |
HoneyBadger | Apr 2017 | #19 | |
Kentonio | Apr 2017 | #14 |
Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 11:23 PM
SaschaHM (2,897 posts)
1. He will let China negotiate and then he will take credit. nt.
Response to SaschaHM (Reply #1)
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 11:53 PM
AJT (5,155 posts)
4. Yep, he'll claim it was his meeting with Xi, that it was their
"chemistry" that got China to deal with NK.
|
Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 11:28 PM
PoliticAverse (22,509 posts)
2. Anything good that happens Trump will take the credit, anything bad that happens....
Trump will blame someone else, regardless of who is really responsible.
|
Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 11:31 PM
fun n serious (4,451 posts)
3. This looks like Iraq all over again,
I think Trump will go after NK no matter what, even if t here is diplomatic progress..
|
Response to fun n serious (Reply #3)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:00 AM
ProudLib72 (17,984 posts)
5. He has to go after someone
That is a certainty. There are a whole lot of other countries I would rather he attack (I can't believe I just wrote that
![]() |
Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:08 AM
JI7 (82,564 posts)
6. he will let china do whatever the fuck they want as long as it benefits his private business
Response to JI7 (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:14 AM
ProudLib72 (17,984 posts)
7. Remember, though
He called out China's "unfair" trade practices at the same time he was making business deals with them to produce his crap. I'm not sure he even remembers that he has business ties with China.
|
Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #7)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:20 AM
JI7 (82,564 posts)
8. that was just campaign talk . he wasn't actually going to do anything that would hurt his businesses
ivanka got some deal with the chinese president visit already.
|
Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 02:48 AM
HoneyBadger (2,297 posts)
9. What NK hostilities?
They mostly kill their own people, which for some reason does not bother us as much as when Iraq or Syria do it. They have arrested a bunch of Americans in recent days, which Trump (and America) have not seen fit to respond to. Are these the hostilities?
|
Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #9)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 10:39 AM
ProudLib72 (17,984 posts)
13. Missile testing
nuclear buildup, that sort of crap. The rhetoric they've been spewing about how they are aren't afraid of war. tRump buys into it and responds in kind.
|
Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #13)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:18 AM
HoneyBadger (2,297 posts)
15. How do you solve a problem like Korea....it's an old problem
Set over the Sound of Music song that is coincidentally similar
The New Year brings new problems to the Bush administration, mainly because of Kim Jong Il, the ruler of North Korea. (As sung by Secretary of State Colin Powell, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, and President George W. Bush) Powell: What do we see That guy named Kim He's acting without care Rumsfeld: He's starting all his weapons plants We found out, he don't care Rice: Now things aren't so simple With Saddam, they're quite a pair Powell, Rumsfeld, Rice: So what are we gonna do with this Kimmy? Powell: When he says that he'll do this thing We know that it ain't for real Rumsfeld: He always lies 'bout everything Rice: We shouldn't cut a deal Bush: From all of which, I take it, That you very firmly feel All: That Kim is just a little bit crazy! Rice: I'd like to say a word in his behalf. That Kim, he is quite fat! All: How do you solve a problem like Korea? How do you deal with nuts and bring them down? How do you deal with the ruler of Korea? Powell: This Kim, he should go Rumsfeld: A big fat buffoon Rice: A clown! All: Maybe we ought to send all of our bombers After we've bombed Saddam into the sand Powell: But for now we're gonna say That his nukes uh uh, no way Rumsfeld: Or else that Kim will end up like Saddam Rice: Oh, how do you solve a problem like Korea? Bush: No, we won't give in to this nut's demands |
Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #15)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:40 AM
ProudLib72 (17,984 posts)
16. Well, that took a bit of work!
And it's funny you should have set the scene in Iraq under Bush because I was drawing the parallels last night. The removal of one dangerous dictator versus another. I want to state that I have absolutely no problem removing Kim Jong Il by force. However, I have a major problem with his removal being orchestrated by the tRump administration.
|
Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #16)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 03:33 PM
HoneyBadger (2,297 posts)
17. Copied and pasted, not my work 😜
Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 02:56 AM
Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)
10. I'm not sure what there is to negotiate. NK's business model is built on extortion.
Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 03:05 AM
HoneyBadger (2,297 posts)
11. What would Trump do if North Korea attacked Ivanka and her kids?
They got his brother in an airport. Ivanka and the kids fly commercial airlines. If Kim Jong is willing to kill his own people (brother of Dear Leader being considered one's own people), it is not a stretch to see him going after a US President's own people.
|
Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #11)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 03:11 AM
JI7 (82,564 posts)
12. attacking a foreign national and especially daughter of president is different
than going after one of your own .
|
Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #11)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 03:40 PM
LanternWaste (36,772 posts)
18. Yes. Yes it is a stretch.
Yes. Yes it is quite a stretch.
![]() |
Response to LanternWaste (Reply #18)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 03:50 PM
HoneyBadger (2,297 posts)
19. For many of us, it is stretch to kill a brother
It is more of a stretch? Not for many.
|
Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 10:41 AM
Kentonio (4,377 posts)
14. He seems to have a massive man-crush on Xi at the moment
So anything is possible really.
|