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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 07:55 AM Apr 2017

Mystery as world's-biggest-rabbit contender dies on United Airlines flight to O'Hare

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/26/mystery-over-giant-rabbits-death-united-flight/100920770/

LONDON — A giant rabbit died in unexplained circumstances on a United Airlines flight from Britain to Chicago in the latest unfortunate incident to hit the beleaguered airline, British media reported Wednesday.

Simon, a 3-foot, 10-month-old Continental Giant rabbit, was found dead after the Boeing 767 landed at Chicago O’Hare International Airport following its departure from London Heathrow, the Sun newspaper reported.

Rabbit breeder Annette Edwards told the newspaper that the rabbit, which was likely to grow to be the biggest in the world after its father Darius held the title of the world’s biggest rabbit at 4ft 4in long, was being transported to its new celebrity owner. It wasn't immediately clear when the incident occurred and what caused the animal's death.

“Simon had a vet’s check-up three hours before the flight and was fit as a fiddle,” Edwards told the Sun. “Something very strange has happened and I want to know what. I’ve sent rabbits all around the world and nothing like this has happened before. The client who bought Simon is very famous. He’s upset.”

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Mystery as world's-biggest-rabbit contender dies on United Airlines flight to O'Hare (Original Post) jpak Apr 2017 OP
NO'Hare masmdu Apr 2017 #1
Well played. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #2
ROFL! tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #9
A fitting tribute to Pinboy malaise Apr 2017 #15
Just what I was thinking. Chiyo-chichi Apr 2017 #17
pinboy would be laughing and trying to best you! nolabear Apr 2017 #18
WO'Hare boston bean Apr 2017 #28
Duzy!! dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 #40
Totally awesome! WinkyDink Apr 2017 #46
United's scandals continue to multiply Orrex Apr 2017 #3
Celebrity? I dont think Beiber should get a monster bunny until he accounts for his monkey first. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #5
Dude, it's a 3 foot long rabbit. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #4
The rabbit was a "Flemish Giant" Manly_Scream Apr 2017 #14
So, the deceased was the hare apparent? Orrex Apr 2017 #21
Condolences to his hairy parent. oasis Apr 2017 #22
*groan* dixiegrrrrl Apr 2017 #41
Interesting. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #25
I really don't think United's at fault here... Manly_Scream Apr 2017 #43
Jesus, That's a big fucking rabbit. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #48
Would you Manly_Scream Apr 2017 #56
I WOULD DEMAND MY HASENPFEFFER Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #57
Bloodthirsty killers jberryhill Apr 2017 #27
Flemish Giants and Continentals are different breeds Horse with no Name Apr 2017 #31
Thanks for the correction. Manly_Scream Apr 2017 #44
The in-flight movie starred Bugs Bunny and the rabbit had a reaction to Elmer Fudd. randome Apr 2017 #6
.... Lochloosa Apr 2017 #12
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #24
It's "wascally". nt Ilsa Apr 2017 #39
The stress of travel can often cause hare loss. Orrex Apr 2017 #7
LOL! tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #10
Winner B2G Apr 2017 #13
Mic drop. nolabear Apr 2017 #19
Well played underpants Apr 2017 #32
Stole your line for Facebook underpants Apr 2017 #47
You have some sick friends! Orrex Apr 2017 #50
Hare today. Gone tomorrow. Raster Apr 2017 #51
Guess he won't make the next hop in his trip Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #8
Yes! Orrex Apr 2017 #11
"Rabbits On A Plane" -starring Samuel Jackson! randome Apr 2017 #16
Get these motherfucking rabbits off this motherfucking plane! Initech Apr 2017 #20
So the vet did him in, eh? Follow the insurance money. randome Apr 2017 #23
He pbviously wasn't vetted. boston bean Apr 2017 #30
Ahhh! randome Apr 2017 #34
Kudos to United jberryhill Apr 2017 #26
Rabbits die when they get stressed Horse with no Name Apr 2017 #29
Let me guess...... DFW Apr 2017 #33
Pets get killed in cargo all the time. Always have them on the plane under the seat & have them kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #35
Hate to say, but they should have bought two seats and strapped the rabbit crate next to them. haele Apr 2017 #36
That's considered harey carry Orrex Apr 2017 #53
Hare today, goon tomorrow lindysalsagal Apr 2017 #37
Maybe they forgot to pressurize the hold. Alw secondwind Apr 2017 #38
I don't think it's an option to not pressurize the cargo hull. Thor_MN Apr 2017 #49
Pilots are always notified if there are live animals in cargo. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #52
Was Glenn Close on this flight? nt TeamPooka Apr 2017 #42
So the rabbit ran out of luck GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #45
Ok so maybe Duncan Hunter flying his kid's rabbit first class Liberty Belle Apr 2017 #54
Must have been stung by a scorpion. Was there a doctor on board? n/t woodsprite Apr 2017 #55

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
9. ROFL!
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:18 AM
Apr 2017

Holy crap, I needed that in a really bad way. DUzy, best line, give you all the awards....

ROFL!!!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
4. Dude, it's a 3 foot long rabbit.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:06 AM
Apr 2017

There's probably a reason rabbits arent normally that big.

I'm not sure this qualifies as a mystery, sherlock.

Manly_Scream

(72 posts)
14. The rabbit was a "Flemish Giant"
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:18 AM
Apr 2017

Or "Continental Giant" as people in the UK call them.

They've existed for at least 100 years and are always at least 3 feet tall.

This rabbit's father is 4 feet, and 9 years old (elderly for a rabbit.)

What *is* concerning however is the age of the rabbit (it was only 10 months old)

Rabbits are an animal that can literally get scared to death. Even my 4-year-old rabbit was getting jittery at the beginning of a car ride, until I kept calming and comforting him (my rabbit lived to be 8 and a half).

I wonder if that's what happened to Simon.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. Interesting.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 05:58 PM
Apr 2017

It was probably his first time on a plane, I'd wager that had something to do with it. Plus it was united.

I apologize for not being able to come up with some rabbit puns.

Manly_Scream

(72 posts)
43. I really don't think United's at fault here...
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:19 PM
Apr 2017

Simon's breeder said she's had rabbits on planes before and this never happened.

But how *old* were those rabbits? Had they been on car rides before going on a plane?

What's more, according to HuffPo, Simon was 50 pounds.

It's one thing for a rabbit that's 4'4" to weigh that much, but at 3 feet, that could be too fat, rendering the rabbit's heart weaker than average.

She said the vet said he was "perfectly healthy" but I think some vets out there have given up on telling owners that they're turning their animals into fatasses (according to my Grandma, the vet's okay with the family pug being 30 pounds)

Here in this video, the breeder says that another rabbit named "Jeffery" (also a product of Darius) is "next in line to hold the title" but NOW supposedly it was the very young Simon, who didn't even exist when this video was uploaded :

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I wouldn't go as far as to say she's abusing her rabbits, but considering how up in age Darius is, perhaps she's eager to hold onto the spotlight of having the "biggest rabbits ever" and is cramming more calories into Darius's litter than what is optimum.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
31. Flemish Giants and Continentals are different breeds
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:09 PM
Apr 2017

They are close and some people cross breed them but they carry different color traits.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. The in-flight movie starred Bugs Bunny and the rabbit had a reaction to Elmer Fudd.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:11 AM
Apr 2017

Somebody in authority needs to hop to it and solve this rascally mystery.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
16. "Rabbits On A Plane" -starring Samuel Jackson!
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:27 AM
Apr 2017

Eh. Maybe not.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
23. So the vet did him in, eh? Follow the insurance money.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:01 AM
Apr 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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DFW

(54,341 posts)
33. Let me guess......
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:15 PM
Apr 2017

The plane was overbooked, and the rabbit got strangled after it refused to give up its seat for a few of United's rodents?

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
35. Pets get killed in cargo all the time. Always have them on the plane under the seat & have them
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:17 PM
Apr 2017

sedated. It is freezing cold in cargo most of the time.

haele

(12,646 posts)
36. Hate to say, but they should have bought two seats and strapped the rabbit crate next to them.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:39 PM
Apr 2017

Especially since the rabbit was too large to go under the seat. Or made arrangements to ship over with a shipper that specializes in special cargo and animals. Racing season is starting up, so there would have been several flights for horses from Europe that would have vet techs aboard in case there's trouble available to hitch a ride with.

A few decades ago, I shipped my two kitties with me when I was working out of state several times in a single medium sized dog crate (so they could be together and comfort each other) using Delta, as they had the best reputation for transport of pets in the 1980's and 1990's. But even then, I made sure the stewardesses would check on them during the flight every time after we stopped.

Rabbits are very nervous creatures, and I wouldn't trust shipping them - or birds, for that matter - in the "pressurized cargo" hold section along with the rest of baggage. They can die of fear, and tranquilizers can wear off during long flights.

Haele

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
38. Maybe they forgot to pressurize the hold. Alw
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 07:03 PM
Apr 2017

Always remind them if you have a pet traveling in the luggage hold

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
49. I don't think it's an option to not pressurize the cargo hull.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:45 PM
Apr 2017

The whole plane is pressurized, with the exception of the wheel wells.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,670 posts)
52. Pilots are always notified if there are live animals in cargo.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:12 PM
Apr 2017

All aircraft cargo holds are pressurized but some sections are not heated. Cargo loaders are instructed always to place live animals in whichever hold is heated. If the cargo heating system fails with animals on board (and there is an indicator in the cockpit that lets the crew know), the pilot will land to keep them from freezing - at least, that was the rule at the airline I used to work at.

Even so, I'd never ship an animal in cargo because even though it's reasonably warm and pressurized, it will still be dark and noisy and stressful. The problem might be is that most airlines have size restrictions for animals carried in the cabin (typically they have to be small enough to ride in a carrier that fits under the seat), and they have to be accompanied by a passenger. This, unfortunately, was a 50-lb. rabbit.

I have heard rabbits are very easily stressed, so maybe United didn't do anything wrong (this time).

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
54. Ok so maybe Duncan Hunter flying his kid's rabbit first class
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:33 PM
Apr 2017

wasn't stupid after all, just corrupt in using his campaign funds to pay for it.

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