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(85,977 posts)
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 10:27 AM Apr 2017

Trump Frustrated With Failures, Anxious to Rig the System

Trump looked at his string of failures in his 100 days in office and decided democracy doesn't suit his autocratic expectations of getting his way like he did in his private life of wealth and luxury.

He's discovered the U.S. isn't a corporation where it's citizens are subordinate to the will and whim of the Executive, but a confluence of interests - and the government he's been chosen to lead is meant to reconcile those disparate interests and concerns from myriad, diverse regions of the nation into action or law.

Totally predictable to find Trump this week talking wistfully about his former life/job, and how much harder he finds the work of the presidency (how easy must his former job have been, considering how many weekends he's bugged out to his luxury resorts since he took office?).

Very much in character with his right-wing party to find Trump anxious to change the rules and rig the system to shortcut his way to getting what he wants.

Here's Trump in an interview with Fox News airing Friday night:

“We don't have a lot of closers in politics, and I understand why: It's a very rough system. It's an archaic system.”

“You look at the rules of the Senate, even the rules of the House — but the rules of the Senate and some of the things you have to go through — it's really a bad thing for the country, in my opinion. They're archaic rules. And maybe at some point we're going to have to take those rules on, because, for the good of the nation, things are going to have to be different.”

“You can't go through a process like this. It's not fair. It forces you to make bad decisions. I mean, you're really forced into doing things that you would normally not do except for these archaic rules...”

read/watch interview: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/29/trump-is-now-talking-about-consolidating-his-own-power/?utm_term=.0c9cf5f2abd7



Contrast that with Barack Obama in his farewell speech, wisdom from experience:

"– our democracy is threatened whenever we take it for granted. All of us, regardless of party, should throw ourselves into the task of rebuilding our democratic institutions. When voting rates are some of the lowest among advanced democracies, we should make it easier, not harder, to vote. When trust in our institutions is low, we should reduce the corrosive influence of money in our politics, and insist on the principles of transparency and ethics in public service. When Congress is dysfunctional, we should draw our districts to encourage politicians to cater to common sense and not rigid extremes.

And all of this depends on our participation; on each of us accepting the responsibility of citizenship, regardless of which way the pendulum of power swings.

Our Constitution is a remarkable, beautiful gift. But it’s really just a piece of parchment. It has no power on its own.

We, the people, give it power – with our participation, and the choices we make. Whether or not we stand up for our freedoms. Whether or not we respect and enforce the rule of law. America is no fragile thing. But the gains of our long journey to freedom are not assured.

In his own farewell address, George Washington wrote that self-government is the underpinning of our safety, prosperity, and liberty, but “from different causes and from different quarters much pains will be taken…to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth;” that we should preserve it with “jealous anxiety;” that we should reject “the first dawning of every attempt to alienate any portion of our country from the rest or to enfeeble the sacred ties” that make us one.

We weaken those ties when we allow our political dialogue to become so corrosive that people of good character are turned off from public service; so coarse with rancor that Americans with whom we disagree are not just misguided, but somehow malevolent. We weaken those ties when we define some of us as more American than others; when we write off the whole system as inevitably corrupt, and blame the leaders we elect without examining our own role in electing them.

It falls to each of us to be those anxious, jealous guardians of our democracy; to embrace the joyous task we’ve been given to continually try to improve this great nation of ours. Because for all our outward differences, we all share the same proud title: Citizen."


Amen.
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Trump Frustrated With Failures, Anxious to Rig the System (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2017 OP
Nobody forced him to make bad decisions underpants Apr 2017 #1
A contrast so sharp it hurts. JNelson6563 Apr 2017 #2
K&R for exposure of this wannabe tinhorn dictator meow2u3 Apr 2017 #3
his idea would be to throw the whole thing out-- ginnyinWI Apr 2017 #4
When will the so-called strict constitutionalists realize... Beartracks Apr 2017 #9
Yep, that is what he wants to be a king/emperor where what he says is IT... iluvtennis Apr 2017 #19
He really thinks we would be better off if we had a king. chelsea0011 Apr 2017 #5
That's what chump 43 said Canoe52 Apr 2017 #15
Speaking of archaic rules, Donnie, how'd that Electoral College work for ya? JHB Apr 2017 #6
Tin-pot wannabe. He needs to go. The entire mal-administration needs to go. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #7
Trump: "Democracy is old news and too hard." Beartracks Apr 2017 #8
Well, don't forget... 2naSalit Apr 2017 #10
Autocracies ar much more efficient... Adrahil Apr 2017 #11
what's the saying? 'dumber than a bag of hammers'? spanone Apr 2017 #12
Of course, Trump's statement is based on HIM being in control. world wide wally Apr 2017 #13
This has been the Republican ideal for "improving" our government for years: DFW Apr 2017 #14
It's all democracy's fault! NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #16
He's also expressed his hatred for his own Executive Branch BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #21
He is a sick, sick man. smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #22
Prophetic erpowers Apr 2017 #17
Archaic Senate rules, like Rule 19? oberliner Apr 2017 #18
Kochs and ALEC BadgerMom Apr 2017 #20
This idiot needs a special enema formula -- he's really full of chit. ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #23
Groper Don the Con is a fascist malaise Apr 2017 #24

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
4. his idea would be to throw the whole thing out--
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 10:38 AM
Apr 2017

Washington, Franklin, Jefferson and Adams be damned!

And replace it with, I don't know--something like a one person rule, maybe! Maybe Kim Jung-Un is on to something!

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
9. When will the so-called strict constitutionalists realize...
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:05 AM
Apr 2017

... Trump is not their friend?

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iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
19. Yep, that is what he wants to be a king/emperor where what he says is IT...
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:00 PM
Apr 2017

...and nothing else matters. As a CEO he could do that. That's not the way the presidency works. A moron is occupying our White House and I want him out.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
5. He really thinks we would be better off if we had a king.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 10:39 AM
Apr 2017

His lack of understanding of government and why it is like this to get things done is truly frightening. He probably looks to Saudi Arabia has the best system to get things done.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
6. Speaking of archaic rules, Donnie, how'd that Electoral College work for ya?
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 10:39 AM
Apr 2017

Textbook case of "really forced into doing things that you would normally not do except for these archaic rules", eh?

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
7. Tin-pot wannabe. He needs to go. The entire mal-administration needs to go.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 10:59 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)

It's not enough to simply toss them from office either. They should all become cautionary tales.

Much like the Bush administration, I'm all for putting them in a zoo of sorts, where people can come and gawk at what dangers to democracy and freedom look like. Where docents give educational tours, free of any mitigating language, explaining how and why they are dangers to the country. To the world.

It's time to stop being tolerant of the ignorance that supports such people.

Opinions, ill-informed opinions at that, have been put on the same level as facts, and that has to change.

I know it would be cruel and unusual treatment to place them in zoos. So I am mainly expressing my frustration and not something I would actually support.

I disagree that some of my fellow citizens are simply misguided. They are malevolent. Their greed, their ignorance, their callous disregard for others makes them so.

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
8. Trump: "Democracy is old news and too hard."
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:03 AM
Apr 2017

There, I shortened his speech.

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2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
10. Well, don't forget...
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:09 AM
Apr 2017

George W. Bush
“If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier... as long as I'm the dictator. Hehehe.”


Although I am certain cheato's desire and intent is far worse.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
14. This has been the Republican ideal for "improving" our government for years:
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 12:06 PM
Apr 2017


"...just so long as I'm the dictator." It would appear that Trump agrees wholeheartedly.
No wonder they try to suppress voting rights wherever they can. It's just one step on the way ti their elimination altogether.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
16. It's all democracy's fault!
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 12:33 PM
Apr 2017
“You can't go through a process like this. It's not fair. It forces you to make bad decisions. I mean, you're really forced into doing things that you would normally not do except for these archaic rules...”


Yeah, let's get rid of the "archaic rules" like checks and balances that are the foundation of our democracy. They're to blame for the "bad decisions" Trump now admits to making.

So far, he's expressed his hatred of the judiciary, the Congress, and the media. And we're supposed to believe that he cares about this country and the people in it? Make no mistake; he's pressing for a dictatorship, and the Deplorables who defend him even now won't know what hit them.

BumRushDaShow

(128,508 posts)
21. He's also expressed his hatred for his own Executive Branch
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:33 PM
Apr 2017

by installing people whose only intention is to either dismantle the agency altogether or severely limit their missions and functions.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. He is a sick, sick man.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:38 PM
Apr 2017

If he can't be dictator, then there is something wrong with the SYSTEM as far as he is concerned. It would never occur to him that there is anything wrong with trying to impose your own will upon a nation of 300 million people, most of whom despise you and everything that you stand for.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
17. Prophetic
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 12:34 PM
Apr 2017

His farewall address now seems like he knew what was coming in the later months. Donald Trump is talking about reducing democracy. Barack Obama was warning against taking democracy for granted and allowing democracy to be taken from us.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Archaic Senate rules, like Rule 19?
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 12:59 PM
Apr 2017
On Tuesday night, Republicans handed Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) the equivalent of a red card when they voted along party lines that she violated Rule 19, a century-old rule prohibiting senators from insulting each other on the hallowed Senate floor

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/08/the-history-of-the-senates-rule-19-suggests-it-is-very-loosely-enforced/?utm_term=.a4a8960848ab

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
20. Kochs and ALEC
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:12 PM
Apr 2017

have an effort underway to convene a Constitutional Convention. Many state legislatures already have voted for it. The convergence of the Trump presidency and such a convention is a great fear of mine.

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