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Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:00 AM

This is the key point. This President is illegitimate.



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/the-specter-of-illegitimacy-haunts-trumps-first-100-days.html



AND SO IS PENCE
They were notified twice. Once by the Justice Dept. Once by Elijah Cummings. In writing. Guess who they told. Pence.
Here is the letter. Dated in November To Pence.

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Reply This is the key point. This President is illegitimate. (Original post)
kpete Apr 2017 OP
spanone Apr 2017 #1
herding cats Apr 2017 #2
Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #3
ck4829 Apr 2017 #4
Leith Apr 2017 #7
Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #11
Name removed Apr 2017 #5
Mc Mike Apr 2017 #6
thesquanderer Apr 2017 #8
ProudProgressiveNow Apr 2017 #9
Raster Apr 2017 #10
dalton99a Apr 2017 #12

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:01 AM

1. K&R...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:02 AM

2. Which is why we must resist!

K&R!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:06 AM

3. Slight correction. He is "allegedly" illegitimate

My wife asked me last night why the press carries on as if Trump isn't under FBI investigation, why they seem to normalize him, to treat him as if he was, in fact, the POTUS like Obama was the POTUS.

The simple answer is, until an indictment is handed down, he is presumed innocent, and the media has no choice but to show a modicum of deference.

On the other hand, in my opinion, the FBI investigation should be taking center stage for any conversations about Trump's presidency. I venture to guess that a Democratic president would be scrutinized in that manner.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:08 AM

4. The courts of public opinion and socially constructed realities don't need to wait for a Republican

congress that is no more legitimate than he is to start making their rulings about him right now.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:27 PM

7. The Media Is One-Sided

The simple answer is, until an indictment is handed down, he is presumed innocent,


How come the media and the rthugs didn't treat Clinton like she was innocent?

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Response to Leith (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:54 PM

11. Oh, no doubt, the media has a strong right-leaning bias

And you're right, they hung Hillary out to dry.

I truly wish they would temper every news report about Trump with the fact that he is presently under FBI investigation. It would at least put everything in perspective, and call into doubt his legitimacy for every act he takes.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:29 PM

8. Pence knowing about Flynn is not an argument for his being illegitimate.

But hopefully it can do damage anyway!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:34 PM

9. K&R nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:37 PM

10. The plan was always to have Pence* in a "plausibly deniable" position...

...because EVERYONE in the Rethuglican High Command did not expect tRump* to complete his term... I would not be surprised if somewhere in Rethugliland they don't have an office pool going to bet on how many days tRump* serves and what day the first subpeona arrives.

Pence* was ALWAYS going to be the "presidential" one that stepped in to preside over cleaning up the tRump* mess... unfortunately Pence* and his handlers aren't the best and brightest.

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Response to Raster (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:59 PM

12. +1

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