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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid Bernie speak out against tRump speaking at the NRA?
Curious minds would like to know.
Me.
(35,454 posts)But then 45 is not a Dem
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,670 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)don't mimic them
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)I just think tRump being the first sitting president to speak to the NRA in 34 years deserves a response. Because to me the NRA is the most dangerous organization in the country.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)interest group.
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)NunnesBuznat
(47 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... actually made me literally laugh out loud! Thanks for the chuckle!
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)onecaliberal
(32,822 posts)Cattledog
(5,914 posts)onecaliberal
(32,822 posts)LexVegas
(6,059 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)onecaliberal
(32,822 posts)Marengo
(3,477 posts)The right of criminals to own guns?
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)NRA Expands the Program to Include Gun Criminals
For 20 years, however, felons convicted of crimes "involving the use of a firearm or other weapon" or of violations of federal firearm laws were ineligible to apply for "relief." This changed in 1986, when a law backed by the National Rifle Association took effect. The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (also known as FOPA or McClure/Volkmer for the bills' Senate and House sponsors) expanded the program to allow felons convicted of gun crimes to obtain "relief."3 And gun criminals certainly took advantage of the program. Of the 100 sample cases obtained by the Violence Policy Center, eight were for firearm violations, including two convictions for illegal sales of machine guns.
http://www.vpc.org/studies/felons.htm
Marengo
(3,477 posts)Punishment. I personally see absolutely nothing wrong with giving people the opportunity to petition for their rights to be restored and prove they are rehabilitated.
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)LexVegas
(6,059 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Or trying to, framing it with an "If." That way he's not "really" saying Dump is right on NK.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)"I'm sorry if I offended"
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)Cool.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)It doesn't need Dump, except, of course, for his Chinese business interests. To the Chinese government, Dump is a useful idiot. Why doesn't Sanders know that?
QC
(26,371 posts)with somebody else's, so when I got home I had some peas and tomato paste that I didn't want but my spinach was nowhere to be found.
Why hasn't Bernie said anything about this?
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Comparing your insignificant groceries (who cares?) with an NRA gun issue? Surely you can do better than that.
Or maybe not.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)That's a great idea, though. Might have to make some soup!
Nanjeanne
(4,950 posts)plan and the $15 min wage bill and Trump and Republicans and healthcare.
Maybe none of those issues matter to some I guess.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Has Bernie spoken out about this? Curious minds would like to know.
doc03
(35,325 posts)and commended Trump on his foreign policy.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)PatsFan87
(368 posts)Before seeing a doctor, I'd like to know what Bernie's opinion is of this. Also, I'd like to know if he's a supporter of wiping from front to back or back to front. And how does he put the toilet paper on? I simply can not rest until I know that he has spoken out about these things and at the exact moment that I want him to speak out about them.
QC
(26,371 posts)leading some to believe that he spent too much time in France and is worse off for it.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I can't believe it, but all anyone has to do is say 1 persons name and BAM!
It is ridiculous.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)just about everything he has done. Sanders has been a very vocal critic, and people who want to pretend that he has more bad things to say about democrats than Trump haven't actually been listening to him.
Trump is shitty. We kind of expect him to do shitty things. That doesn't mean we let off of him and let those things start to seem normal in the public domain, but by and large people in the public domain also know he's shitty, and nobody is letting up.
When it comes to trying to provide a different guideline or rule-book for politicians who we do like and do want to vote for, it matters to have a discussion about what that should look like. It matters that the public sees that we care about these things and we care about the appearance of propriety, AND that the voices of liberal ideals aren't just party hacks. If nobody has criticism for one's own side, especially when there are things worth criticizing that people know about, that just undercuts all credibility. People won't hear us if we do that. It can't be that not speaking ill of other democrats decisions is part of the bargain with a big tent, because that means that at some point, there is nothing we can speak ill of. That stops sounding like honesty...
and yes I know, the republicans have no problem doing this, but they have the advantage of corporate media, and they have the advantage of an entirely "differently" informed base weaned on the worst of that corporate media, and they have the advantage of us not offering a clear enough contrast -in the context of that corporate media of false equivalences----to make ourselves a clear beacon in that darkness. Because the playing field isn't even, we have to be far better, unimpeachably better, always.
David__77
(23,369 posts)...
PaintedSkies
(99 posts)As NRA head moron Wayne LaPiPip said yesterday ...
Obviously Bernie must be doing something right! GO BERNIE!
mcar
(42,301 posts)theaocp
(4,236 posts)you'd like to list the long list of other people who have not called this out, too? What is your true motivation here? If you're having trouble understanding my point, try translating this post into Russian.