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Did Bernie speak out against tRump speaking at the NRA? (Original Post) Cattledog Apr 2017 OP
Not That I Heard Me. Apr 2017 #1
Was he supposed to? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #2
Divisive politics is what the repubs are doing.... angstlessk Apr 2017 #3
Not being divisive... Cattledog Apr 2017 #5
The Republican Party is the most dangerous organization. The NRA is just a dangerous special rzemanfl Apr 2017 #30
Agreed! Cattledog Apr 2017 #32
What about Chechnya? Has he made a statement on the persecution of gays there? grossproffit Apr 2017 #4
Burnie is like tinkerbell: if we stop believing in him, he'll go away NunnesBuznat Apr 2017 #6
Now THAT... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #17
I thought hand clapping was involved too. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2017 #26
Did any dem? onecaliberal Apr 2017 #7
Sen. Chris Murphy did. Cattledog Apr 2017 #9
Okay so 1 did and Bernie didn't, so let's fry him? It just gets more ridiculous by the day. onecaliberal Apr 2017 #10
... LexVegas Apr 2017 #13
They will never let 2016 go.......... Chasstev365 Apr 2017 #40
Yeah, pathetic onecaliberal Apr 2017 #41
What is he referring to in regard to the NRA celebrating... Marengo Apr 2017 #16
I think he is referring to the Firearms "Relief" act Cattledog Apr 2017 #35
In that sense, he rather sounds like a hard right winger giddy with the thought of perpetual... Marengo May 2017 #49
Trash thread. n/t demmiblue Apr 2017 #8
Bernie leans more pro-gun. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #11
That's a shame. No, seriously... I mean it. It's a shame. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #14
He's too busy supporting Dump on North Korea NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #12
That word (if) is also prominent in non-apology apologies. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #15
Exactly NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #19
So you don't think we should push China to moderate NK? killbotfactory Apr 2017 #23
China is handling that on its own NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #27
Today I went to the grocery store and they mixed up my stuff QC Apr 2017 #18
Oh for chrissake NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #22
Clearly he doesn't care about you. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #24
He's a big ole meanie weenie bo beenie!!! QC Apr 2017 #25
You just made me crave tomato basil soup. nt fun n serious Apr 2017 #28
I have fresh basil but I already took the tomato paste back. QC Apr 2017 #29
I know he's been tweeting up a storm about Trump and Climate Denial - oh and Trump and obscene tax Nanjeanne Apr 2017 #20
of course not... the ususal suspects are only looking for shit they can complain about. Raster Apr 2017 #31
I spent at least an hour today trying to find Converse sneakers in the right size. Kentonio Apr 2017 #21
No but he had to make a comment about a speech a private citizen named Obama made doc03 Apr 2017 #33
I know. Weird, huh? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #39
how's that agenda working out for ya? Raster Apr 2017 #34
Today I wiped my ass and it was an odd color. PatsFan87 Apr 2017 #36
I've heard Bernie opposes all forms of wiping, Strictly a bidet man, QC Apr 2017 #37
Someone alerted on this sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #38
The NRA PAID Trump to speak? DAAAAAMN!! nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #42
not sure why it matters. Democrats and liberals, all of them have criticized trump consistently for JCanete Apr 2017 #43
This strikes me as nonsensical billshit. David__77 Apr 2017 #44
I think Bernie has already gotten their attention PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #45
Good question mcar Apr 2017 #46
As long as you're calling out Senator Sanders, perhaps theaocp Apr 2017 #47
You owe me a Coke sarisataka Apr 2017 #48

Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
5. Not being divisive...
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:11 PM
Apr 2017

I just think tRump being the first sitting president to speak to the NRA in 34 years deserves a response. Because to me the NRA is the most dangerous organization in the country.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
30. The Republican Party is the most dangerous organization. The NRA is just a dangerous special
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:39 PM
Apr 2017

interest group.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
16. What is he referring to in regard to the NRA celebrating...
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:27 PM
Apr 2017

The right of criminals to own guns?

Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
35. I think he is referring to the Firearms "Relief" act
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:48 PM
Apr 2017

NRA Expands the Program to Include Gun Criminals

For 20 years, however, felons convicted of crimes "involving the use of a firearm or other weapon" or of violations of federal firearm laws were ineligible to apply for "relief." This changed in 1986, when a law backed by the National Rifle Association took effect. The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (also known as FOPA or McClure/Volkmer for the bills' Senate and House sponsors) expanded the program to allow felons convicted of gun crimes to obtain "relief."3 And gun criminals certainly took advantage of the program. Of the 100 sample cases obtained by the Violence Policy Center, eight were for firearm violations, including two convictions for illegal sales of machine guns.

http://www.vpc.org/studies/felons.htm

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
49. In that sense, he rather sounds like a hard right winger giddy with the thought of perpetual...
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:57 PM
May 2017

Punishment. I personally see absolutely nothing wrong with giving people the opportunity to petition for their rights to be restored and prove they are rehabilitated.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
12. He's too busy supporting Dump on North Korea
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:22 PM
Apr 2017

Or trying to, framing it with an "If." That way he's not "really" saying Dump is right on NK.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
27. China is handling that on its own
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:37 PM
Apr 2017

It doesn't need Dump, except, of course, for his Chinese business interests. To the Chinese government, Dump is a useful idiot. Why doesn't Sanders know that?

QC

(26,371 posts)
18. Today I went to the grocery store and they mixed up my stuff
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:29 PM
Apr 2017

with somebody else's, so when I got home I had some peas and tomato paste that I didn't want but my spinach was nowhere to be found.

Why hasn't Bernie said anything about this?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
22. Oh for chrissake
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:34 PM
Apr 2017

Comparing your insignificant groceries (who cares?) with an NRA gun issue? Surely you can do better than that.

Or maybe not.

QC

(26,371 posts)
29. I have fresh basil but I already took the tomato paste back.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:38 PM
Apr 2017

That's a great idea, though. Might have to make some soup!

Nanjeanne

(4,950 posts)
20. I know he's been tweeting up a storm about Trump and Climate Denial - oh and Trump and obscene tax
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:34 PM
Apr 2017

plan and the $15 min wage bill and Trump and Republicans and healthcare.

Maybe none of those issues matter to some I guess.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
21. I spent at least an hour today trying to find Converse sneakers in the right size.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:34 PM
Apr 2017

Has Bernie spoken out about this? Curious minds would like to know.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
33. No but he had to make a comment about a speech a private citizen named Obama made
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:43 PM
Apr 2017

and commended Trump on his foreign policy.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
36. Today I wiped my ass and it was an odd color.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 01:52 PM
Apr 2017

Before seeing a doctor, I'd like to know what Bernie's opinion is of this. Also, I'd like to know if he's a supporter of wiping from front to back or back to front. And how does he put the toilet paper on? I simply can not rest until I know that he has spoken out about these things and at the exact moment that I want him to speak out about them.

QC

(26,371 posts)
37. I've heard Bernie opposes all forms of wiping, Strictly a bidet man,
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 02:00 PM
Apr 2017

leading some to believe that he spent too much time in France and is worse off for it.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
38. Someone alerted on this
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 02:12 PM
Apr 2017

I can't believe it, but all anyone has to do is say 1 persons name and BAM!

It is ridiculous.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
43. not sure why it matters. Democrats and liberals, all of them have criticized trump consistently for
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 03:36 PM
Apr 2017

just about everything he has done. Sanders has been a very vocal critic, and people who want to pretend that he has more bad things to say about democrats than Trump haven't actually been listening to him.

Trump is shitty. We kind of expect him to do shitty things. That doesn't mean we let off of him and let those things start to seem normal in the public domain, but by and large people in the public domain also know he's shitty, and nobody is letting up.

When it comes to trying to provide a different guideline or rule-book for politicians who we do like and do want to vote for, it matters to have a discussion about what that should look like. It matters that the public sees that we care about these things and we care about the appearance of propriety, AND that the voices of liberal ideals aren't just party hacks. If nobody has criticism for one's own side, especially when there are things worth criticizing that people know about, that just undercuts all credibility. People won't hear us if we do that. It can't be that not speaking ill of other democrats decisions is part of the bargain with a big tent, because that means that at some point, there is nothing we can speak ill of. That stops sounding like honesty...

and yes I know, the republicans have no problem doing this, but they have the advantage of corporate media, and they have the advantage of an entirely "differently" informed base weaned on the worst of that corporate media, and they have the advantage of us not offering a clear enough contrast -in the context of that corporate media of false equivalences----to make ourselves a clear beacon in that darkness. Because the playing field isn't even, we have to be far better, unimpeachably better, always.

 

PaintedSkies

(99 posts)
45. I think Bernie has already gotten their attention
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:16 PM
Apr 2017

As NRA head moron Wayne LaPiPip said yesterday ...
Obviously Bernie must be doing something right! GO BERNIE!

theaocp

(4,236 posts)
47. As long as you're calling out Senator Sanders, perhaps
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 04:35 PM
Apr 2017

you'd like to list the long list of other people who have not called this out, too? What is your true motivation here? If you're having trouble understanding my point, try translating this post into Russian.

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