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phylny

(8,378 posts)
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 04:15 PM Apr 2017

Just goes to show you - to know him is to hate him.

I had a conversation with a friend today. A mutual acquaintance of ours, the ex-husband of another friend, is extremely wealthy and holds a powerful corporate position in the New York area. My friend and our acquaintance were at a function when Donald came up. Now, I would have lost money on who this acquaintance - rich, powerful, white man - voted for. It was not Donald.

He said (face turning hard and angry, according to friend), "I did not vote for him. I can't stand him. I've had dealings with him and have met him a few times. He is a cheat and a charlatan."

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Just goes to show you - to know him is to hate him. (Original Post) phylny Apr 2017 OP
I have heard that among the elites of New York City The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #1
They sell hemorrhoids by the case? Are they cheaper that way? tblue37 Apr 2017 #8
I don't want to Pile on but that post burns. progressoid May 2017 #18
Way to go: tblue37 May 2017 #22
tRump is Nouveau Riche jacked up to 11. Tasteless, uneducated, unimaginative, crude. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #9
Crude Rude and Vulgar. classykaren Apr 2017 #15
That seems be a common Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #2
I can vouch for this opinion among my handful of acquaintances in the NY "elite." MANative Apr 2017 #3
"Hillary's biggest supporters are those who've done business with him or worked with her" SharonAnn Apr 2017 #14
This is common among NYC business people. Everyone knows he is a charlatan. DanTex Apr 2017 #4
I worked in Manhattan for about 6 or 7 years in various places during the late 70s/early 80s. phylny Apr 2017 #5
Reporters and other journalists over the years who have looked carefully at LuckyLib Apr 2017 #6
Yep and some of them are still at it. mountain grammy Apr 2017 #7
Doesn't tip The Wizard Apr 2017 #10
Though one his former caddies is one of his closest aides now. Lucky Luciano Apr 2017 #11
Let's see here... So far we have Buns_of_Fire Apr 2017 #12
I had posted during the primaries PCIntern Apr 2017 #13
To know, know, know him, is to hate, hate, hate him. Wow. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #16
I have a friend who in the 80's worked in a law firm and he was one of the clients kimbutgar Apr 2017 #17
The weird thing is that if a lot of his voters spent any time with him, they'd hate him too. progressoid May 2017 #19
If they just listened to others who have known him and worked Grammy23 May 2017 #20
It's pretty frightening how far they'll go to rationalize their support. progressoid May 2017 #21

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
1. I have heard that among the elites of New York City
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 04:27 PM
Apr 2017

Dolt 45 is about as popular as a case of hemorrhoids. He always has wanted to be accepted by NY's "old money," but they think he's a crude, boorish arriviste and they have never wanted anything to do with him. He tries to impress them with his wealth by covering everything in gold, not understanding that flamboyant displays of wealth are considered tacky and low-class. He'll never get it.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
2. That seems be a common
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 04:30 PM
Apr 2017

feeling. I would really be interested in hearing what more New Yorkers say about Trump. Those of us who don't live in New York need some help on how to deal with some of this craziness.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
3. I can vouch for this opinion among my handful of acquaintances in the NY "elite."
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 04:38 PM
Apr 2017

My business partner's ex-husband is a multi-millionaire Venture Capital guy - offices in Greenwich and Manhattan. Says the same thing about tRump - a fraud, and a cheat. Did business with him a couple of times and got burned both. Never again, he says, and he's been vocal for years about warning people away from him.

I also have a number of contacts at very senior levels at Macy's, where I worked for seven years. Nobody there has a very high opinion of him either, but they did business because, for a while at least, it made them a few bucks.

I haven't yet met someone who's worked with him and actually liked him, and I've personally met better than a dozen. Tolerance at best, which typically turns to loathing at some point.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
14. "Hillary's biggest supporters are those who've done business with him or worked with her"
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 06:14 PM
Apr 2017

Quote from Bill Clinton during the campaign.

phylny

(8,378 posts)
5. I worked in Manhattan for about 6 or 7 years in various places during the late 70s/early 80s.
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 04:44 PM
Apr 2017

I recall "The Donald" was known to be boorish and ostentatious.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
6. Reporters and other journalists over the years who have looked carefully at
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 05:29 PM
Apr 2017

tRump have portrayed him as the worst of the "wheeler-dealer". A conniving, pompous, faux businessman who played every deal he was a part of. As Bloomberg said, "New Yorkers know a con man when they see one." It's been common knowledge for decades. All folks had to do was study him and expose his history. But for the M$M, the $$$ just kept rolling in when they put the Con front and center. Our loss.

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
11. Though one his former caddies is one of his closest aides now.
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 06:05 PM
Apr 2017

Dan Scavino. Went to high school with him, though he is a couple years younger. Not the brightest tool in the shed - would probably be working in a Home Depot or something had he not accidentally become the conman's caddy.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
12. Let's see here... So far we have
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 06:08 PM
Apr 2017

cheat,
charlatan,
crude,
boorish,
tacky,
low-class,
tasteless,
uneducated,
unimaginative,
fraud,
ostentatious,
conniving, and
pompous.

And those are his good points.

PCIntern

(25,518 posts)
13. I had posted during the primaries
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 06:14 PM
Apr 2017

That one of my long term patients is a Republican banker-big shot member of the Union League here in Philly. Did business with Trump to try to extricate him from one of his bankruptcies. He said he was illiterate, a bad businessman, personally offensive, and all-around stupid. This patient of mine said that he was voting Dem for the first time in his life. All I can say is: Fuck.

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
17. I have a friend who in the 80's worked in a law firm and he was one of the clients
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 06:44 PM
Apr 2017

He stiffed them on paying legal fees on a case that he lost but was guilty of and he was rude to her and the other staff that had to deal with him. She liked ivana though who was personable.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
20. If they just listened to others who have known him and worked
Mon May 1, 2017, 12:19 PM
May 2017

for or with him, they would get it. He just is NOT a nice person. He is all about the glitz and glamor that he believes proves your wealth. He has no self awareness and no clue how he is perceived because if there is a hint of criticism, he rejects it as fake or just plain wrong. His Narcissism guides his every waking moment and decision. So underneath it all....everything is about him.....The great and powerful Oz.

Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that nothing we say or show to his followers that demonstrates what we've all come to know and understand about tRump will dissuade them of their delusions they believe about him. I do think in time....maybe a very long time...some of them will come to understand how they were duped, but I have serious doubts we'll ever hear it from their lips.

progressoid

(49,969 posts)
21. It's pretty frightening how far they'll go to rationalize their support.
Mon May 1, 2017, 01:53 PM
May 2017

Before the election, I politely asked a relative (who is very religious and a Trump supporter) what qualities or policies of Trump's she felt best supported her Christian beliefs.

She didn't answer but did unfriend me from Facebook.

We haven't spoken since then.

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