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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 07:33 PM Apr 2017

So, House GOP about to lock down the votes for Obamacare repeal. Here's what Dems do in response.

Here's the politico piece just sent to my E-mail:

GOP faces make-or-break moment on Obamacare repeal

By Rachael Bade, John Bresnahan and Kyle Cheney
04/30/2017 06:01 PM EDT

House Republican leaders and White House officials are increasingly confident about passing their long-stalled Obamacare replacement bill: More lawmakers than ever are committed to voting "yes," they say, and GOP insiders insist they're within striking distance of a majority.

End of quote and now turning to only my thoughts below:

So, imo, what the dems need to do is play hardball. Fillibuster the CR in the senate and shut the government down over this monstrosity passing the house.

The ACA must be saved and a government shutdown is the path now. It's the only hope of many of our brethren to literally not die!

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So, House GOP about to lock down the votes for Obamacare repeal. Here's what Dems do in response. (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Apr 2017 OP
Link? Me. Apr 2017 #1
Let them pass it.......let them own it.......the dems will get AJT Apr 2017 #2
and people loose their healthcare in the meantime? Merlot Apr 2017 #7
I think that the repubs will ultimately destroy it with AJT Apr 2017 #8
It won't make it through the Senate. The House Republicans are counting on the tblue37 May 2017 #10
Yes, +++++ pbmus May 2017 #26
I think you are right workinclasszero May 2017 #29
It's "LOSE"! It's not that HARD! (Goose, moose, caboose, loose---say them aloud!) WinkyDink May 2017 #15
Close, pose, nose--say them aloud! earthshine May 2017 #16
You'll notice I used only ONE example. Can we say "Then you'll know the OTHER spelling?" I thought WinkyDink May 2017 #22
BTW: Did you forget YOUR OWN POST ON THIS TOPIC IN ANOTHER THREAD? WinkyDink May 2017 #24
That post was in an actual discussion of the English language. earthshine May 2017 #31
Gee, thanks for pointing that out... Merlot May 2017 #18
Grade-school spelling ain't that abstruse. WinkyDink May 2017 #23
Need another example? Choose roose. n/t sl8 May 2017 #20
Do you think it's a clever argument to ADD something I did not use? I was, you'll note, specific. WinkyDink May 2017 #25
Honestly, I thought you were a bit too specific, in that you berated a specific poster. sl8 May 2017 #33
I would like to be a grammar and spelling Nazi if I don't have to shave my head. rzemanfl May 2017 #27
I believe the Russian hackers have been fiddling TheDebbieDee May 2017 #32
Loose? please... trof May 2017 #34
Thank you for being willing to kill off my daughter for political gain. Ms. Toad May 2017 #11
They will end up forcing people off by getting rid of AJT May 2017 #12
Hoping it will pass so we can hang it on their necks and win in 2018 Ms. Toad May 2017 #13
Might be easy for you to say. My hubby has cancer. appleannie1943 May 2017 #30
no need to shutdown the government. drray23 Apr 2017 #3
Dumb idea imo onenote Apr 2017 #4
Mitch McConnell will change it alwaysinflux Apr 2017 #5
Stop It Now Horizens Apr 2017 #6
a few weeks back sweetapogee Apr 2017 #9
Who wrote this claim, and did anyone tell Paul Ryan, who knows he does NOT have the votes?! WinkyDink May 2017 #14
Nobody believes the Senate will go along... brooklynite May 2017 #17
My republican brother-in-law is dead then. Demtexan May 2017 #19
Always remember: REPUBLICANS LIE librechik May 2017 #21
Assume always lying. They gaslight themselves too. rzemanfl May 2017 #28

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
7. and people loose their healthcare in the meantime?
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 09:14 PM
Apr 2017

And what if the dems don't get the house and senate back?

AJT

(5,240 posts)
8. I think that the repubs will ultimately destroy it with
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 09:41 PM
Apr 2017

work arounds, at least if they repeal and replace it outright it will be their failure, Trumpcare and not Obamacare.

tblue37

(65,206 posts)
10. It won't make it through the Senate. The House Republicans are counting on the
Mon May 1, 2017, 12:26 AM
May 2017

Senate to save them from their own self-inflicted damage. They want to pass some legislation--ANY legislation--so they can claim to have kept their promise on Obamacare. And Cheato is seriously badgering them to get something passed so he can add it to his list of "accomplishments."

But most House members absolutely do NOT want that bill to land on Cheato's desk to be signed, so they are counting on its being killed in the Senate.

If it does end up getting to Trump to be signed, they will be as freaked out as Trump was when he actually got stuck with being president.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
29. I think you are right
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:59 PM
May 2017

They can play this game for the benefit of their american hating nutcase base and pray that it dies in the Senate.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
16. Close, pose, nose--say them aloud!
Mon May 1, 2017, 05:56 AM
May 2017

Maybe, it's not so easy.

Don't be condescending if you are going to correct someone.

For your information, the emdash is properly written as two hypens--not three--to indicate a sharp break in thought.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
22. You'll notice I used only ONE example. Can we say "Then you'll know the OTHER spelling?" I thought
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:33 PM
May 2017

you could.

Oh, and FYI: The definition of "best limited to" is NOT "must be limited to."

http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/em-dash.html

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
24. BTW: Did you forget YOUR OWN POST ON THIS TOPIC IN ANOTHER THREAD?
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:42 PM
May 2017

"The bastardization of the English language on DU and other forums is perpetually disturbing to me.

Some intelligent people look like idiots when seen through the writing style of their posts."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1018945965#post28

WHY DIDN'T YOU ACCUSE THAT OP OF "CONDESCENDING" (or see it in yourself)?

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
31. That post was in an actual discussion of the English language.
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:11 PM
May 2017

Last edited Tue May 2, 2017, 03:05 PM - Edit history (1)

What you chose is to denigrate someone.

See it myself? Okay, I am condescending of you, and quite intentionally.



 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
25. Do you think it's a clever argument to ADD something I did not use? I was, you'll note, specific.
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:45 PM
May 2017

sl8

(13,643 posts)
33. Honestly, I thought you were a bit too specific, in that you berated a specific poster.
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:42 PM
May 2017

If you had a general rant about bad grammar or misspellings, I'd either agree with you or not respond at all.

When you chose to belittle a specific individual over a misspelling, it rubbed me the wrong way.



rzemanfl

(29,553 posts)
27. I would like to be a grammar and spelling Nazi if I don't have to shave my head.
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:51 PM
May 2017

I like my hair. Please let me know. Okay?

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
32. I believe the Russian hackers have been fiddling
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:13 PM
May 2017

With our election vote totals for much longer than we know... We can't be sure we'll win back the House and Senate as long as these hackers can electronically meddle with vote tabulation...

Also, I think history will show that the hackers meddled with the Brexit vote totals, too.

Ms. Toad

(33,975 posts)
11. Thank you for being willing to kill off my daughter for political gain.
Mon May 1, 2017, 01:05 AM
May 2017

You're playing political games with people's lives.

If we do everything we can, and still don't succeed in maintaining the ACA there will be blood on their hands, not ours.

But it is NOT EVER acceptable to hope they fail and the ACA repealed so that we can win an election.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
12. They will end up forcing people off by getting rid of
Mon May 1, 2017, 01:28 AM
May 2017

subsidies and getting rid of the price cap for pre-existing conditions, they will kill it by a thousand cuts. They have already started. They can do so much without repealing it.

This is not for political gain, this is to finally get medical care that will work for everyone. The changes needed won't happen under GOP rule. We need the house and senate, then the presidency.

Things have gotten too nasty here. As if anyone here would want someone to die.

Ms. Toad

(33,975 posts)
13. Hoping it will pass so we can hang it on their necks and win in 2018
Mon May 1, 2017, 01:32 AM
May 2017

is political gain, pure and simple.

It took multiple decades to get the ACA. If it is successfully repealed, it will be decades before anything equivalent is passed again. My daughter will not live decades without access to health care.

It isn't that you wnat her to die - but you ARE willing to sacrifice her for politics when you hope they repeal the ACA - and urge doig nothing - so we can win in 2018.

drray23

(7,615 posts)
3. no need to shutdown the government.
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 07:43 PM
Apr 2017

that bill can simply be defeated in the senate if it passes the house. There are enough gop senators opposing it. Dems can also fillibuster it if needed. The nuclear option only removed fillibuster for nominations, not the regular senate voting on bills.

onenote

(42,500 posts)
4. Dumb idea imo
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 07:47 PM
Apr 2017

We don't need to shut down the government (assuming we could) over a vote in the House when we can block the Obamacare bill in the Senate.



 

Horizens

(637 posts)
6. Stop It Now
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:26 PM
Apr 2017

It's far better that the bill not pass in the house. Does anyone have a list of the moderate R's we can call and voice our opinion?

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
9. a few weeks back
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 11:55 PM
Apr 2017

the pukes tried to repeal the ACA and instead gave the Trumpster a huge political defeat. Many threads here on DU confirmed the obvious, that the puke party is in total disarray.

Now all of a sudden they have got it together?

How?

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
19. My republican brother-in-law is dead then.
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:41 AM
May 2017

He has many health problems.
He really needs a nursing home.
He can barely walk.
My sister was thrashing President Obama.

librechik

(30,673 posts)
21. Always remember: REPUBLICANS LIE
Tue May 2, 2017, 11:02 AM
May 2017

I've seen them do this before. Lie real big abut how they have the votes, in order to get the holdouts to join the parade. Only to later pretend that never happened and they are still short.

Probably lying.

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