98% of Trump supporters would vote for him again *

[DemocratSinceBirth]

98% of Trump supporters would vote for him again. Let's wrap our melons around that. They like Trump because he hates the people they hate and that includes us.

President Donald Trump remains an angry, irrational figure, someone who still must stir up hatred — against the press, against immigrants, against Democrats — to enliven his base. Rhetorically, he is still the candidate of the resentful America First crowd, not the president of the entire country. His rambling, incoherent and factually deficient remarks in Harrisburg, Pa., remind us of the pathetic emptiness of the message — I'm with you because I hate the same people you do.

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/5239266-155/jennifer-rubin-this-is-not-a

If I can use some good old American slang Deplorable ain't changin. No sirre, Bob. Deplorabilism is a religion and its adherents are as faithful to its leader, Donald Trump, as any religion. If not outright contempt the best way to deal with them is benign neglect. We will try to help them because by helping them we help non-Deplorables as well, but it is the height of folly to believe we can reach them. They hate us !

The goal going forward is mobilization, not persuasion. Let the lost take care of the lost. There are more of us than there are of them. A lot more.


*http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/trump-voters-have-no-regrets-but-his-support-still-dropping.html

[beachbum bob]

1. who cares? Wasn't trump supporters that got him elected in the first place

but those who refused to vote or voted 3rd party as they couldn;t support "lesser of 2 evils"

[Bengus81]

10. And let them be the first to lose their ACA insurance..............

especially their rock solid pre-existing condition clause in the ACA. Trump is LYING over and over trying to convince lemmings that nothing will change with PEC in his em...."plan".

[Neema]

24. And the Russians. Don't forget the Russians.

But yeah. The MAGA bigots who believe the guy who has all his branded products made in Asia is going to kick out all brown people and give them back their jobs as Pony Express riders and telegraph operators are just a lost fucking cause.

[workinclasszero]

2. And yet many voices on the left keep saying we have to understand these deplorable assholes

I'm sick of the Trump enablers/voters. F them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. It's the craziest thing. They hate them and us.

If this was the thirties and forties they would tell us to reach out to the original American Firsters, the Lindbergh crowd. You know, workingclasszero, there were likely a lot more of them than we read about. They just kept their pieholes shut because being a traitor wasn't chic then.

[workinclasszero]

17. You got that right!

The deplorables are a lost cause. Democrats should not spend one second trying to understand and sympathize with these people.

They hate our guts and always will because that's what fox news, hate radio and their republican prosperity/dominunist preacher tells them to do 24/7/365!

They are brainwashed cretins that hate freedom, democracy, equality and decency, hence their vote for the pussy grabber-in-chief 45!

Reach out to the shell shocked people that didn't vote in the last election thinking it wouldn't make any difference who won. Now they know that was terribly wrong.

Get them to the polls in 18 and we can stop this insane scumbag in the WH and his damned anti-american party! F the deplorables! Stop wasting precious time on them democrats!

[dalton99a]

11. It's like homeowners being asked to make peace with arsonists who torched their houses

and shot their dogs

[workinclasszero]

19. Bingo!!!!

[mcar]

3. Makes the whole "we need to reach out to them" idea

pretty ludicrous.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. 98% of Trump supporters would vote for him again

That's all you need to know.

[bdamomma]

6. I like your last comment

There ARE more of us than them. All that hate that they project will eat them alive.

[lambchopp59]

7. GOTV efforts must evolve

Voter registration cell phone apps, complete with prizes, coupled with some vote-by-phone apps = problem solved. If millennials, now convinced of the "your vote doesn't make a difference" meme, just got hooked on this as the newest, coolest thing to do, we'd have no more republicans. Done. cooked. History.

[nikibatts]

8. Not true. 98% of the Trump voters INTERVIEWED say they would vote for him again.

It makes a big difference in the response to this question depending on which Trump voters are being asked. There are many out there who voted for Trump but will never admit that they voted for him AND and others hide from the question. If you interview people at one of his many rallies, of course, they will vote for him again. After all, they are at one of his rallies. But other voters who voted for him either in protest or for the promise of change have a different response to this question. AND people do not like to admit to themselves or anyone else that they made a mistake with their vote so they will stick to it as a response but not in behavior.

The media is playing us again to believe that Trump is all that popular. He is not.

[gratuitous]

13. This is the crux of it

Self-identified Trump voters say they'd vote for him again. How many people who voted for Trump in November now have such a case of voters' remorse that they won't admit they voted for Trump? There is, after all, no way to confirm who voted for Trump and is now denying their messiah.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. He is as popular among Deplorables as any religious leader is popular among his or her flock.

He is popular among Deplorables. He is not popular among the public at large. There is no contradiction among those two observations. That is indisputable.

[Tom Rinaldo]

25. For some he is a sitting duck as a target for their rage once they believe he "betrayed him"

Many will get there by the Summer recess, when Congress adjoins and nothing has changed, and they start to (belatedly) figure out that his promises were all lies. The Nazi's and White Supremacists will still love Trump however because it is clearly obvious how hard he is fighting for them.

[Doodley]

9. But how many would vote AGAINST Trump? His support may be similar, but look at his opposition.

[vi5]

12. But no! We have to REACH OUT TO THEM!!!!!

We should definitely put all of our time, money, and energy into winning over irrational, willfully ignorant people whose primary motivation is hatred and spite!

[HughBeaumont]

15. They can reach out to DEEEZ . . .

I don't reason with people that think my child's health care should be politicized.

"Let's debate about that . . "

NO. LET'S NOT.

[Freethinker65]

16. Yes. Those that voted for Trump over Clinton would do so again.

Even though many know he is awful, they still feel Clinton would have been worse. They hate her and what they feel she represents with every fiber of their being. We can never make them like her. The GOP effectively demonized her...which they are now trying to do, with less success and available time, to Elizabeth Warren...and will do to any up and coming Democratic presidential possibility. The GOP has that down to a science, with or without Russia's help.

If there was a Trump/Clinton rematch today, and only the same people voted as in 2016, Trump would probably still win the electoral college (depends on if third party voters would switch their votes). But, there is not going to be a rematch and Trump's approval rating is horrible. Almost any alternative to him, aside from Clinton, has a good chance of winning. Trump, and his administration, will be the one voters (even many that voted for him in 2016) want a change from.

[mucifer]

18. I don't believe that number. or at least it's not that simple. Also from the article:

But again, when just looking at Trump voters, only 2 percent of respondents in the ABC/WaPo poll feel regret over their decision, so the president is clearly still getting their benefit of their doubt. Unsurprisingly, almost all opinions about Trump continue to be sharply divided along partisan lines, but disapproval of Trump among independent Americans continues to rise: The gap between the majority of independents who disapprove of Trump’s performance vs approve of it is now 24 points in the NBC/WSJ poll, vs 9 points in February.

Another interesting takeaway from the NBC/WSJ poll which doesn’t bode well for Trump or the Republican Party is that 57 percent of Americans now believe that “government should do more to solve problems and help meet people’s needs” — the highest number to say so since the poll first posed the question in 1995.

[CousinIT]

20. I think if Dems reconstitute GOTV + 50-state strategy, they'll win the EC + popular

Granted the goddamned EC needs to go the way of the dinosaur but until it does...remember Dems won the popular vote in 2016. It's the EC we must overcome.

I think getting back to GOTV, consolidation, mobilization in 50 states will get us there.

[vi5]

22. But we have to get out the right vote...

..the problem is that with our 50 state strategy too often that means running as conservatively as we can in purple or red states in the hopes that we win over some right leaning folks. And that rarely, if ever works. That 50 state strategy needs to revolve around motivating the right people to vote, meaning those who actually want to vote for our candidates and who are alligned with the causes and policies that we want to advance.

The problem is that many of the people who get paid good money to run our campaigns and the party as a whole want to look at things in stark terms and never go beyond "Run conservatively in red states and run progressively in blue states" and cross our fingers that we win over some Republicans.

How about appeal to progressives and progressive values around the country and give them a reason to come out to vote? That seemed to work in 2008 pretty well.

[Scoopster]

21. I've heard it's more like 80%

That would account for the swing in the KS-4 and GA-6 special elections. Plus there's this article from WBUR Boston a couple weeks back: http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/04/12/central-massachusetts-townsend-poll

[ChoppinBroccoli]

23. Politics Is Sports To Them; They've Picked Their "Team" And Will Root Them On No Matter What

Trump supporters who STILL support him after all he's done are like the group of Ravens fans I saw on SportsCenter a few years ago who were all out in front of the stadium wearing Ray Rice jerseys in support of HIM. My team, right or wrong.

[bluestarone]

26. well i say 100%

of the 98% are as dumb today as they were then

[TNLib]

27. If trump gets his way

These people will loose ACA, Medicaid expansion and taxes will go up for working and middle class. Not to mention prices will sky rocket if he gets rid of NAFTA.

Right now the economy is good and they are not feeling the Trump pain. But eventually something is going to give and these people will be screwed along with the rest of us.

[heaven05]

28. of course

they would also vote for real slavery of all not white, KKKristian and land owning male.

[herding cats]

29. Reaching out to these people will leave us drawing back a bloody stump.

It's as simple as that.

[onecaliberal]

30. I have zero fucks to give about these people. They're stupidity could kill millions

[no_hypocrisy]

31. Difference between Trump supporter

and Trump voter. Some of the latter were Obama voters and may return to voting democratic.

[Turbineguy]

32. They are deplorable

but they are also fleecible. Somebody could make a lot of money off these dolts.

[MrScorpio]

33. Fuck those morons.

FDT.