Something to think about: If the republicans end up ramming through their evil health care plan,

[smirkymonkey]

will it change the national debate about physician assisted suicide? How can they refuse treatment to the terminally ill and those in unbearable pain with no hope of relief without offering a humane way for those people to escape a hopeless, intolerable situation?

Discuss.

[2naSalit]

1. Soylent Green?

[tazkcmo]

2. Simple.

They are not humane.

[angstlessk]

3. I think you can even leave the 'e' off and define them just fine

[tazkcmo]

4. You are correct. n/t

[smirkymonkey]

18. I know that they aren't, but still they have to deal with millions of people who are dying without

healthcare. How do they propose to cope with that? Do they think all these people are just going to go crawl under a rock and die peacefully? It isn't going to happen.

I can tell you one thing. If I was in a position where I was terminal and refused healthcare, palliative care and pain medication, I would definitely take a few of these bastards out with me.

[Warpy]

5. First, they think sickness is a choice

If you lived right and ate all your vegetables and went to church every Sunday, you wouldn't get sick. When you ask them what sick children did wrong, their eyes glaze over and they change the subject.

Second, their god tells them that every drop of misery must be wrung from life and that anything to decrease misery or provide a more peaceful exit are sinful.

Third, they honestly believe that bad things happen only to people who deserve them.

And there is nothing we can do about this except get out there and work to defeat them.

[smirkymonkey]

14. Until it happens to them.

And I hope it does.

[roamer65]

6. It won't be physician-assisted.

People will just do it themselves.

[smirkymonkey]

9. But that's the horrible thing! Why can't people at least have the option to have a peaceful,

painless death if they have no option for care or treatment? Possibly not even access to expensive pain-killers. That is beyond cruel. There should be some way to opt out on your own terms when you are left with no other choice.

[bettyellen]

7. "How can they refuse treatment"? It's their thing.

[smirkymonkey]

11. I know they are cruel enough to refuse treatment, but to refuse treatment without another

humane option to end one's suffering? That is the ultimate in cruelty.

[safeinOhio]

8. Now waiting for them to push

a work requirement for Hospice.

[smirkymonkey]

12. Ugh! You know something, I wouldn't put it past them.

Rotten, miserable bastards!

[reflection]

10. Legitimate question,

And an interesting one. I would normally say that both parties would agree to let physician assisted suicide proceed, since Democrats respect ethics and free will, and Republicans seem to enjoy people not being inconvenient burdens, but the religious angle would inevitably surface. "You're subverting Gawd's will!"

[smirkymonkey]

13. I wonder if there would become a black market for drugs that terminal patients could take

that could help end it all peacefully.

[reflection]

17. I assume there is one already

But obviously just a hunch.

[4139]

15. If they ram it through... we'll take the House in 2018

[smirkymonkey]

16. Well, that's the upside, but unfortunately a lot of people will suffer and die in the meantime.

I really fucking hate these bastards.

[Generic Brad]

19. No we won't

You assume we will have free and fair elections. I assume the elections will be fixed from here on out.

[smirkymonkey]

20. And I think we will have a revolution.

What can we expect from a nation of desperate people, who are dying and in pain? They have nothing to lose.

[Generic Brad]

21. And they are too stupid to fear that

They are reveling in their nastiness and thirst for power. Like Trump, they will find out that ruling is hard and they will be shocked to find they are universally reviled.