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Thu May 4, 2017, 04:22 AM

What are the political consequences of a Yes vote on ACA Repeal today ?

1. We know Trump is desperate to have a Win on ACA repeal, to have a chance to release that Tax money which he use for his Tax cuts for the Wealthy scheme.

2. We know Republicans have lied to their stupid voters about the consequences of ACA/Obamacare for the last 7 years, and have put all their money on "Repealing Obamacare".

3. We know this State Opt out, will predominantly hurt people in Republican controlled states, as they are the ones stupid enough to opt out.

4. We know Republicans have NOT sent this to the CBO in advance (knowing that it wouldn't be to their benefit).

Do the Republicans in the House only want to pass a Repeal in the House, knowing that it would be defeated in the Senate ? Thus they can go back to their voters saying, I vote Repeal but it was those dastardly Senators who killed it.

If it was to go to the Senate, can it do so without going through CBO, and if not, when it is shown to be also appalling, how is it going to look for moderate Republican congressmen to have voted for cutting people's healthcare when the Senate tossed it out ? Or will the Senate ram it through as well ? 50 + Pence will do.

On the other side, IF it were to get through the Senate and the ACA is killed, doesn't the shoe get on the other foot in that now Democrats would be under savage pressure to agree to Trumpcare 3.0 ? Suddenly, it can be spun that Democrats are letting people die for their own selfish reasons, IF they don't sign up to Trumpcare.

The ideal scenario would be that the House passes this today, but the Senate completely rejects it, thus potentially resulting in the Republicans getting wiped out in 2018. As stupid as they are, I don't think they are that stupid.

What are the other paths this could go ?

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Reply What are the political consequences of a Yes vote on ACA Repeal today ? (Original post)
OnDoutside May 2017 OP
beachbum bob May 2017 #1
MedusaX May 2017 #2
OnDoutside May 2017 #3
MoonRiver May 2017 #4
OnDoutside May 2017 #5

Response to OnDoutside (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 05:54 AM

1. conservatives are ideologues and that itself makes them stupid

 

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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 07:31 AM

2. Strategic play to put healthcare issue on ice until after 2018 elections

2018 House KGOP races are in need of positive talking points..

House passes the bill today...

Huge KGOP success reported by every media outlet in the galaxy...

Bill goes to Senate....
whose job it will be to appear as if engaging in serious review and revision...

They will keep it alive as long as it has value as a useful media distraction and can be helpful in 2018 races.....

They may be planning to have Senate send revised version back to House closer to height of campaign season...
House will then be the ones "diligently working for people" by pretending to review the revisions...
But wont actually pass it until (if ever) after election... so people won't have time to "experience" its effects before re-electing KGOP

Whole purpose is
so that they can have multiple "success" talking points at election time
But without actually accomplishing anything that may become detrimental to 2018 elections

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Response to MedusaX (Reply #2)

Thu May 4, 2017, 07:46 AM

3. That makes a lot of sense, evil, but a lot of sense, especially seeing as the Democrats don't have

a great track record of exploiting Rep weakness as they should.

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Response to OnDoutside (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 07:58 AM

4. They are that stupid.

Guess they believe in their gerrymandered districts, Repukes don't get sick.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #4)

Thu May 4, 2017, 08:12 AM

5. Part of it could be a gamble that the Democratic Party won't be able to exploit any

Rep weakness arising from this.

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