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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:55 PM May 2017

Buy or Sell - The worst Blue Dog is better than the best Deplorable

Today's vote makes me miss Heath Shuler. Although Shuler represents a very conservative area of North Carolina, he has a lifetime ACU rating of 28.5. That means he voted with us 71.5% of the time. He and others like him would have never voted for this piece of shit bill.


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Buy or Sell - The worst Blue Dog is better than the best Deplorable (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 OP
For now angstlessk May 2017 #1
I called Manchin a P O S Vichy Democrat and got a hide. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #2
Can also be a cruel master. angstlessk May 2017 #3
I begged Bobby Bright (D-AL) '08-'10 to throw us a bone - just one bone! yallerdawg May 2017 #10
Depends on the year, bill, vote, district. RedWedge May 2017 #4
Anyone who said that about Shuler never visited his district. wildeyed May 2017 #5
That's why I generally avoid all of the "purity" threads... Wounded Bear May 2017 #6
I get upset with apostates but I rather have the occasional apostate than a Deplorable. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #7
Shuler was the difference between holding the majority and being the minority in the House once, wildeyed May 2017 #11
I get frustrated with conservative Dems from blue states. wildeyed May 2017 #8
LIEbermann was always a bit of a stealth Dem anyway... Wounded Bear May 2017 #9
His constituents loved him. wildeyed May 2017 #12
Yeah, well... Wounded Bear May 2017 #13

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
2. I called Manchin a P O S Vichy Democrat and got a hide.
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:59 PM
May 2017

I now realize he is still better than any Deplorable who could replace him. Experience is a cruel mistress.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. I begged Bobby Bright (D-AL) '08-'10 to throw us a bone - just one bone!
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:42 PM
May 2017

The only Democratic Party vote he ever made was for Nancy Pelosi to be Speaker of the House.

He was the worst damn Democrat ever! Stone cold social and fiscal conservative DINO!

"Hit the road, Jack!" No Democrat could conscientiously support this 'wolf in sheep's clothing.'

Now? Replaced by Martha Roby (R-AL) '10-'18.

She told Hillary "It isn't funny" 9 hours into Benghazi hearing.



And this: House Republicans pass bill that would let employers swap out overtime pay for paid time off. "The legislation is sponsored in the House by U.S. Rep. Martha Roby (R- Ala.)."

So...

I miss the shit out of Bobby Bright! Gimme just that one fucking vote - I didn't understand you, and others like you, made that Pelosi vote possible.

Come back, Bobby. We miss you!

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
5. Anyone who said that about Shuler never visited his district.
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:04 PM
May 2017

Asheville is liberal, but the rest is crazy rightwing all back in those hills and hollers. Shuler was like finding a $20 bill on the sidewalk. You pick it up, smile and don't worry too much where is came from. Same with Manchin. People who criticize him need to spend some time campaigning in WV for their progressive icon and get back to me.

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
6. That's why I generally avoid all of the "purity" threads...
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:10 PM
May 2017

I'm in a blue district in a blue state, so my opinion is pretty meaningless to both sides of those "discussions."

I don't need the stress.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
11. Shuler was the difference between holding the majority and being the minority in the House once,
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:43 PM
May 2017

if I recall. People who would rather be pure than hold the majority don't really understand how our system of government works, IMO. You control so much as the majority party. The 70% voting record does not do justice to what Shuler ACTUALLY contributed to the party. That was just icing.

Same with Sanders when his seat was the razor-thin difference between control of the Senate and not. I wasn't a big fan, even then, but I was glad that Indy guy from VT caucused with the Dems.

It's a coalition, not an actual political party. As such, there is no 'apostate' to me. Only those who caucus with the group and those who don't. And you are right, between facing the Deplorable Trump and controlling zero branches of government, I don't feel like we can be super-picky about our friends right now.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
8. I get frustrated with conservative Dems from blue states.
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:31 PM
May 2017

Lieberman But guys like Shuler and Manchin are the best you could get from the districts that sent them.

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
13. Yeah, well...
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:46 PM
May 2017

I think a lot of NY bankers and investors live in Connecticut. Plus, Hartford is a big insurance city.

He treated those folks just fine.

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