It's going down in history as "Obamacare"

[lunatica]

Take that you asshole Republicans who chose to call it that so it would stick to our President in a bad way! May you choke on your own terpitude!

http://www.barackobama.com/health-care?source=socnet_20120703_BO_FB_HEALTH_CARE_TOOL2_SIGNON&utm_medium=fb&utm_source=bo_fb&utm_campaign=socnet_20120703_BO_FB_HEALTH_CARE_TOOL2_SIGNON

[mucifer]

1. I hope you are right!

I worry about the billion dollar fear machine.

[craigmatic]

2. 20 years from now conservatives will be trying to say that they created the law when it's popular.

[vi5]

8. Someone's a lot more optimistic than I am......

I don't have any hopes that the ACA even exists 5-10 year from now.

Hell abortion rights are on their last legs and voting rights are headed down the drain thanks to the slow and steady persistence of the GOP, and those were set into law 40-50 years ago, and 10-15 years ago it would have been inconceivable that both would be whittled away by the GOP as much as they have been.

I have no hope for a law that was just passed recently, in this climate, and with the direction this country is going in.

May you be proven right, and I be proven so very, very wrong.

[lunatica]

10. The anti abortion laws are at the State level

I doubt that all the States will pass anti-abortion laws or even that too many more will. Obamacare is Federal.

States can choose to not honor the law of course, but when people realize the benefits, which they will, it'll be here to stay. Healthcare is fundamentally a human right.

[vi5]

14. Again...I hope I'm wrong....

But the fact is that wherever the laws are coming from, it is more difficult today for a woman to have access to a facility that provides abortions than it was 10-20 years ago. And if the states choose not to honor the law, and if the press and the right (with the help of enough cowardly dems) continues to muddy the waters as to what it does and what it's benefits are, it's going to be really hard to gain the full traction of support from people realizing the benefits of the law.

What's happened with abortion and voting rights has been the result of a combination of a blind press, evil and manipulative GOP politicians, and enough people thinking that it can't affect them and it's only for "other people". I just don't see any way through the same stuff happening with the ACA.

I very much want to be wrong and be optimistic but after the past couple of years I just don't have that kind of optimism in me any more.

[Politicalboi]

3. It won't be long before

They claim Obama coined that, and it's a political ploy. "Oh Obamacares" Taking all the credit again.

[lunatica]

4. It'll be known as the Obamacare Act

[lame54]

5. And they'll go down in history as TeaBaggers...

[lunatica]

6. You're right!

I still call them that because I'll never give them legitimacy!

[lame54]

21. I'll call them that as long as they...

keep denying that it was them that came up with name
that is what the vid is about

[BumRushDaShow]

7. Bingo!

They keep trying to erase their "origins" and how they were waving around teabags in pure ignorance of the history of the Boston Tea Party.

[HopeHoops]

9. Let's use it as a positive term now just to piss the fuckers off.

[lunatica]

11. Definitely

[sad sally]

12. While I'm happy the Affordable Care Act or as many like to call it Obamacare was upheld by the SC,

and is a step in the right direction, it's not a remedy to America's health care crisis.

It's not universal coverage; estimates are that at least 26 million people will still be uninsured. A single-payer, Medicare-for-all system would provide truly universal, comprehensive coverage. Research shows the savings in administrative costs alone under a single-payer plan would amount to $400 billion annually, enough to provide quality coverage to everyone with no overall increase in health spending.

It doesn't make health care more affordable to Americans who already have insurance because it does nothing to control the increases in premiums each year, and because of high co-pays and gaps in coverage, people with insurance can still be open to financial ruin in the event of serious illness.

It won't control costs. Why? Because ACA/Obamacare perpetuates the domination the private insurance industry has. An industry more interested in profit by siphoning off billions in overhead and demanding unending paperwork from doctors and hospitals in the fight to decrease health care payments and increase their bottom line (profits), than an industry interested in health care. Doctors and hospitals used to be in the health care business, now they work for an industry with profit as the main motive for being in business.

I know that any President other than President Obama would destroy the gains made with this act, and there will be other problems to tackle after his re-election, but I'm still disappointed that the insurance industry came out the biggest winner - not health care.

[lunatica]

13. I believe it will be improved in time

It's the first gigantic step in healthcare legislation in this country. The foot is in the door.

[Whisp]

16. I've been calling it Obamacare for a while now.

Has a nice ring to it - he does care about people more than those ratfucker repug bastards.

[Amonester]

22. The disappointment should be aimed at Congress, because...

Obamacare (or ACA) was the only passable bill at the time it passed.

Universal coverage would have never passed (at that time), no matter how better it would be overall (they don't care).

[rhett o rick]

15. I think we should all call it Obamacare. For one thing to mock the repukes and to remind them

who gets credit.

[Tx4obama]

17. Obama campaign now using the term ''Obamacare'' in campaign ads, see link below

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125151473

[Odin2005]

18. A lot of common labels started out as pejoratives.

"Big Bang" is a good example.

[JackRiddler]

19. We can hope it goes down in history as an intermediate stage...

on the way to a proper, functioning, public and universal health care system, like they have in Canada, Europe, Taiwan and every other halfway developed country.

[Iliyah]

20. Also realize that these so called

"Christian" conservatives were against SSI, Civil Right, Women's Rights, Unions, Public Schools, Medicare/Medicaid to name a few. I would say at least half of the GOP base has benefited from them, and it will be the same thing with ACA.

And of course, as years pass, the Conservatives will poke their chests out and claim it was their idea in the first place and that the Conservative Justice voted in favor of it which proves they were on the RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.

No joke - LOL

[malaise]

23. 100% correct

That's the truth