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There's a 4x match for donating to Ossoff now (Original Post) BainsBane May 2017 OP
Kick. dalton99a May 2017 #1
KnR! Cha May 2017 #2
Steve Marmel on the Jon Ossoff race in Georgia Cha May 2017 #3
I concur BainsBane May 2017 #4
Litmus tests? WellDarn May 2017 #8
I posted Steve Marmel's Tweet.. he's been a great Supporters Cha May 2017 #9
"He's not playing" WellDarn May 2017 #10
I don't care if you're concerned or not. Cha May 2017 #11
Of course you don't WellDarn May 2017 #12
Jon Ossoff! Cha May 2017 #13
There's something we agree on 100% WellDarn May 2017 #14
John Lewis endorsed Ossoff early BainsBane May 2017 #21
Please don't misunderstand WellDarn May 2017 #24
I don't understand how you got all that from that tweet BainsBane May 2017 #28
And again we agree WellDarn May 2017 #30
I think there is concern BainsBane May 2017 #32
There is only one word for this WellDarn May 2017 #33
I also think you're aware BainsBane May 2017 #29
Full-throated support for Mello BainsBane May 2017 #19
See post 14 WellDarn May 2017 #20
That isn't the point BainsBane May 2017 #23
No argument here WellDarn May 2017 #25
Glad we agree. BainsBane May 2017 #27
Absolutely WellDarn May 2017 #31
K & R & Donated! SunSeeker May 2017 #5
Excellent! BainsBane May 2017 #15
Gladly donated... SergeStorms May 2017 #6
Great! BainsBane May 2017 #18
Okay, I support Ossoff, and I've given him money. BUT..... brooklynite May 2017 #7
Considering I'll never approach the maximum BainsBane May 2017 #17
Donated. K&R brer cat May 2017 #16
K&R WellDarn May 2017 #22
Done. Hoyt May 2017 #26
 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
8. Litmus tests?
Fri May 5, 2017, 07:48 AM
May 2017

So is full throated support for Heath Mello a test?

Yea, I know that Ossoff is a great candidate and a good guy to boot. In fact "the left" will vote for him 100%. This B.S. tweet however sets up a test that (in the hate Bernie world of some), the "left" has already failed. It's just more flaming.

Keep your eye on the prize. Unite.

Cha

(297,074 posts)
9. I posted Steve Marmel's Tweet.. he's been a great Supporters
Fri May 5, 2017, 08:02 AM
May 2017

of Dems.. and he's not playing.

We will unite behind Jon Ossoff.

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
10. "He's not playing"
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:33 AM
May 2017

What is that supposed to mean?

Steve Marmel doesn't say a word to people who look like me. I'm not concerned whether he plays or not.

He's on the right side and I appreciate what he says to people living in places like GA-6 and other districts with similar demographics because, being a recovered right winger, he says tons to them.

But for those of us dying in the streets, ANYONE interested in splitting this party between middle and left is playing all right. They're playing with our lives.

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
12. Of course you don't
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:59 AM
May 2017

After all, we're only 12% of the population and after all, not even all of that 12% are lying in the street with a cop bullet in them (sarcasm).

What does it matter if we're not impressed by a WUMC comedian telling us what we have to do to "prove" we are Democrats?

When he applies the same test to suburban Dems ready elect a Republican mayor in Omaha who will most definitely be telling Omaha cops that it open season on people like me, he can start telling me who are the REAL Democrats.

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
21. John Lewis endorsed Ossoff early
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:21 PM
May 2017

and his support is what propelled Ossoff to national attention. I don't understand your objection to him, other than he isn't Mello--who has a record of opposing the equal rights of over half the population, including African American women.

Ossoff's election impacts the national party. A mayor's race in Omaha impacts residents of Omaha, and since you feel strongly that Mello is the best candidate, by all means, support him. But that doesn't begin to explain your anger at support for Ossoff. You haven't indicated a single issue disagreement.

Moreover, I think your anger at this tweeter failing to elevate a candidate who opposes reproductive rights--which are equal rights--above Ossoff is short-sighted. I myself am troubled by any efforts to undermine equal rights, whether for women, people of color, LGBT, or any other group. I see them all as connected and believe that if one is justified, soon the rest will follow.

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
24. Please don't misunderstand
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:33 PM
May 2017

Mello is obviously flawed. To be honest, I don't see any flaws with Ossoff. They are definitely not equal. My point is a simple one. When Republicans win, we die.

Also, until John Lewis comes out and says don't vote for Mello, WHICH HE WON'T, his support for a good candidate has nothing to do whether we should sacrifice black lives in Omaha. What it means, and what I urge everyone to hear, is that Ossoff needs us to get behind him and fight.

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
28. I don't understand how you got all that from that tweet
Fri May 5, 2017, 05:18 PM
May 2017

It didn't say don't vote for Mello. It said support for Ossoff was a litmus test. Perhaps it was a dig at the Bernie crowd. I don't know. I don't follow that tweeter. But I don't know why an Omaha mayoral candidate would be a litmus test anymore than my city of Minneapolis' mayoral candidates, whom I suspect few outside Minnesota have any awareness of. The only reason most people outside of Nebraska heard of Mello is because of the DNC/Bernie visit there and ensuing controversy. Mayoral races have little to no impact on national politics.

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
30. And again we agree
Fri May 5, 2017, 05:49 PM
May 2017

Although I have to admit that the thought that we have Democratic mayors in many of the same cities where young black males lie dead in the street makes me wonder about whether there truly is any concern for what is happening.

That notwithstanding, I vote Democrat, period.

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
32. I think there is concern
Fri May 5, 2017, 06:25 PM
May 2017

Last edited Fri May 5, 2017, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)

at least some. In Minneapolis, it is likely that Betsy Hodges will not be reelected as mayor in part because of her inability to address the problem. The challenges, however, are difficult because they are the result of ingrained racism among police, prosecutors, jurors, and citizens that too many are unwilling to grapple with. It's easier to say that politician or cop is racist than confront the kind of unconscious biases in most, if not all, white people that created systems that treat black lives as less.

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
29. I also think you're aware
Fri May 5, 2017, 05:24 PM
May 2017

that black men are regularly killed by police in cities with Democratic mayors, as Baltimore, Minneapolis, St., Paul, Chicago, and LA all demonstrate. Those problems are far deeper than party. We're about as likely to have a Republican mayor as a hurricane here in Mpls, but the police nonetheless continue to kill.

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
19. Full-throated support for Mello
Fri May 5, 2017, 03:51 PM
May 2017

is a litmus test for incurring the opposition of advocates of abortions rights and equality for women.

What is your objection to Ossoff?

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
20. See post 14
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:20 PM
May 2017

AND The people who would either not vote for, or vote against, DEMOCRAT Mello over his position on choice (a position he shares with other prominent Democrats), need to think about what a Republican mayor can do to the young black males of Omaha. If they aren't sure, ask Michael Brown.

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
23. That isn't the point
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:31 PM
May 2017

Obviously we all know that voters are faced with limited choices. While I'm fortunate to be represented by, largely, progressive Democrats, I know that isn't the case everywhere. If I lived in a red state, I would have to vote for some conservative Democrats for lack of other options.

The issue is elevating anti-choice, anti-equal rights candidates like Mello to the national stage, hailing them as "progressive" and the "future of the party," above Democrats who are liberal across the board. We are now witnessing something similar in VA, not in regard to a anti-choice Democrat vs. a Republican but an anti-choice Democrat vs. a Democrat endorsed by NARAL and PP. I have to ask who or what is being served by ongoing efforts to promote anti-equality positions within the party? And what makes you think it will stop with women?

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
25. No argument here
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:42 PM
May 2017

I have major issues with anyone who doesn't vote for Mello for being weak on choice because that litmus test kills people who look like me.

I have a thousand times more issues with the idea that Mello is a progressive standard bearer. You can be a Democrat and be weak on choice, but you aren't a standard bearer. Our standard has the word "choice" written on it in capital letters

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
6. Gladly donated...
Fri May 5, 2017, 06:14 AM
May 2017

a victory by Ossoff would be the harbinger of doom every vile, vicious Republican needs to feel leading up to the 2018 mid-terms. We ARE NOT fucking around, and this message needs to be sent to these heartless scumbags!

brooklynite

(94,485 posts)
7. Okay, I support Ossoff, and I've given him money. BUT.....
Fri May 5, 2017, 06:25 AM
May 2017

I would never respond to one of these double-triple-quadruple match emails.

First, consider that whatever the matching source is, it's limited tot the same maximum contribition you are.

Second, if the Ossoff race is important to the matching source, they'll be giving as much as they can, regardless of what you do.

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
22. K&R
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:24 PM
May 2017

We can take this seat. Turnout will be everything. Also, if you live in the area and can help with registration and GOTV, please do what you can.

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