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Al Giordano's Rules for 2020 Presidential Candidates ✔ @AlGiordano

Al's Rules for 2020 Presidential Candidates
Al Giordano ✔ @AlGiordano
1. Stories like this on potential 2020 presidential candidates have started, so here are MY ground rules:
2. Ronald Reagan used to cite his commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican." Democrats could learn from that...

3. My own policy is going to be an amended version: "I will only speak ill of 2020 Democrats who speak ill of Democratic values & leaders.


4. So if you're a candidate who is going to drag on President Obama instead of embracing his legacy, I'm going to hit your hard & often.
5. Likewise, if you're going to pander to the "Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate" ...., I hope you can take it as hard as you dish it

6. But if you're out there talking about issues & strategy & tactics & how to get change, I'm not going to speak ill of you. And I expect...
7. ...that my mentions on social media be free of such internecine food fights. I will block people for dragging on any potential nominee...
8. ...except to counter any candidate who himself is dragging on other potential nominees (I'm especially talking to you,...).

9. If you're going to seek the Democratic Party nomination, you have a *duty* to leave that nomination in better condition than you found it
10. If in your ambition & selfishness you weaken the value of that nomination (& eventual nominee), then fuck you, it's going to be war.

11. We're all paying the steep price of those kinds of antics today, and we'll be paying them at least through January 20, 2021.
12. The Democratic nomination comes through millions of people who are very diverse but embrace one label: Democrat. Grok that!
13. We will defend closed primaries in states that choose them & will not broke any asshole trying to drag the legitimacy of their results.

14. We will sabotage any aspiring nominee who panders to non-Democrats by running against the DNC & lowering its value. We will destroy you.

15. Yes, we all have things we want the Democratic Party to do better. And we fight for them the effective way, within the family, not media

16. We will neither tolerate attempts to abandon the pieces of our coalition in favor of a re-centering of white and/or male voters.
17. If you're one of those people using those bottom-feeding tactics, & you think we hit you hard in 2016, you ain't seen nothing yet.
18. This time we'll be more ready to isolate, contain & marginalize you for trying to weaken the value of our vehicle to win in November.
19. If you want the nomination, you had better be adding to its value - no matter who the eventual nominee - every day of your campaign.
20. If you try to win by parasite tactics that suck away its value, you forfeit any right to that nomination. And you will lose. Badly.

21. Those are my rules from here to 2020: Thou shalt not speak ill of any Democratic presidential candidate who does not speak ill of others
22. But that rule has a rider attached: If you speak ill of the party or any of its potential nominees, the gloves come off. End memo.


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Madam45for2923 May 2017 OP
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That Guy 888 May 2017 #2
Madam45for2923 May 2017 #4
Cha May 2017 #19
AlGiordano May 2017 #6
Ninsianna May 2017 #7
That Guy 888 May 2017 #8
BainsBane May 2017 #11
fleabiscuit May 2017 #14
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mcar May 2017 #12
sheshe2 May 2017 #13
brer cat May 2017 #16
Cha May 2017 #17
Madam45for2923 May 2017 #21
Cha May 2017 #22
NurseJackie May 2017 #20
Madam45for2923 May 2017 #23
oasis May 2017 #24
forjusticethunders May 2017 #27
Gothmog May 2017 #29
Cha May 2017 #15
brooklynite May 2017 #3
Madam45for2923 May 2017 #5
Ligyron May 2017 #25
BainsBane May 2017 #9
Cha May 2017 #18
NastyRiffraff May 2017 #26
Hortensis May 2017 #28


Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 04:51 PM

2. Who is Al Giordano

 

...On Monday, Giordano raised eyebrows—and concern—when he told the world he had the personal information of a number of journalists and personalities from Twitter’s left wing accounts.

It all began with a bracketed competition to determine the winner of Twitter’s Shit Account Tourney 2016. The competition is divided into brackets; Twitter users are asked to vote on each contest for which is the worse account. Giordano faced off against Center for American Progress President and CEO and welfare reform implementer Neera Tanden.

Tanden won by eight percentage points.

...After his loss, Giordano launched into a tweetstorm, saying, in part, “These 4,673 accounts [behind the voting] likely represent fewer than 2,000 actual persons. I hope [twitter support] will study their abuses & act on them. This is the core group of “Alt-left,” “Bernie Bro,” “dirtbag left,” Intercept, Jacobin, Bruenig boys, whatever name they go by… the dozen or so ringleaders have first names, last names, addresses, jobs. I have a lot of that info (and feel free to email me more).”


https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/12/al-giordanos-enemies-list.html

I dream of Democratic candidates and supporters that don't keep enemy lists like Dick Nixon.

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Response to That Guy 888 (Reply #2)

Tue May 9, 2017, 05:40 PM

4. He is a political Organizer & Trainer

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #4)

Thu May 11, 2017, 06:03 AM

19. And.. an American journalist, political commentator, and former anti-nuclear and environmental..

Al Giordano is an American journalist, political commentator, and former anti-nuclear and environmental activist and organizer.

From 1989 to 1993, Giordano was a staff reporter on the Franklin County, MA, Valley Advocate, based in their Springfield, MA, office.[18] From 1993 to 1996, he worked as a political reporter on the Boston Phoenix[19] and The Nation.[20][21] In 1997, Giordano spent four months in Chiapas, Mexico, intending to join the Zapatista Army of National Liberation.[22][23] The rebels, however, insisted that Giordano could serve them best as a journalist.[22] As a result, Giordano started his own online periodical, The Narco News Bulletin,[22] which he launched in spring of 2000.[24] The Narco News Bulletin's coverage of the War on Drugs included a "string of scoops"[25] and led to the resignation of the Associated Press's Bolivia correspondent.[25] Giordano manages the site from Mexico, where he currently lives.[26]

Giordano has been credited by James Wolcott as the first journalist to predict that the presidential campaign of Barack Obama would be successful

Not sure whether he still resides in Mexico.


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Response to That Guy 888 (Reply #2)

Wed May 10, 2017, 04:29 PM

6. That "story" is garbage & lies


The anonymous "ThatGuy888" posted that smear job that, when published, nobody paid it much notice because it was clearly bullshit then as now. I am Al Giordano. I told the inept and knowingly dishonests "reporter" Eion Higgins that I had no "enemies list," that he was twisting my words out of context, back in December of last year when he contacted me for the story. He did so as part of the very same cohort that had engaged in systematic harassment of me and others, something his "article" simply continued.

In the piece - and later via his Twitter account - he took harassment by others against me (the setting up of fake porn accounts and such) and taunted me with them (this, as I was about to begin three months of radiation and chemotherapy treatments for cancer, something I informed him at the time, and that he hid from readers of his article) including with infantile name calling. All of that can be seen on his Twitter account in the days after the December 6 publication of the story. He also falsely claimed I had told him the story was fine. When I called him out on that he then claimed that my silence was his proof that I "said" it was fine. That's what a lowlife we have in this guy. So, hey, there are sleaze peddlers in the media! Nothing new, there. I wonder if "ThatGuy888" is in fact Mr. Higgins because nobody else cared to link to his piece anywhere when it came out. That's how embarrassingly non-journalistic it obviously was.

Here we are, six months later, I haven't engaged in any of the behaviors that he falsely accused I would engage in, and that is the proof that this smear piece was false. I think if "ThatGuy888" has an honest bone in his body he'll delete his fake news comment above, and if so, I'll be happy to do the same. Thank you very much. - Al

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Wed May 10, 2017, 05:14 PM

7. Welcome to DU, Al!

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Wed May 10, 2017, 07:10 PM

8. You don't need "first names, last names, addresses, jobs" to report twitter harassment

 




Your "rules" and other writing seems to violate the spirit of not re-fighting the 2016 primary.

In the piece - and later via his Twitter account...


Good luck with your cancer treatment, my mom beat it, with luck you will too. As far as the rest, show - don't tell. It is more effective.

. I wonder if "ThatGuy888" is in fact Mr. Higgins


Nope, wrong again. Feel free to put me on ignore, I don't think we have much to say to each other.

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Response to That Guy 888 (Reply #8)

Wed May 10, 2017, 07:30 PM

11. His is a plea to stick to issues rather than cheap attacks that hurt the party

Why do you find that so objectionable? Don't you want candidates to focus on what they can do to improve the country?

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Response to That Guy 888 (Reply #8)

Wed May 10, 2017, 10:45 PM

14. I'm curious...

Was there a particular 'safe word' that triggered a response?

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Wed May 10, 2017, 07:27 PM

10. Great to see you here!

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Wed May 10, 2017, 10:32 PM

12. Welcome Al

Love your Twitter feed!

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Wed May 10, 2017, 10:45 PM

13. Hello Al.

Welcome!

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Thu May 11, 2017, 12:27 AM

16. Welcome to DU, Al.

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Thu May 11, 2017, 12:37 AM

17. Aloha Al Giordano!

Nice to see you where I can reply directly to you. I'm not on twitter yet but I read your twitter feed all the time.. yours and Boney Hurdle's.

I want to say Mahalo to you for all you do for our Democracy. I read your blogs during the Obama years.. the links would show up on the Obama Diary... and now the Twitter era during Hillary's campaigns and beyond.

Sorry it has to be under such vile circumstances with some random attempt to smear you on DU.

My Very Best Wishes and Aloha for a return to Good Health.

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Response to Cha (Reply #17)

Thu May 11, 2017, 08:41 AM

21. Cha! I second all of the above! I am thrilled that AG is here!

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #21)

Thu May 11, 2017, 08:49 AM

22. I know you are! I'm so thrilled, too, Madam.. Mahalo for posting

.. his brilliant RULES for 2020.

Al G really did take care of that poster, though.. we all did.

I'm glad he saw your OP and the subsequent attempt to smear.. that was serendipitous!

I was kinda hoping this would be AlG.. but I knew the odds were slim.lol



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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Thu May 11, 2017, 08:38 AM

20. Welcome, AlGiordano! Glat you're here!


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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Thu May 11, 2017, 08:52 AM

23. Dear Al! Welcome2 DU. I went to your Organizing training in New Rochelle, NY & I remember you said:

 

To always leave a venue you use - better off than you found it!

This has meanings in all kinds of ways:



If you're going to seek the Democratic Party nomination, you have a *duty* to leave that nomination in better condition than you found it ...


Thank you for all your wisdom and real winning ways.

Thrilled that you are here.


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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Thu May 11, 2017, 08:53 AM

24. Welcome. Peace.

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Thu May 11, 2017, 10:25 AM

27. Holy shit, welcome Al!

 

Big fan, love your feed. Hope you stay a while.

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Response to AlGiordano (Reply #6)

Thu May 11, 2017, 06:50 PM

29. Welcome to DU

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Response to That Guy 888 (Reply #2)

Thu May 11, 2017, 12:22 AM

15. There are lot of assholes out there who want to ratfuck

our Democracy.

I am beyond grateful for Al Giordano who has been on the Front Lines Fighting for us for decades.


Al's Rules for 2020 Presidential Candidates
Al Giordano ✔ @AlGiordano

1. Stories like this on potential 2020 presidential candidates have started, so here are MY ground rules:

2.
Ronald Reagan used to cite his commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican." Democrats could learn from that...

3. My own policy is going to be an amended version: "I will only speak ill of 2020 Democrats who speak ill of Democratic values & leaders.

4. So if you're a candidate who is going to drag on President Obama instead of embracing his legacy, I'm going to hit your hard & often.

5. Likewise, if you're going to pander to the "Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate" ...., I hope you can take it as hard as you dish it

6. But if you're out there talking about issues & strategy & tactics & how to get change, I'm not going to speak ill of you. And I expect...

7. ...that my mentions on social media be free of such internecine food fights. I will block people for dragging on any potential nominee...

8. ...except to counter any candidate who himself is dragging on other potential nominees (I'm especially talking to you,...).

9. If you're going to seek the Democratic Party nomination, you have a *duty* to leave that nomination in better condition than you found it

10. If in your ambition & selfishness you weaken the value of that nomination (& eventual nominee), then fuck you, it's going to be war.

11. We're all paying the steep price of those kinds of antics today, and we'll be paying them at least through January 20, 2021.

12. The Democratic nomination comes through millions of people who are very diverse but embrace one label: Democrat. Grok that!

13
. We will defend closed primaries in states that choose them & will not broke any asshole trying to drag the legitimacy of their results.

14. We will sabotage any aspiring nominee who panders to non-Democrats by running against the DNC & lowering its value. We will destroy you.

15
. Yes, we all have things we want the Democratic Party to do better. And we fight for them the effective way, within the family, not media

16. We will neither tolerate attempts to abandon the pieces of our coalition in favor of a re-centering of white and/or male voters.

17. If you're one of those people using those bottom-feeding tactics, & you think we hit you hard in 2016, you ain't seen nothing yet.

18. This time we'll be more ready to isolate, contain & marginalize you for trying to weaken the value of our vehicle to win in November.

19.
If you want the nomination, you had better be adding to its value - no matter who the eventual nominee - every day of your campaign.

20
. If you try to win by parasite tactics that suck away its value, you forfeit any right to that nomination. And you will lose. Badly.

21
. Those are my rules from here to 2020: Thou shalt not speak ill of any Democratic presidential candidate who does not speak ill of others

22. But that rule has a rider attached: If you speak ill of the party or any of its potential nominees, the gloves come off. End memo

Your pathetic attempts to smear Al Giordano are NOT working.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 04:52 PM

3. If Republicans had ignored the 11th Commandment, they might not be stuck with Trump

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Tue May 9, 2017, 05:42 PM

5. No, Trump bullied all the other Republican Candidates and he made the GOP party a worse party

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #5)

Thu May 11, 2017, 08:57 AM

25. That's true and he's been getting away with it, so far.

Thanks to his brainless base.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed May 10, 2017, 07:26 PM

9. Bam



Well said, Al!

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Thu May 11, 2017, 12:44 AM

18. Mahalo for Al Giordano's Excellent Rules for 2020, Madam!

I especially like Rules #4 & #5!


Al's Rules for 2020 Presidential Candidates
Al Giordano ✔ @AlGiordano

1. Stories like this on potential 2020 presidential candidates have started, so here are MY ground rules:

2.
Ronald Reagan used to cite his commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican." Democrats could learn from that...

3. My own policy is going to be an amended version: "I will only speak ill of 2020 Democrats who speak ill of Democratic values & leaders.

4. So if you're a candidate who is going to drag on President Obama instead of embracing his legacy, I'm going to hit your hard & often.

5. Likewise, if you're going to pander to the "Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate" ...., I hope you can take it as hard as you dish it

6. But if you're out there talking about issues & strategy & tactics & how to get change, I'm not going to speak ill of you. And I expect...

7. ...that my mentions on social media be free of such internecine food fights. I will block people for dragging on any potential nominee...

8. ...except to counter any candidate who himself is dragging on other potential nominees (I'm especially talking to you,...).

9. If you're going to seek the Democratic Party nomination, you have a *duty* to leave that nomination in better condition than you found it

10. If in your ambition & selfishness you weaken the value of that nomination (& eventual nominee), then fuck you, it's going to be war.

11. We're all paying the steep price of those kinds of antics today, and we'll be paying them at least through January 20, 2021.

12. The Democratic nomination comes through millions of people who are very diverse but embrace one label: Democrat. Grok that!

13
. We will defend closed primaries in states that choose them & will not broke any asshole trying to drag the legitimacy of their results.

14. We will sabotage any aspiring nominee who panders to non-Democrats by running against the DNC & lowering its value. We will destroy you.

15
. Yes, we all have things we want the Democratic Party to do better. And we fight for them the effective way, within the family, not media

16. We will neither tolerate attempts to abandon the pieces of our coalition in favor of a re-centering of white and/or male voters.

17. If you're one of those people using those bottom-feeding tactics, & you think we hit you hard in 2016, you ain't seen nothing yet.

18. This time we'll be more ready to isolate, contain & marginalize you for trying to weaken the value of our vehicle to win in November.

19.
If you want the nomination, you had better be adding to its value - no matter who the eventual nominee - every day of your campaign.

20
. If you try to win by parasite tactics that suck away its value, you forfeit any right to that nomination. And you will lose. Badly.

21
. Those are my rules from here to 2020: Thou shalt not speak ill of any Democratic presidential candidate who does not speak ill of others

22. But that rule has a rider attached: If you speak ill of the party or any of its potential nominees, the gloves come off. End memo



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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Thu May 11, 2017, 10:20 AM

26. Welcome, Al, and thank you!

I don't use Twitter much, but I do follow you there. Great to see you here.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Thu May 11, 2017, 05:15 PM

28. Neither cats nor Democrats can or should be herded.

But agree entirely with slapping down hard any that attack the party, either leaping all-claws-out for the face or sneaking around to attack from behind pretend-idealistic phrases.

"It's about protecting democracy and the wellbeing of the people, Stupid."

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