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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
Wed May 10, 2017, 01:26 AM May 2017

Back when LBJ was President, he was mercilessly satirized by the Smothers Brothers.

LBJ wrote to them saying:

"It is part of the price of leadership of this great country to be the target of satirists. May we never grow to somber or self-important that we fail to appreciate the humor in our lives."

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Your assignment is to compare and contrast LBJ and 45. You will need to at least try and keep your essay under 25,000 words.

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Back when LBJ was President, he was mercilessly satirized by the Smothers Brothers. (Original Post) Stonepounder May 2017 OP
ok... dhill926 May 2017 #1
LBJ apparently believed that the war in Vietnam was justified. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #2
Trump is starting another surge in Afghanistan tirebiter May 2017 #3
Sad, loser, LBJ was weak and couldn't stand up for himself Hamlette May 2017 #4
LBJ was a fascinating study in contrasts. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #5
Glueing a ferret.... Stonepounder May 2017 #6
OMG! You win, hands down. brer cat May 2017 #8
I am so stealing that. n/t reflection May 2017 #11
LBJ may have MyOwnPeace May 2017 #7
Two crude and corrupt assholes. milestogo May 2017 #9
Say what you will of Vietnam but here is the record of LBJ and you have trumps. Jim Beard May 2017 #10
"Say what you will of Vietnam" former9thward May 2017 #12
Yeah, Vietnam tore this country apart just like all the programs passed during his administration. Jim Beard May 2017 #13
If you want to continue to try and deflect from Vietnam, go ahead. former9thward May 2017 #14
I won't play if you are going to ignore the MASSIVE accomplishments Jim Beard May 2017 #15
This. Iggo May 2017 #16

dhill926

(16,315 posts)
1. ok...
Wed May 10, 2017, 01:29 AM
May 2017

one was flawed, but loved his country and was a patriot. The other was flawed in more ways than 25,000 words can cover.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
2. LBJ apparently believed that the war in Vietnam was justified.
Wed May 10, 2017, 01:34 AM
May 2017

To that end he sent thousands of young American men to that country. To that end just over 58,000 soldiers died.

Donald Trump, who carefully avoided service in the military, seems to have no unwillingness to send young Americans to die in the Middle East. So far, he hasn't escalated our involvement in that part of the world, but his Presidency is still young. Give him time.

LBJ understood that satire was an essential part of the culture.

Donald Trump does not understand satire, nor any other form of humor. It's possible he will try to ban satire and humor, but he won't succeed. Humor and satire flourish underground. If you don't believe this, just do a bit of research into humor/satire and the former Soviet Union.


That's a bit under 25,000 words. Does it qualify? Do I win anything?

MyOwnPeace

(16,919 posts)
7. LBJ may have
Wed May 10, 2017, 06:33 AM
May 2017

written that, but the Feds put enough pressure on CBS that they dropped the Smothers Brothers show, partly because they had Pete Seeger on to sing "Waist Deep in The Big Muddy.

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Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
10. Say what you will of Vietnam but here is the record of LBJ and you have trumps.
Wed May 10, 2017, 08:15 AM
May 2017

Lyndon Johnson Legislative record as President

July 2, 1964
Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1964, outlawing discrimination based on race, color, national origin, religion or sex, in public accommodations such as hotels, theaters, parks, restaurants and other public places.
The act also authorizes the withdrawal of Federal funds from programs that practice discrimination. It discourages job discrimination through the creation of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
It also authorizes the attorney general to bring lawsuits against schools practicing segregation. It makes the Commission on Civil Rights a permanent organization.
 
August 20, 1964
          Johnson signs the Economic Opportunity Act in a step toward fighting the “War on Poverty.” August 31, 1964
         
          Johnson signs the Food Stamp Act, establishing the Federal food stamp program to help poor families improve their diet.
September 3, 1964
Johnson signs the Wilderness Act, which preserves 9,200,000 acres as a Federal wilderness system. March 15, 1965
 
Johnson delivers “The American Promise” speech (Voting Rights Message) before Congress, asking for a bill insuring the right of all Americans to vote. April 11, 1965
 
Johnson signs the Elementary and Secondary Education Act in front of Junction School, the school he attended in 1912. The act authorizes federal aid to school districts with low income families. May 18, 1965
 
Project Head Start is launched. Mrs. Johnson serves as honorary chair of the program designed to give underprivileged children a “head start” before beginning first grade. July 30, 1965
 
Johnson signs the Social Security Amendments of 1965 in a ceremony at the Harry S. Truman Library. The amendments establish Medicare and Medicaid, health insurance programs for the elderly and low income individuals and families.
 
August 6, 1965
Johnson signs the Voting Rights Act, which empowers the Federal government to oversee voter registration and elections, outlaws discriminatory literacy tests and expands voting rights for non-English speaking Americans. September 9, 1965
 
LBJ signs the act establishing the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and appoints Robert Weaver as the first secretary of HUD. Weaver is the first African American appointed to the Cabinet.
 
October 2, 1965
Johnson signs the Water Quality Act, preventing water pollution by requiring states to establish and enforce water quality standards for interstate waterways.
 
October 3, 1965
Johnson signs the Immigration Act in front of the Statue of Liberty. This act repeals the restrictive national origins quota system which originated in 1921.
 
October 22, 1965
Johnson signs the Highway Beautification Act. The act helps states control billboards and junkyards and encourages scenic and roadside development along major highways.
 
November 8, 1965
Johnson signs the Higher Education Act, which increases Federal money given to universities, creates scholarships and low-interest student loans and establishes a National Teacher Corps. July 4, 1966
 
Johnson signs the Freedom of Information Act.
 
October 16, 1966
Johnson signs the act establishing the Department of Transportation and appoints Alan Boyd as its first secretary. November 7, 1967
 
Johnson signs the Public Broadcasting Act establishing the nonprofit and nongovernmental Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting provides financial assistance for noncommercial educational television and radio broadcasting.
 
November 20, 1967
Johnson signs the act creating the National Product Safety Commission.
 
November 21, 1967
Johnson signs the Air Quality Act to strengthen federal powers to combat air pollution. April 11, 1968
 
Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which includes provisions for fair housing.
 
June 19, 1968 Johnson signs the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968, providing assistance to the states to help upgrade local and state law enforcement methods.
 
July 1, 1968
Johnson signs the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty with 58 other countries in efforts to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons.
 October 2, 1968
           Johnson signs the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act, establishing a national rivers system to protect and preserve many wild, scenic and recreational rivers.
          At the same time, President Johnson signs the National Trails System Act, creating a nationwide system of scenic and recreational trails.
October 22, 1968
Johnson signs the Gun Control Act of 1968, regulating the firearm industry and owners.

 


 

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
12. "Say what you will of Vietnam"
Wed May 10, 2017, 08:20 AM
May 2017

In other words 'Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?' Vietnam tore this country apart and it has never recovered.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
13. Yeah, Vietnam tore this country apart just like all the programs passed during his administration.
Wed May 10, 2017, 08:26 AM
May 2017

I mean his disastrous programs are still destroying America. We must get rid of all of them, right?

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
15. I won't play if you are going to ignore the MASSIVE accomplishments
Wed May 10, 2017, 08:44 AM
May 2017

of his administration and also ignore Nixons secret plan. Johnson did one hell of a lot of good.

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