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Your Idiot Boy in the White House accused his predecessor, Barack Obama, of committing a crime by tapping his wires an accusation leveled with not a single scintilla of evidence.
I await the day when the next Democratic president points out that a former president, Donald Trump (R Traitor), committed the crime of colluding with the Russians to undermine our election process and our democracy.
And there wont be a single thing you can say about it - because by then the truth will be out, the evidence will be known to all, and the fact that your party elected him, supported him, defended him, and turned a blind eye to his treachery will be an undeniable part of American political history.
My fellow Americans, lets remember that the Republicans once put a traitor in the Oval Office
Good luck living that one down.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)The American people have a VERY short attention span.
The day Obama was inaugurated, the right wingers were already blaming him for the freefalling economy. They ain't right.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)But some things are never forgotten, and I'd say having a proven traitor in the WH isn't something that will fade from memory.
Once Trump's crimes have been proven - and I have no doubt they eventually will be - it's going to be a BFD. "US President Colluded with Russians" is not a one-day news headline. And it's certainly not on a par with implying something negative about a former POTUS.
Besides, we can have so much fun reminding them - over and over!
Marthe48
(16,902 posts)200 hundred years ago and still the name most identified with treason. Although 'you donald trump' will never have the same ring as 'you Benedict Arnold'. trump can't do anything right.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Nixon will still evoke duplicitous crook.
Trump will become the tag for a craven, feckless tool willing to sell out his country for personal gain.
"What a Trump!" will ring through history as an insult as deadly as a comparison to Hitler regardless of the location employed.
Even Marine Le Pin bristled to being compared to Trump and the full effect hasn't manifested or taken hold yet.
Quisling is the closest current insult that comes to mind, but even that doesn't convey the scope of being a Trump.
Marthe48
(16,902 posts)n/t
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)1) Our fall campaign was a disaster(we almost blew a thirty-point lead in the polls and that shouldn't ever happen);
2) The '76 GOP convention successfully convinced much of the American electorate that Nixon never happened.
The short-term memory can be devastating in politics.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)We will remember this.
VigilantG
(374 posts)How do you like THAT for reality TV, Drumpf?!?!
JPPaverage
(508 posts)If trump is proven to be a traitor, people will not forget easily.
mgardener
(1,812 posts)I think it was a big mistake by the Democrats not to hold the Republicans accountable for Nixon.
We rushed to 'heal the wounds' caused by him.
WE can never forget this.
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)I was elected before I was born. But every Republican president since has been elected with some sort of dirty cloud or worse over them in my opinion:
Nixon - colluding with the North Vietnamese, Watergate
Reagan - US Embassy hostages deal with Iran (Carter got knee capped)
Bush I - Willie Horton ad
Bush II - Chards/Supreme Court, Kerry Swiftboated with bogus ad
Trump - Russia, voting irregularities, FBI Clinton email handling
I do not think the election legacies of Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton or Obama come close to the above in terms of dirty stuff going on.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)The D's never really want to beat their opposition.
Always want to be the Washington Generals.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)and can fuck us over for decades on the bench, even a century with precedents.
Even if this eventually plays out our way, he is wrecking people's lives for generations. So, to the extent the Repubs do the usual: delay as long as possible, obstruct thing, they know exactly what they are doing...all part of the greater plan.
We need to find ways to expedite his demise. More pressure. More demonstrations. Push them out w Dems of every shade and.stripe of blue. I think this is no time to be purist! We are in a state of emergency. We need to take a cue from the French, the custom is for all parties, even if they hate something about the other, to unite together against a RW candidate, to block the RW in the final vote. After the election, they can go back to fighting or whatever. This is one reason we have DT and they don't have Marine.
The Wizard
(12,536 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)We had his plan drawn out for us. He is following it. Wasn't there another guy who did that in history?
flotsam
(3,268 posts)spanone
(135,792 posts)iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)Gothmog
(144,920 posts)The idiot trump supporters are very capable of ignoring facts and reality. These supporters will ignore these facts and still support their idiot hero.
lastlib
(23,152 posts)Becuz Benghazi! Lib'rul Soshulizm! Obama Muslim!
The Deplorables Just. Don't. Do. Facts. Or Truth, if it doesn't fit their bubble-view.
We gotta make this "TraitorTrump" charge stick to him and every repuglikan like grape juice on an Easter dress. Maybe eventually enough of them will come around to see what a POS he is and what a cancer his brand of fascism is on our nation.
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)We live in kleptocracy, get used to it.
I will reconsider if you PM me your copyright.
lastlib
(23,152 posts)I think I actually got it from a comedian many years ago, can't even recall which one. So I guess it's public domain.....
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)a) they can be the boss in their lives, without being challenged
or
b) they can be bossed in their lives, and avoid thinking for themselves
sheshe2
(83,654 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Our attention span isn't that short.
Marthe48
(16,902 posts)just last year. Hilarious. The whole thing is on You Tube
The swearing out ceremony: "Richard Nixon, you son-of-a-bitct! You lied your ass off! Now f*** off!
Can't wait for trump to get sworn out.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)and twice at night!
hopefully you have some pull!
lastlib
(23,152 posts)I had an old cassette tape of that, replayed it until I wore it out and the machine ate it. It was SO FUNNY hearing the "voice" of REV. Billy Graham(!) doing that swearing-out!! "God DAMN YOU, RICHARD NIXON!.....Get the HELL out of here!"
The other "ROFLMAO" moment is the "Sesame Street" exchange between "Ervin" and "Big Dick":
Ervin: "Big Dick, you are full of SHIT!"
voice-over: "Shit. SHIT. Big Dick--is FULL--of SHIT!!"
I hope someone does something like it for tinyhands!
Marthe48
(16,902 posts)I don't know how intimate the relationship was. I slept with him a couple of times. lol
We had it on 8 track, still have it, but no player. When we found it on you tube,we listened and laughed Cheers!
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)You wouldn't think the American people would ever vote another Republican into the office of President.
Yet here we are. Again.
The Wielding Truth
(11,411 posts)Then it will be more difficult for FOX "NEWS" to pollute the minds of our more gullible citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine
The Fairness Doctrine was a policy of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, that required the holders of broadcast licenses both to present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was in the Commission's view honest, equitable, and balanced.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/uncategorized/are-we-better-off-without-the-fairness-doctrine/
Recently on our program, environmental activist Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. had this to say about the Fairness Doctrine:
The devolution of the American press began in 1986 when Ronald Reagan abolished the Fairness Doctrine.
We had a law in this country that we passed in 1928 that said that the air waves belong to the public. The broadcasters can be licensed to use them, but only if they use them to promote the public interest, to inform the public and advance democracy. Thats why we have the 6 oclock news. They didnt want it. The broadcasters didnt want that because the news departments were chronic money losers.
But they were forced to put on the news at 6:00 and even today you hear news on the music radio stations and thats an artifact of the Fairness Doctrine. They said, if youre using the broadcast air waves, you have to do that
They no longer have an obligation to serve the public interest. Their only obligation is to their shareholders. They serve that obligation not by informing us, telling us the things we need to understand to make rational decisions in a democracy, but rather by entertaining us...
We know were the best entertained, the least informed, people on the face of the world. They got rid of their investigative reporters. 85 percent of them lost their jobs in the last 15 years.
They got rid of their foreign news bureaus so the Bush and Cheney administration can say to the American people, Oh, were gonna go into this 800-year-old fist fight in Mesopotamia and theyre gonna meet us with rose petals in the streets and the Americans believe them.
The Canadians didnt believe them because the Canadians still have a Fairness Doctrine
England has the same kind of rules and in Europe, but in our country, we lost those rules and, as a result, we know a lot about Britney Spears gradual emotional decline and we know a lot about Charlie Sheen, but we dont know much about global warming or the fact that the Appalachian Mountains essentially no longer exist.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)I totally agree with American attention span,but,you just have to pick yourself up and keep on keeping on when it comes to Campaigns. I am ready for next year,going to love kicking another Republican Senator out of his so called rightful Office. Bye Bye Hellar.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)and the Saturday Night Massacre, and all the rest of it.
There are some things you don't forget. Where you were when Kennedy what shot and when 9/11 happened. When the president of the United States was publicly called out as a traitor to the country.
No, they can't live that one down.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,443 posts)If his goal was to make it into the history books he will have spectacularly succeeded as future generations will study the sordid tale of our Orange quisling with horror and his name will be used as an eponym for traitor.
brer cat
(24,523 posts)rpannier
(24,328 posts)There was an episode of 'Unhappily Ever After' where the parents say something about how 'if the media reports it, it must be true.'
The daughter says, "Does the name Richard Jewell ring a bell?"
One parent, "Wasn't he the guy that bombed the Olympics?"
Daughter, "No. No he wasn't. He wasn't the guy."
Parent, "That's not how I remember it."
The Republikkans are the parent. They'll remember it some other way and it'll be the biggest evil in US history
unc70
(6,109 posts)orangecrush
(19,411 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,523 posts)rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)bdamomma
(63,799 posts)yankeepants
(1,979 posts)William769
(55,144 posts)That was after they failed withe a crook in the Oval Office.
GeoWilliam750
(2,521 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Alas, I have high profile Republican congress critters in Texas: Cornyn, Cruz, and Hensarling (TX-05)
I added the reminder that in law, silence means consent. Hope fellow DUers with deplorable congress critters will do the same
BSdetect
(8,995 posts)So how bad were the others?
ffr
(22,665 posts)Republicans are the epitome of evil.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)quickly forget. It is going to play a huge part in 2018.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,371 posts)to weave into whatever they are talking about the fact that Republicans colluded with the Russians to attack democracy - PERIOD. Not Trump or Flynn - REPUBLICANS.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)I've been calling him TRAITOR every since he urged the Russian hackers to go after Hillary during the elction. He should be hung from the rafters at Mar-A-Lago.
VigilantG
(374 posts)And the Repugs unscrupulous greediness needs to be key!
Gosh, we need election reform NOW!
Nixon-Watergate is nothing compared to what has and IS still happening to US!
The Repugs have so much dirty laundry in their emails and more! When and if those are ever released by WikiLeaks or some other group, the DNC emails will look like peanuts!
Corruption, racism, bigotry, xenophobia, sex, evangelical hypocrisy are so entrenched in their minds, that you know their personal communications are rotten to the core!
The Repugs that are willing to speak out against Drumpf are most likely the ones without much to hide.
McConnell, Ryan, Walker, Giuliani, Chaffetz, Gordy, Cruz, Sessions and others are willing participants! Let them fry!
I'm just wondering what the trigger it will be for Russia to let the cat out of the bag!
When is their pay off? Aside from creating the chaos already?
The Wizard
(12,536 posts)Republicans left. For most it's their religion or cult. That and they have no shame.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)But it's also true that rationally-minded or not, they're still going to have to face the music when Trump & Co go down.
I've no doubt there are already discussions in progress about how to minimize the damage to the party when their Idiot Boy's crimes are proven.