More chaotic governance from Trump admin - possible electronic ban on flights from EU to US

[suffragette]

There are now multiple reports that such a ban is imminent. Delta even put up a sign stating it was in effect as of May 12th. A photo of the sign was posted on Flyertalk forums, leading to a large thread there and to discussion elsewhere on the Internet. Delta has now said the sign was in error.

Meanwhile, meetings have been taking place in U.S. and one has been set with EU to discuss this and EU is noting the danger of multiple devices, many of which would likely not be turned off appropriately, in cargo hold.


http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/11/news/laptop-ban-europe-trump/
Europe is bracing for a laptop ban on flights to America

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-airlines-electronics-ban-idUSKBN1862QS
U.S. likely to expand airline laptop ban to Europe: government officials

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/checkpoints-borders-policy-debate/1841420-possible-electronic-devices-ban-flights-europe-us-23.html




http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/12/electronics-ban-delta-sign/

Update: Delta has issued the following statement regarding the sign: “This sign was posted in CVG in error. It does not reflect any new news or guidance from DHS. Should be considered erroneous.” Hmmmm….

We’ve been hearing rumors that an electronics ban will be announced for flights from Europe to the US at some point this week. To my surprise this still hasn’t happened, and actually the Department of Homeland Security has been claiming that nothing has been decided for sure.

#SecretaryKelly continues 2 engage w/stakeholders about threats to aviation – this week w/ Congress, US airline reps and European officials.

— David Lapan (@SpoxDHS) May 12, 2017

Many reputable sources have suggested otherwise, and that a decision has in fact been made but just hasn’t been communicated publicly yet. Interestingly FlyerTalk member SFO 1K posted a picture of a sign made by Delta at Cincinnati Airport, which suggests that an electronics ban is in place effective immediately for international flights from Europe to the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-airline-electronics-ban-idUSKBN1881L0?il=0
Fri May 12, 2017 | 1:59pm EDT

U.S. and European officials will discuss airline security issues at a meeting in Brussels next week, including possibly expanding the number of airports that ban passengers from carrying electronic devices bigger than cellphones aboard flights, a European Commission spokeswoman said on Friday.
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European regulators have warned that placing hundreds of devices in the hold on long-haul flights could also compromise safety by increasing the risk of fire from poorly deactivated lithium-ion batteries.

Kelly briefed members of Congress Thursday and held a meeting with high-level executives of Delta Air Lines (DAL.N), United Airlines (UAL.N), American Airlines Group Inc (AAL.O) and Airlines For America, a trade group. A congressional official said Homeland Security was likely to expand the ban soon, but did not say when or to what airports.

The airlines declined to comment, but an airline official said government officials suggested an expansion of the ban was expected soon but it wasn't certain when.

[bathroommonkey76]

1. The airlines won't have to worry about videos of people being dragged off planes now.

I'd say they are pushing for similar bans here in the US.

[suffragette]

2. I'd agree with you. And I would add it is more about reducing movement and isolating us then

About actual security.

[Blues Heron]

3. Does this include camera equipment too? nt

[suffragette]

4. No one actually knows yet. There are many posts on that Flyertalk thread anticipating that and

Some of those who are traveling soon are posting about fears of theft, what type of cases might be needed to protect equipment that's checked and even flying back to Canada or Mexico then switching to train or other means to return.

[Blues Heron]

5. Message deleted by DU the Administrators

[suffragette]

6. Yeah, theft is a major problem. Let's hope the European officials can quash this.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/13/us/airport-luggage-theft/

Hidden cameras reveal airport workers stealing from luggage