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riversedge

(70,084 posts)
Sat May 13, 2017, 10:39 PM May 2017

White House aides bewildered and alarmed: Trump seems lost in some kind of paranoid delusion

I am hoping for a White House emplosion.





White House aides ‘bewildered and alarmed’: Trump seems lost in ‘some kind of paranoid delusion’


https://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/white-house-aides-bewildered-and-alarmed-trump-seems-lost-in-some-kind-of-paranoid-delusion/

David Ferguson
13 May 2017 at 22:30 ET

...............The dysfunctional press shop is catching the blame for the fact that Democratic leader and fierce Trump critic Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) organized a press conference, handed out talking points and conducted a unified media assault on the Comey firing while the White House press shop was in complete disarray.
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“They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off,” said a White House official who asked not to be named. “There was no leadership, no ‘get your troops in a room, and issue orders and execute.’”

“Some of Trump’s allies said they are worried that the president views the Comey episode entirely as a public-relations crisis — a branding problem — and has not been judicious about protecting himself from legal exposure as the FBI continues to investigate possible links between his campaign and Russia,” Rucker wrote.

“Trump is so unsophisticated about government, and he lacks even basic knowledge about how the government functions, of what the unwritten but very important rules and traditions are. His attitude toward all those things is they don’t matter: ‘I’m going to drain the swamp!'” said on Republican official.

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White House aides bewildered and alarmed: Trump seems lost in some kind of paranoid delusion (Original Post) riversedge May 2017 OP
So why don't they fucking quit and get a real job?? pangaia May 2017 #1
Over 30 years ago, I made a conscious decision to become a public servant. PatrickforO May 2017 #11
Great post and absolutely agree these are great jobs. But Hortensis May 2017 #13
+1000 pangaia May 2017 #16
I Was Just about to Say That Leith May 2017 #22
Thing is, I agree with you 100%. pangaia May 2017 #15
Well, yes, I do concede that point. PatrickforO May 2017 #18
Whew! Glad we're ok. pangaia May 2017 #20
Those aren't the staff we're talking about. yardwork May 2017 #17
He actually has done a good job of wrecking a functioning government . More disarray every day lunasun May 2017 #2
It's a cult cilla4progress May 2017 #3
Thank you. I hadn't thought of it quite that way. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #4
you are spot on. It's mush worse than Scientology :( luvMIdog May 2017 #8
Paranoia and delusions from Alzheimer's is my bet: read these links Liberty Belle May 2017 #5
Cluster B personality disorders also often include paranoid traits. Hortensis May 2017 #14
He will never quit. Republicans will keep him in the presidents spot even if he goes all out hermit Sunlei May 2017 #6
They are just now noticing? SHRED May 2017 #7
No kidding! GoCubsGo May 2017 #21
Paranoia - Trump is f**king obessed with surveillance womanofthehills May 2017 #9
Gawd Hekate May 2017 #10
Not covering himself means exposing others to legal danger. Hortensis May 2017 #12
No President should be allowed to nominate a new FBI director during the last week of Presidency. L. Coyote May 2017 #19

PatrickforO

(14,558 posts)
11. Over 30 years ago, I made a conscious decision to become a public servant.
Sun May 14, 2017, 02:34 AM
May 2017

I did this because my biggest value is that I must be helping somehow to make the world a better place to live because I have lived.

I am drop-dead serious about this, and since joining a local government over 29 years ago, I have not regretted my decision. At that time, I cared more about making a difference than making a profit. I still do.

So you ask, why don't they get a 'real job?'

My answer: They HAVE real jobs - they are staff in the seat of the executive branch of government in the most powerful nation this earth has ever seen. Each day, they come to work and give of themselves, their concern, their diligence, their labor - why? to make the White House perfect for its inhabitants, so the president can focus all of his or her being on doing that massive job, and so the president's spouse and children are comfortable and safe.

Now, the American people have fallen for a cheap conman. A man not qualified to be president of this nation by any stretch of the imagination, either by knowledge, skill and intelligence or by temperament. In fact, Donald Trump is, I fear, dangerously, whimsically insane.

So, you have spent many years, given your career to your country, and see it falling apart around your ankles.

What would you do? Quit and 'get another fucking job,' or would you stick it out and try to hold things together?

Just asking. Because I would choose the latter as well. BECAUSE IT IS WORTH HOLDING TOGETHER. Trump himself is ephemeral - any president is. Eight years and then they must move on whether they want to or not. But the institution, the 'noble experiment' - that goes on.

That is why.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Great post and absolutely agree these are great jobs. But
Sun May 14, 2017, 05:18 AM
May 2017

most or all of these people being discussed are political appointees who came in with Trump. For many it was a leap far above their previous pay grade as they filled vacuums created by refusal of wiser, and in some cases more honorable, people to associate themselves with this administration.

A clueless and amoral president who to a very real degree has surrounded himself with people who mirror those faults.

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Leith

(7,808 posts)
22. I Was Just about to Say That
Sun May 14, 2017, 05:01 PM
May 2017

But you did it better.

I have worked as a contractor in 2 state governments and as an employee in various private industries.

Give me government workers any day of the week. The professionalism, dedication, the office culture, and degree of hard work is far and above what I experienced at every corporation I worked for.

But I hesitate to extend that opinion to the current WH staff. They are building their resumes until they can land better paying gigs lobbying, working for reichwing propaganda outlets & thinktanks, or whatever will pay them the big Koch bucks. They would stab their own grandmothers to curry the boss's favor.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. Thing is, I agree with you 100%.
Sun May 14, 2017, 09:37 AM
May 2017

And the work you describe IS a real job. AND a public SERVICE.
And some/many/most DO the work As public servants.

But, some/many/most/a few?? are NOT servants but just use the word.

So, who are these 'White House officials," and "aides to trump"who took a job working for this shit human con-man?

These are not 'public servants and I do not believe they are there to 'make the world a better place,' as I absolutely believe you and many others were and are.

If they are there at the hire of this administration, then in my opinion your 4th paragraph does not apply to them.


Just to make clear my previous post.




pangaia

(24,324 posts)
20. Whew! Glad we're ok.
Sun May 14, 2017, 04:41 PM
May 2017

Sometimes my posts are a bit... um.... brief.. and thusly perhaps unclear...

Our rep in the NY 27th, Chris Collins, certainly is not a servant, as were you.


PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
4. Thank you. I hadn't thought of it quite that way.
Sun May 14, 2017, 12:25 AM
May 2017

I have just read The Road to Jonestown by Jeff Guinn which is totally amazing. I'm old enough to remember the mass suicide there, but this book is eye opening.

First off, Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple did a lot of genuine good. But over time, Jones stopped hearing any criticism. After a while there was no one around him to offer a different take on things, no one to tell him he might be wrong. There's a specific passage about halfway through that talks about that, and I've returned the book to the library so I'm sorry that I can't quote it directly.

But when I read that passage what I was struck by was the parallel to Donald Trump. He's surrounded by people who praise him, who tell him that yes, he's the smartest guy out there and of course he's right about everything. No one tells him "No". No one tells him there might be other ways to view things. No one ever suggests he's wrong.

He's lived in that bubble for a very long time. His entire adult life, and possibly even before.

Back to the cult analogy. You are right. From Wikipedia "The term cult usually refers to a social group defined by its religious, spiritual, or philosophical beliefs, or its common interest in a particular personality, object or goal."

And there's this: "a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing."

Both of those fit perfectly.

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
5. Paranoia and delusions from Alzheimer's is my bet: read these links
Sun May 14, 2017, 12:48 AM
May 2017
http://www.alzfdn.org/EducationandCare/paranoia.html
http://www.alz.org/care/alzheimers-dementia-suspicion-delusions.asp

His father had Alzheimer's and Trump has been showing obvious signs of it for a while now: http://www.theimproper.com/142684/donald-trumps-family-history-alzheimers-campaign-issue/

I don't know why the mainstream media has ignored this problem for so long. Having had relatives with Alzheimer's the symptoms are beyond obvious to me.

It's also true that people with difficult personalities tend to be more difficult when they develop Alzheimer's -- combative, accusatory, irrational, paranoid, delusional and blaming everyone around them. Sound familiar?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Cluster B personality disorders also often include paranoid traits.
Sun May 14, 2017, 05:24 AM
May 2017

Literally tends of thousands of mental health professionals believe Rump has had a serious mental disorder for decades. It didn't disappear at some point.

Early signs of dementia are a real possibility, but they would be on top of that, and dementia is also speculative in a way the well-documented symptoms he's displayed for decades are not.

The political difference might be that pubs chose to elect Rump with an obvious personality disorder. Many thought they wanted these symptoms in their president and are determinedly remaining loyal even as his disorder plays out in the White House.

Whereas dementia could be cast as something new, something they did not choose for. It would be an excuse to remove him from office that they would badly need. They could assure themselves that they didn't make a mistake, but rather that he tragically declined in ability after election.

Latest poll aggregation show 84% approval rating by pubs. They only finally withdrew their loyalty to W in the 8th of 8 increasingly disastrous years.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. He will never quit. Republicans will keep him in the presidents spot even if he goes all out hermit
Sun May 14, 2017, 01:14 AM
May 2017

All out crazy hermit and only is seen or heard through fox Republican TV.

GoCubsGo

(32,074 posts)
21. No kidding!
Sun May 14, 2017, 04:49 PM
May 2017

Anyone who has paid attention to this asshole for the past 30 years knows he's paranoid and deluded, among many other things. Like Maya Angelou said, when people show you who they are, believe them the first time. Did these dolts actually believe that he'd change once he became President?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Not covering himself means exposing others to legal danger.
Sun May 14, 2017, 05:09 AM
May 2017

So a very clueless, isolated president is now surrounded by people who are afraid they could end up completely broke and in debt from legal bills, their careers ruined, and even go to prison.

Okay. They took jobs many others refused because, in additional to compelling moral and ethical issues, this was believed to be inevitable. So be it. These careers should be ruined.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. No President should be allowed to nominate a new FBI director during the last week of Presidency.
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:45 PM
May 2017

Yeah, that one's for you Turtle Dude.

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