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blue-wave

(4,347 posts)
Sat May 13, 2017, 11:39 PM May 2017

The labels said organic. But these massive imports of corn and soybeans werent.

A shipment of 36 million pounds of soybeans sailed late last year from Ukraine to Turkey to California. Along the way, it underwent a remarkable transformation.

The cargo began as ordinary soybeans, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post. Like ordinary soybeans, they were fumigated with a pesticide. They were priced like ordinary soybeans, too.

But by the time the 600-foot cargo ship carrying them to Stockton, Calif., arrived in December, the soybeans had been labeled “organic,” according to receipts, invoices and other shipping records. That switch — the addition of the “USDA Organic” designation — boosted their value by approximately $4 million, creating a windfall for at least one company in the supply chain.


Read More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/the-labels-said-organic-but-these-massive-imports-of-corn-and-soybeans-werent/2017/05/12/6d165984-2b76-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop&utm_term=.67e1b963c302



We really never know what were eating, do we? Unless we grow it ourselves.

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The labels said organic. But these massive imports of corn and soybeans werent. (Original Post) blue-wave May 2017 OP
Pretty much and that's the only thing I dislike about the desert Warpy May 2017 #1
Have you looked at aquaponics? Vilis Veritas May 2017 #2
Water level out here in a swimming pool or uncovered hot tub Warpy May 2017 #3
Yes, you need a greenhouse most likely. Vilis Veritas May 2017 #5
A Big Fucking Deal. nt greyl May 2017 #4

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
1. Pretty much and that's the only thing I dislike about the desert
Sat May 13, 2017, 11:45 PM
May 2017

The cost of water makes a backyard veg garden prohibitively expensive.

As for the soybeans, if they hadn't fumigated them, they'd have arrived 50% rat turds and full of insects.

If you're going to live in a country where corn and soy are fed to animals who aren't supposed to be eating them instead of to people who are, you've got to expect chemicals from overseas.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
3. Water level out here in a swimming pool or uncovered hot tub
Sun May 14, 2017, 01:49 AM
May 2017

goes down two inches a day, minimum. That's why there are so few of those out here. What works in normal climates is not going to work in extreme aridity.

I've seen the systems up and running back in Mass. and they might work out here in a greenhouse but not in a back yard.

Best thing out here is a subsurface drip irrigation system with a lot of mulch. Even those suck a lot of water.

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