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PsychoBabble

(837 posts)
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:41 PM May 2017

Richard Spencer is a troll and icon for white supremacists. He was also my high-school classmate

Just FYI if you like to round out your thinking with diverse material - A long, complex, humanizing, unflinching, and unflattering (but interesting) article about white supremacist Richard Spencer ... by his former classmate:

Final paragraphs:

As one who knew Spencer when we were both hapless, overprivileged adolescents, sharing a desire to transcend our origins, what interests me the most about him is his self-reinvention, the intellectual costume changes (foppish actor, grad-school blowhard, opera-director manqué, and now architect of a white utopian dream of world-historical consequence) spanning three decades. After all, it is said that one of the great advantages of America is that its daughters and sons can escape the strictures of the world in which they were raised, be unlike their forefathers. Spencer has certainly done that.

Much about his most recent and significant transformation reminds me of a 1957 Norman Mailer essay, “The White Negro,” that tried to explain trends in white culture during an age that was, in some ways, as disorienting as our own. Living in the shadow of nuclear annihilation, and having freshly returned from war, whites found their own culture anemic and soporific. They craved danger—and they found it by imitating blacks, who knew danger without craving it, and whose culture, language, and daily life were smelling salts for their own. Mailer described the sensation: “No Negro can saunter down a street with any real certainty that violence will not visit him on his walk … [He knows] in the cells of his existence that life [is] war, nothing but war.” Spencer, too, is a pale imitator. He wanted danger, or thought he did, and now he has it.

Spencer must have known that the life he was choosing would get him hated and taunted. But he seemed at most half-aware that it would get him slugged in the face, and completely unaware that it might get him killed. Fifty years ago, George Lincoln Rockwell, the urbane leader of the American Nazi Party, was shot dead in the parking lot of a laundromat, just seven miles from where Spencer lives now. There must be an intellectual thrill in knowing that people might care enough to want to kill you. Spencer seemed unsure whether the thrill would remain worth the risk.

It is difficult to conceive of a path to repentance for Spencer. There is enough in his philosophy that is challenging to the modern American condition, and enough about the modern American condition that is challenging to itself, that he isn’t likely to be convinced of his error. His revolutionary movement is unlikely to succeed. But it is, I fear, authentic and durable. The shame of its indecency is felt only by those who share the country with Spencer, not by the man himself.


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/his-kampf/524505/
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Richard Spencer is a troll and icon for white supremacists. He was also my high-school classmate (Original Post) PsychoBabble May 2017 OP
Bookmarked - thanks for posting, PBabble - always interested to know how a person Leghorn21 May 2017 #1
Short version, he discovered Nietzsche at around the same age Paul Ryan discovered Ayn Rand (n/t) Spider Jerusalem May 2017 #2
St. Marks School of Texas-Class of 1977 Stallion May 2017 #3

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
1. Bookmarked - thanks for posting, PBabble - always interested to know how a person
Sun May 14, 2017, 04:26 PM
May 2017

becomes who they are - (like, why would P. Ryan be decrying healthcare during a college kegger, ffs? - doubt I'll ever grok that SOB's mindset, eh) - anyway, many thanks!

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
3. St. Marks School of Texas-Class of 1977
Sun May 14, 2017, 04:48 PM
May 2017

although the school is funded by some of the richest Republican bank-rolls I got an outstanding liberal arts education. Great teachers with little to no political indoctrination. A school like St. Marks is much more likely to produce a writer like Newsweek's Kurt Eichenwald than an alt-right leader like Richard Spencer

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